Mr & Mrs Smith Integration (active as of 24 Apr 2024)
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Mr & Mrs Smith Integration (active as of 24 Apr 2024)
Creating a new thread dedicated to the integration of Mr & Mrs Smith within World of Hyatt as we draw closer to its planned onboarding.
As per this article from FrequentMiler, updated with their discussion with Hyatt execs at the end of November 2023:
Seeing that the gift card offer is running through March 31st, 2024, I would expect the offer will hand off to integration of the inaugural properties on April 1st.
Only a few months to go to hopefully see some exciting action, and fingers crossed from further communication from Hyatt in the meantime.
khabah
As per this article from FrequentMiler, updated with their discussion with Hyatt execs at the end of November 2023:
- Hyatt expects to integrate “100’s” of Mr & Mrs Smith properties by early 2024.
- Integration will be much tighter than with their SLH partnership.
- There will be some form of on-property elite recognition, but don’t expect to be able to apply Suite Upgrade Awards.
Seeing that the gift card offer is running through March 31st, 2024, I would expect the offer will hand off to integration of the inaugural properties on April 1st.
Only a few months to go to hopefully see some exciting action, and fingers crossed from further communication from Hyatt in the meantime.
khabah
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If you insist on starting this thread now, before there is any real news, can it be renamed to something like "MMS Integration Speculation" so it more accurately reflects the likely contents.
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Perhaps I’m reading a smidge of aggression from the post above, but for the record I meant this thread to be a general discussion around integration-related matters, not necessarily the official integration one - which I assume, at that point, would warrant its own thread.
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I’d also think that any half-way “proper” integration would require long negotiations with every single property who mostly never had any association with Hyatt (or even any chain at all, in the case of independently owned single properties). I’d imagine this a HUGE quest for Hyatt and would not be surprised if the process took longer than anticipated and/or lots of the more exciting MMS properties pull are pulling out.
Let’s not forget that this platform simply used to be a booking channel and not much more to these hotels. Suddenly being affiliated with one of the major US hotel conglomerates might not go that well with some of these. It’s definitely a total different ballgame compared to being a available on a booking platform, potentially one of many.
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Plenty of speculation but no new news, as far as I can tell.
I’d also think that any half-way “proper” integration would require long negotiations with every single property who mostly never had any association with Hyatt (or even any chain at all, in the case of independently owned single properties). I’d imagine this a HUGE quest for Hyatt and would not be surprised if the process took longer than anticipated and/or lots of the more exciting MMS properties pull are pulling out.
Let’s not forget that this platform simply used to be a booking channel and not much more to these hotels. Suddenly being affiliated with one of the major US hotel conglomerates might not go that well with some of these. It’s definitely a total different ballgame compared to being a available on a booking platform, potentially one of many.
I’d also think that any half-way “proper” integration would require long negotiations with every single property who mostly never had any association with Hyatt (or even any chain at all, in the case of independently owned single properties). I’d imagine this a HUGE quest for Hyatt and would not be surprised if the process took longer than anticipated and/or lots of the more exciting MMS properties pull are pulling out.
Let’s not forget that this platform simply used to be a booking channel and not much more to these hotels. Suddenly being affiliated with one of the major US hotel conglomerates might not go that well with some of these. It’s definitely a total different ballgame compared to being a available on a booking platform, potentially one of many.
Same thought of (former) SLH revenue vs actual Hyatt property. What was the difference?
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I also had the thought Hyatt will be deliberate with MAMS properties within the WOH ecosystem. If there are MAMS hotels located in close proximity to current Hyatt properties, what would be the incentive for integrating these properties? They would just cannibalize Hyatt’s revenue — unless MAMS offers a comparable revenue to the Hyatt group (unlikely since they are independent).
Same thought of (former) SLH revenue vs actual Hyatt property. What was the difference?
Same thought of (former) SLH revenue vs actual Hyatt property. What was the difference?
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But, O-US, it’s more about filling gaps in places that have NO Hyatt presence. And there are many (often rather big) cities around the Globe that have plenty of Marriott/Hilton/Accor but not a single Hyatt. Could easily list 50+ of those places in pretty much any continent but North America.
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Plenty of speculation but no new news, as far as I can tell.
I’d also think that any half-way “proper” integration would require long negotiations with every single property who mostly never had any association with Hyatt (or even any chain at all, in the case of independently owned single properties). I’d imagine this a HUGE quest for Hyatt and would not be surprised if the process took longer than anticipated and/or lots of the more exciting MMS properties pull are pulling out.
Let’s not forget that this platform simply used to be a booking channel and not much more to these hotels. Suddenly being affiliated with one of the major US hotel conglomerates might not go that well with some of these. It’s definitely a total different ballgame compared to being a available on a booking platform, potentially one of many.
I’d also think that any half-way “proper” integration would require long negotiations with every single property who mostly never had any association with Hyatt (or even any chain at all, in the case of independently owned single properties). I’d imagine this a HUGE quest for Hyatt and would not be surprised if the process took longer than anticipated and/or lots of the more exciting MMS properties pull are pulling out.
Let’s not forget that this platform simply used to be a booking channel and not much more to these hotels. Suddenly being affiliated with one of the major US hotel conglomerates might not go that well with some of these. It’s definitely a total different ballgame compared to being a available on a booking platform, potentially one of many.
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i predict WoH will use dynamic pricing for redemptions at these properties at ~$0.01/p valuation. the only potential opportunity i see for value is 1) waived fees 2) free breakfast 3) and maybe suite upgrades only at check-in using a suite upgrade award. hyatt has little leverage to compel these properties to accept peanuts revenue for award stays & advance confirmed suite upgrades.
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i predict WoH will use dynamic pricing for redemptions at these properties at ~$0.01/p valuation. the only potential opportunity i see for value is 1) waived fees 2) free breakfast 3) and maybe suite upgrades only at check-in using a suite upgrade award. hyatt has little leverage to compel these properties to accept peanuts revenue for award stays & advance confirmed suite upgrades.
I've only really looked at Barcelona in the Fall, but the MMS options are far better than SLH. In just this city alone it expands elite earning options by 21 great hotels vs 5 SLH.