Feinstein asks airlines to limit passengers to 2 drinks
Jul 24, 2001 | 12:40 am
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Last week, she sent a letter to the CEOs of seven major airlines, warning that if they don't implement rules that limit passengers to two drinks on domestic flights, "I am prepared to proceed with legislation."
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Considering the quote from her letter in my original post above, I don't see how you can say DiFi is not "proposing" a new law. She clearly wants to limit onboard drinks but would rather coerce the airlines into doing it "voluntarily" before "proceeding with legislation".
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Considering the quote from her letter in my original post above, I don't see how you can say DiFi is not "proposing" a new law. She clearly wants to limit onboard drinks but would rather coerce the airlines into doing it "voluntarily" before "proceeding with legislation".
Jul 24, 2001 | 6:21 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Top Tier:
I don't see how you can say DiFi is not "proposing" a new law. She clearly wants to limit onboard drinks but would rather coerce the airlines into doing it "voluntarily" before "proceeding with legislation".
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I don't see how you can say DiFi is not "proposing" a new law. She clearly wants to limit onboard drinks but would rather coerce the airlines into doing it "voluntarily" before "proceeding with legislation".
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She hasn't, because she knows it doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell at passing.
So all she can do to draw attention to herself is send a letter to the CEOs, and announce it to the media. This guise of asking the airlines to institute a "voluntary" policy only proves that she knows there's nothing she can really do about it, but she's banking that some people are stupid enough to think that she can.
How typical.
Jul 24, 2001 | 8:44 am
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Consider this scenario: What if someone you knew died in an airline accident caused by the actions of a drunken passenger?
It will only be a matter of time before some drunkard manages to break into a cockpit and causes such a tragedy...
It will only be a matter of time before some drunkard manages to break into a cockpit and causes such a tragedy...
Jul 24, 2001 | 10:47 am
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I fly back and forth to Hawaii a minimum of 8x a year, these flights tend to have more of a party atmosphere than say a flight SFO-ORD. Even on the AM flights people tend to start the day off with a champagne or Mimosa and continue with MaiTais, etc. (most are starting a well earned vacation). In the course of this 5+ hour flight I have never seen anyone get visibly drunk or disruptive,(much less storm the cockpit) I think this whole issue is way overblown.
Jul 24, 2001 | 12:37 pm
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Tragic as such an event might be, I'd still not be so reactionary as to propose a set limit on the number of drinks a person may consume. Individuals must be accountable for their own actions without blanket legislation for the population at large.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by avek00:
Consider this scenario: What if someone you knew died in an airline accident caused by the actions of a drunken passenger?
It will only be a matter of time before some drunkard manages to break into a cockpit and causes such a tragedy...</font>
Consider this scenario: What if someone you knew died in an airline accident caused by the actions of a drunken passenger?
It will only be a matter of time before some drunkard manages to break into a cockpit and causes such a tragedy...
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Jul 24, 2001 | 1:26 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by doc:
Aren't some sober folks also kinda' nasty and perhaps a bit demented and possibly violent too?</font>
Aren't some sober folks also kinda' nasty and perhaps a bit demented and possibly violent too?</font>
Jul 24, 2001 | 9:36 pm
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Spiff, what you say makes a good deal of sense.
However, having said that,let me say this: Since when, in recent years, does good sense have ANYthing to do with anything??
Haven't you heard the new mantra--we are not responsible for our actions! It is (fill in the blank here...) __________'s fault.
We do not need to hear any nonsense about responsibility, because none of us are responsible for our actions.
So there.
However, having said that,let me say this: Since when, in recent years, does good sense have ANYthing to do with anything??
Haven't you heard the new mantra--we are not responsible for our actions! It is (fill in the blank here...) __________'s fault.
We do not need to hear any nonsense about responsibility, because none of us are responsible for our actions.
So there.
Jul 24, 2001 | 11:10 pm
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I just had a thought, alcohol has been a part of air travel since the very begining with very few instances of air rage until recently.
