Frequent Flyer Lifetime Status
#136
Join Date: Mar 2002
Programs: QF Platinum (OW Emerald); QF Lifestime Silver; BD Diamond Club Gold (*A Gold)
Posts: 4,786
Surprised nobody has mentioned BMI (BD), which offers lifetime *A Gold status in its Diamond Club scheme after 10 years of continuous renewal of its gold tier (very easy to achieve at 38K miles per year renewal).
Even so, the airline is likely to be sold of LH soon, so don't get too excited.
#137
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 74
I wrote in previous thread that JAL Global Club member is almost lifetime with JAL Credit Card.
Now, I found that you don't need to have JAL Credit Card.
http://www.ar.jal.com/world/en/jalmile/jgc/
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ANNUAL FEE
5,000 miles will be deducted from the JGC member's JMB account at initial registration.
As a JGC member you can renew your membership with the payment of the renewal fee of 5,000 miles from your JMB account around the beginning of March.This renewal fee will be waived for :
(1)
JGC members who hold a JALCARD CLUB-A, JAL CLUB-A GOLD or JAL DINERS CARD.
(2)
JGC members who earn 25,000 FLY ON Points or fly 10 eligible flights with JAL/JALways international flights during the calendar year.
* *For JAL Family Club members, 5,000 miles may be deducted using family pooling.
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They don't say that you can renew One Wolrd Sapphire. But JGC membership, Yes. JGC membership is better than One World Sapphire when you fly with JAL, but it is Ruby with other One World carrier.
If you want to keep JGC & OW Sapphire, you need to fly only 20.000miles(One World) and four flights with JAL.
Don't you think it is easy ?
I also wrote that ANA-Star Aliance has simlar program, and ANA SFC membership is Star Aliance Gold. It means ANA is better than JAL.
If there is a simlar program in Sky Team, please let me know. I'd like to challenge.
I hope you understand my poor english.
Regards
Now, I found that you don't need to have JAL Credit Card.
http://www.ar.jal.com/world/en/jalmile/jgc/
-----------------------------
ANNUAL FEE
5,000 miles will be deducted from the JGC member's JMB account at initial registration.
As a JGC member you can renew your membership with the payment of the renewal fee of 5,000 miles from your JMB account around the beginning of March.This renewal fee will be waived for :
(1)
JGC members who hold a JALCARD CLUB-A, JAL CLUB-A GOLD or JAL DINERS CARD.
(2)
JGC members who earn 25,000 FLY ON Points or fly 10 eligible flights with JAL/JALways international flights during the calendar year.
* *For JAL Family Club members, 5,000 miles may be deducted using family pooling.
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They don't say that you can renew One Wolrd Sapphire. But JGC membership, Yes. JGC membership is better than One World Sapphire when you fly with JAL, but it is Ruby with other One World carrier.
If you want to keep JGC & OW Sapphire, you need to fly only 20.000miles(One World) and four flights with JAL.
Don't you think it is easy ?
I also wrote that ANA-Star Aliance has simlar program, and ANA SFC membership is Star Aliance Gold. It means ANA is better than JAL.
If there is a simlar program in Sky Team, please let me know. I'd like to challenge.
I hope you understand my poor english.
Regards
Last edited by dabo_gc; May 24, 2008 at 12:51 pm
#138
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: NRT/PDX
Programs: Willamette Valley Cropdusters Silver Elite, National Tent Frequent Stay program, Ed's Rent-a-tractor
Posts: 3,357
You state "If you want to keep JGC & OW Sapphire, you need to fly only 20.000miles(One World) and four flights with JAL." Would you happen to know if the cost of keeping the SFC membership is equally minimal?
#140
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 74
ANA Super Flyer Card
ANA Mileage Club
http://www.ana.co.jp/amc_e/
ANA Super Flyer Card (Star Aliance Gold)
http://www.ana.co.jp/amc_e/plabro/sfc_hd.html
ANA SFC is with ANA Credit Card which is almost impossible for foreign resident to get.
I will seek more info about this.
I found that English information is less than in Japanese. So, if you need more information, just tell me.
Regards
http://www.ana.co.jp/amc_e/
ANA Super Flyer Card (Star Aliance Gold)
http://www.ana.co.jp/amc_e/plabro/sfc_hd.html
ANA SFC is with ANA Credit Card which is almost impossible for foreign resident to get.
I found that English information is less than in Japanese. So, if you need more information, just tell me.
Regards
#141
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 74
ANA Credit Card
There are four companies offering ANA credit card.
Mitsui Sumitomo Card
Sony Finance International
JCB
Citicard Japan
If you have Citibank account and creidt card in your country, you may have chance to transfer your Credit Info to Citicard Japan and get it.
To keep Star alliance gold status, you need to pay annual fee of the card only.
Regards
Mitsui Sumitomo Card
Sony Finance International
JCB
Citicard Japan
If you have Citibank account and creidt card in your country, you may have chance to transfer your Credit Info to Citicard Japan and get it.
To keep Star alliance gold status, you need to pay annual fee of the card only.
Regards
Last edited by dabo_gc; May 25, 2008 at 5:09 pm
#142
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: PDX and Everywhere
Programs: *Alliance, OneWorld
Posts: 248
dabo_gc, thank you for providing that info on obtaining Star Alliance status through a Japanese credit card. That is good to know. A while back I wanted to get a card in Japan, but it was only for residents of the country. Perhaps one of the ones you mention will allow foreigners to sign up.
#143


Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: BOM-WAW-EWR
Programs: UA*G (1K again), Sixt Plat, AC*G, LH FTL, AI*G *was*: SQ QPP01 & SK EBS/EBG, LH SEN, AA EXP, 9wPlat
Posts: 8,750
#144
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: NRT/PDX
Programs: Willamette Valley Cropdusters Silver Elite, National Tent Frequent Stay program, Ed's Rent-a-tractor
Posts: 3,357
Originally Posted by dabo_gc
To keep Star alliance gold status, you need to pay annual fee of the card only.
Originally Posted by SuperFlyBoy
But first, in order to *apply*, you would have to be a Diamond or a Platinum, correct??
#145


Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: BOM-WAW-EWR
Programs: UA*G (1K again), Sixt Plat, AC*G, LH FTL, AI*G *was*: SQ QPP01 & SK EBS/EBG, LH SEN, AA EXP, 9wPlat
Posts: 8,750
Yes, thanks from me as well!
Can we verify this from someone else 's experience as well? This would be great...
However, if, after all the effort of qualifying and receiving the card, it is not valid after you lose *actual* NH*G status, then we have 50k ANA miles sitting unused...
This is similar to my situation - I transferred 40k AmEx into ANA a couple of years ago to upgrade a SQ flight SIN-EWR, but was never able to do so, and have been trying to trade them on CC...
Wouldn't want to be stuck with another 50k miles there!
That's how it reads to me. 50,000 "Premium Points" are necessary to qualify for ANA "Platinum Service." If all one needs to do is pay the annual fee to maintain Star Alliance Gold, it may be worth switching my mileage earning to ANA (at least for one year). The problem is the uncertainty involved in qualifying for the card.
However, if, after all the effort of qualifying and receiving the card, it is not valid after you lose *actual* NH*G status, then we have 50k ANA miles sitting unused...
This is similar to my situation - I transferred 40k AmEx into ANA a couple of years ago to upgrade a SQ flight SIN-EWR, but was never able to do so, and have been trying to trade them on CC...
Wouldn't want to be stuck with another 50k miles there!
#148
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 74
That's how it reads to me. 50,000 "Premium Points" are necessary to qualify for ANA "Platinum Service." If all one needs to do is pay the annual fee to maintain Star Alliance Gold, it may be worth switching my mileage earning to ANA (at least for one year). The problem is the uncertainty involved in qualifying for the card.
Yes, thanks from me as well!
Can we verify this from someone else 's experience as well? This would be great...
However, if, after all the effort of qualifying and receiving the card, it is not valid after you lose *actual* NH*G status, then we have 50k ANA miles sitting unused...
This is similar to my situation - I transferred 40k AmEx into ANA a couple of years ago to upgrade a SQ flight SIN-EWR, but was never able to do so, and have been trying to trade them on CC...
Wouldn't want to be stuck with another 50k miles there!
Can we verify this from someone else 's experience as well? This would be great...
However, if, after all the effort of qualifying and receiving the card, it is not valid after you lose *actual* NH*G status, then we have 50k ANA miles sitting unused...
This is similar to my situation - I transferred 40k AmEx into ANA a couple of years ago to upgrade a SQ flight SIN-EWR, but was never able to do so, and have been trying to trade them on CC...
Wouldn't want to be stuck with another 50k miles there!
Anytime you can apply ANA-Credit card. It's open and you don't have to be Plat nor Dia. So, try to get the card first. And if you can get it, fly and get 50,000points to become ANA-Plat and renew Credit Card with Plat and *Gold status which is called Super Flyers Card.
I'm a Japanese living abroad and am trying to get this credit card. I have a few bank accounts in Japan and other credit cards issued while in Japan. And I believe my credit status & history is good enough but I cannot get NEW credit card.

I don't want to give up 'cause this system is too sweet and easy. I guess only hope left for us is Citicard. Japanese megabank is
Last edited by dabo_gc; May 28, 2008 at 4:25 am
#149
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: NRT/PDX
Programs: Willamette Valley Cropdusters Silver Elite, National Tent Frequent Stay program, Ed's Rent-a-tractor
Posts: 3,357
Thanks. This may be a workable idea. If one can't get even the basic ANA CC initially, then there's no wasted time chasing 50k ANA Premium Points.
#150
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Sacramento
Programs: UA 3MM, former GS; Bonvoy Lifetime Plat; MHC Lifetime; Tar Heel forever
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