The Air Transport Association, the industry's Wash based trade group, said, "This proposal is poor public policy that would unilaterally penalize the hundreds of millions of cooperative, law-abiding passengers because of the disruptive, rude, and often illegal conduct of a few."

Flight crews also oppose the Feinstein plan, but from a different viewpoint. The Association of Flight Attendants says airlines should limit passengers to one drink at a time during flights, and stop serving alcohol before takeoff.

The FAA, which reported 314 incidents involving "unruly" pax last year, says it may study possible connections between drinking and "air rage."

Are most flyertalk aficianados essentially libertarians? I'd like to proposea "voluntary curb" on politician-bashing (some of us respect Dianne Feinstein very much despite her inevitable incliniations to act like an overzealous girl scout.) Surely we can have an interesting discussion about this topic without the vituperative remarks. (I did like the wisecrack about the Hillary Clinton two-affair limit proposal though...)

Just my 2 cents worth.

Sorry, duplicate post.

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WASHINGTON (CBS.MW) -- The airline industry has flatly rejected a U.S. senator's request to impose a two-drink limit on all domestic flights.

Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., sent letters to seven major airlines, asking they adopt a new policy to help control alcohol-induced "air rage." In the letter, she threatened congressional action if the airlines did not comply. Her idea did not fly.

The Air Transport Association, the industry's Washington trade group, says, "This proposal is poor public policy that would unilaterally penalize the hundreds of millions of cooperative, law-abiding passengers because of the disruptive, rude, and often illegal conduct of a few."

Flight crews are also oppose the Feinstein plan, but from a different vector. The Association of Flight Attendants says airlines should limit passengers to one drink at a time during flights, and stop serving alcohol before takeoff.

The FAA, which reported 314 incidents involving unruly passengers last year, says it may study possible connections between drinking and "air rage."


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BA looked at this, but I remembering the days at BCAL when we could only serve 2 cocktails, 1 wine, and 1 liquor on flights in and out of Tripoli when the oil men were used to drinking the bar dry by the time we were out over Malta on the way home. I know that this sounds like a piece of "do-goodism" that is the thin end of the wedge. I think that we know when the answer has to be "no" (we give away all our booze across the entire network). The only danger comes when different cabin staff serve the passenger not knowing what has gone down before. Then I might have to intervene. Actually, recently some of the worst drunks have been in First Class. At least they are in a seat they can sleep it off in.

ROTFLMAO, MisterNice!

Insightful question, renoel. I consider myself a little-L libertarian, and have noticed that many others - but certainly not all - here are also somewhat fiscally conservative and socially liberal. I think that tends to translate into a laissez-faire attitude when it comes to air travel.

I suspect this would lead many here to have a lot of disagreements with their politicians.
It seems that US politicians, in particular, are incapable of being fiscally conservative without also being bible-wielders who wish to stifle personal freedom and thrust their moral views down everyone's throats. (Latest example being the whole issue of denying US federal funding to any overseas organisation which performs abortions.)

Few Business Class columns have generated the heated responses from readers as the one last week that detailed California Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein's proposal to cap at two the number of drinks airlines can serve passengers.

Indeed, some of the e-mails and letters couldn't be reprinted here because, well, this is a family newspaper. Most who responded thought the idea was ridiculous and wouldn't fix anything.

"It's the airlines, not alcohol" that's the problem, said Tina Ali-Davis, an Alexandria-based computer software consultant. "If the planes left on time and if their employees treated us with a drop of respect, you wouldn't see folks blowing up.

"If anything, several drinks calm us down so we don't lash out and wring someone's neck," Ali-Davis added.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2001Jul31.html

The airlines should prohibit the wearing of underwear on all flights! The reason? Fully 100% of those involved in air rage incidents did so while wearing underwear!

Do I have an evidence of the connection between wearing underwear and air rage? While I don't have any evidence of a direct cuase-and-effect relationship, the anecdotal evidence is overwhelming!

NOT!!!! I have it on good authority, the two "models" who happened to be sisters and were raging and fighting on AS recently, were underwear-challenged.

MisterNice

That's it! Where's the Moderator?! Obviously, these last posts should be under another thread -

Comfort While Flying - Going Commando

Then again, I know I would be less inclined to upset if I was a little more "comfortable." Who's idea was this? I think its Great! From now on, no more underwear for me while flying!

Save your appreciative remarks, just doing my part to reduce air rage.

lisamcgu

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Now that Di Fi's pulled off her little media stunt and the airlines have called her bluff, it'll be interesting to see if she actually goes ahead with her "threatened congressional action."

Somehow, I doubt it...

Let's be vigilant. While I can't see Congress passing Sen. Feinstein's envisaged law as stand-alone legislation, she could sneak her concepts into an amendment to an unrelated bill.

If somehow the proposed Feinstein BAN ON AIRLINE BOOZE gets passed and implemented, then maybe the ostrich-like voters of California will finally sober up (hey, get it?) and admit what a fitful fake flightly phony flake she really is and not re-elect her.

MisterNice