Changes to Worldperks program 2005
Nov 16, 2004 | 8:59 pm
#46
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Originally Posted by jiburi
We've all been focusing on the "2005 change" page, the mileage accrual page has only slight changed, with the EQS policy change. http://www.nwa.com/freqfly/earn/airfl.shtml
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I think this supports my idea that there is no change planned on EQM for January 1, 2005.
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I think this supports my idea that there is no change planned on EQM for January 1, 2005.
Good find! ^
Nov 16, 2004 | 9:03 pm
#47
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Originally Posted by HeelLaw
keithguy,
Has that not always been the case (additional miles once you get to HNL)? If not, I've been ripped off.
Has that not always been the case (additional miles once you get to HNL)? If not, I've been ripped off.
A few months ago, I booked ...SEA-NW-HNL-HA-KOA-HA-HNL-CO-LAX... for the 35K, even with a stopover in HNL (final destination was KOA).
Nov 16, 2004 | 9:15 pm
#48
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doh. I thought that's how it should have worked, but the phone agents had me convinced that it was supposed to be two awards. Oh well.
Nov 16, 2004 | 9:28 pm
#49
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Originally Posted by Jaffar
Can someone please explain this to me? 
Why is NW listing the First Class awards as:
* Valid on Continental Business First or Korean Air First Class
only??
What happened to all the other skyteam partners?
Why is NW listing the First Class awards as:
* Valid on Continental Business First or Korean Air First Class
only??
What happened to all the other skyteam partners?
Nov 16, 2004 | 10:30 pm
#50
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Burn them while they're hot!
Well this change has inspired me to start using the meager amount of miles in my account. I just booked a South American trip for the old 35k mile award, and will look to burn another 35k trip by the end of the week. I'll earn another 35k by the end of the year and hope to spend that as well! 
Nov 16, 2004 | 11:02 pm
#51
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After several years of buying whatever's cheapest to Europe and just barely making Silver each year on NW, I was finally induced to spend most of my money at NW after flying WBC on an award ticket this year. I will even make Gold this year and was thinking of going for Plat because of the lounge access.
But now, now they just lost me, I think. I'm just not willing to use 100,000 miles for WBC when I can fly twice to Europe for that amount. Coupled with the hoops I have to go through to get any award seat to Europe, this devaluation of miles discourages me from spending more to fly NW. I'll go back to whatever's cheapest and try to make Silver each year if I come close, but I'm not going to worry about it. I'm pretty sick of Spinzels anyway.
But now, now they just lost me, I think. I'm just not willing to use 100,000 miles for WBC when I can fly twice to Europe for that amount. Coupled with the hoops I have to go through to get any award seat to Europe, this devaluation of miles discourages me from spending more to fly NW. I'll go back to whatever's cheapest and try to make Silver each year if I come close, but I'm not going to worry about it. I'm pretty sick of Spinzels anyway.
Nov 17, 2004 | 6:03 am
#52
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I wish the segment rule would apply retroactively for this year. It would save me from maybe taking a mileage run, though frankly I'm a bit confused as to how to get a good routing.
As for the increased mileage awards, I'm very disappointed. There's no way around how unfortunate this is. Especially Australia. We don't have direct service like *A or OneWorld so I have suffered through a routing like MSN-MSP-EWR-DXB-KUL-MEL just to get there, and now they go and raise the miles required to do so and that's higher than what the competiting alliances offer and they have MUCH better and more direct routings.
As for the increased mileage awards, I'm very disappointed. There's no way around how unfortunate this is. Especially Australia. We don't have direct service like *A or OneWorld so I have suffered through a routing like MSN-MSP-EWR-DXB-KUL-MEL just to get there, and now they go and raise the miles required to do so and that's higher than what the competiting alliances offer and they have MUCH better and more direct routings.
Nov 17, 2004 | 8:44 am
#53
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Originally Posted by bergamini
I wish the segment rule would apply retroactively for this year. It would save me from maybe taking a mileage run, though frankly I'm a bit confused as to how to get a good routing.
As for the increased mileage awards, I'm very disappointed. There's no way around how unfortunate this is. Especially Australia. We don't have direct service like *A or OneWorld so I have suffered through a routing like MSN-MSP-EWR-DXB-KUL-MEL just to get there, and now they go and raise the miles required to do so and that's higher than what the competiting alliances offer and they have MUCH better and more direct routings.
As for the increased mileage awards, I'm very disappointed. There's no way around how unfortunate this is. Especially Australia. We don't have direct service like *A or OneWorld so I have suffered through a routing like MSN-MSP-EWR-DXB-KUL-MEL just to get there, and now they go and raise the miles required to do so and that's higher than what the competiting alliances offer and they have MUCH better and more direct routings.
Nov 17, 2004 | 8:48 am
#54
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Originally Posted by sllevin
Holy cow!
Did I just see WBC to Europe go to 100,000 miles, and Asia to 120,000?
This explain's CO's annoucement -- they had actually let the cat out of the bag.
Coupled with terrible standard award availability, this is an ugly devaluation of miles.
Well, at least I have 24 hours to reconsider the RTW I just called on. I've really got to look at alternatives.
Steve
Did I just see WBC to Europe go to 100,000 miles, and Asia to 120,000?
This explain's CO's annoucement -- they had actually let the cat out of the bag.
Coupled with terrible standard award availability, this is an ugly devaluation of miles.
Well, at least I have 24 hours to reconsider the RTW I just called on. I've really got to look at alternatives.
Steve
Nov 17, 2004 | 9:17 am
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A question
Could anyone answer the question:
Will the mileage increase for WBC award take effect for trips BOOKED after March 1, 2005?
In the other words, if I BOOK these trips BY March 1, 2005 for future travel, does the mileage required stay same as current level?
Will the mileage increase for WBC award take effect for trips BOOKED after March 1, 2005?
In the other words, if I BOOK these trips BY March 1, 2005 for future travel, does the mileage required stay same as current level?
Nov 17, 2004 | 9:30 am
#56
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Originally Posted by BOS-NWA
Could anyone answer the question:
Will the mileage increase for WBC award take effect for trips BOOKED after March 1, 2005?
In the other words, if I BOOK these trips BY March 1, 2005 for future travel, does the mileage required stay same as current level?
Will the mileage increase for WBC award take effect for trips BOOKED after March 1, 2005?
In the other words, if I BOOK these trips BY March 1, 2005 for future travel, does the mileage required stay same as current level?
So, if you book a WBC award ticket to Asia on February 28, 2005 for travel on August 1, 2005, your mileage required is 90k.
Nov 17, 2004 | 9:35 am
#57
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Originally Posted by Infinity
The mileage increase will take effect on March 1, 2005 itself.
So, if you book a WBC award ticket to Asia on February 28, 2005 for travel on August 1, 2005, your mileage required is 90k.
So, if you book a WBC award ticket to Asia on February 28, 2005 for travel on August 1, 2005, your mileage required is 90k.
Nov 17, 2004 | 9:40 am
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redundant post
Last edited by moondog; Nov 17, 2004 at 10:21 am
Nov 17, 2004 | 10:00 am
#59
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Originally Posted by thezipper
That would be IF ... and thats a big IF there are award seats still available...
Nov 17, 2004 | 10:24 am
#60
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Originally Posted by mdb
Exactly - NWA WBC award availability sucks. It is time for me to look at other options -- I have been holding out with NW - but UA offers so many better options, I think it is time to make the change.