Conversely, Smoking has only been restricted/banned in airports and aircraft for a relatively short time and in the same period air rage cases have dramatically increased, perhaps a Senator from a tobacco state could send a letter to the Airlines asking them to provide two cigarettes and a smoking lounge area to each passenger in order to prevent air rage.
(Tongue only partially in cheek)
Conversely, Smoking has only been restricted/banned in airports and aircraft for a relatively short time and in the same period air rage cases have dramatically increased, perhaps a Senator from a tobacco state could send a letter to the Airlines asking them to provide two cigarettes and a smoking lounge area to each passenger in order to prevent air rage.
(Tongue only partially in cheek)
Jul 25, 2001 | 12:11 am
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1) for our under-21 FTers, have you been able to get an alcoholic drink on board an airplane in the U.S.? do flight attendants card pax who look young?
2a) would someone please refresh my memory as to why the airlines no longer permit smoking on aircraft. did the airlines volunteer? did pax demand it? was it in response to flight attendants threatening a lawsuit against the airlines? did the government pass a law?
2b) is air travel more pleasant now that all domestic flights in the U.S. are non smoking?
2a) would someone please refresh my memory as to why the airlines no longer permit smoking on aircraft. did the airlines volunteer? did pax demand it? was it in response to flight attendants threatening a lawsuit against the airlines? did the government pass a law?
2b) is air travel more pleasant now that all domestic flights in the U.S. are non smoking?
Jul 25, 2001 | 1:24 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"> Since when in recent years does good sense have ANYthing to do with anything??</font>
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">We do not need to hear any nonsense about responsibility, because none of us are responsible for our actions.</font>
Jul 25, 2001 | 11:28 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Leisuremiles:
Conversely, Smoking has only been restricted/banned in airports and aircraft for a relatively short time and in the same period air rage cases have dramatically increased, perhaps a Senator from a tobacco state could send a letter to the Airlines asking them to provide two cigarettes and a smoking lounge area to each passenger in order to prevent air rage.
(Tongue only partially in cheek) </font>
Conversely, Smoking has only been restricted/banned in airports and aircraft for a relatively short time and in the same period air rage cases have dramatically increased, perhaps a Senator from a tobacco state could send a letter to the Airlines asking them to provide two cigarettes and a smoking lounge area to each passenger in order to prevent air rage.
(Tongue only partially in cheek) </font>
Jul 25, 2001 | 12:52 pm
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Raising a Glass Or Two -- No More -- To Safety in Flight
By Keith L. Alexander
Wednesday, July 25, 2001; Page E01
Imagine this future: You've closed a big deal or, better yet, you've blown a big deal and you're getting on the red-eye at LAX for the five-hour flight to Dulles. You order a double martini, then ask for another.
No can do, says the flight attendant. Two little bottles of booze is the limit. You're looking at 4 hours and 50 minutes of seltzer water and a movie.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2001Jul24.html
By Keith L. Alexander
Wednesday, July 25, 2001; Page E01
Imagine this future: You've closed a big deal or, better yet, you've blown a big deal and you're getting on the red-eye at LAX for the five-hour flight to Dulles. You order a double martini, then ask for another.
No can do, says the flight attendant. Two little bottles of booze is the limit. You're looking at 4 hours and 50 minutes of seltzer water and a movie.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2001Jul24.html
Jul 25, 2001 | 1:37 pm
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Essxjay -
I am in complete agreement with you!
What I was doing there was playing devil's advocate, acting like those too-many people who always blame society for their own irresponsible behavior instead of themselves.
I guess I should have wrapped the whole post in a smiley face or something. I am sorry if I led you astray by what I wrote.
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[This message has been edited by hnechets (edited 07-25-2001).]
I am in complete agreement with you!
What I was doing there was playing devil's advocate, acting like those too-many people who always blame society for their own irresponsible behavior instead of themselves.
I guess I should have wrapped the whole post in a smiley face or something. I am sorry if I led you astray by what I wrote.
Are we friends again?
[This message has been edited by hnechets (edited 07-25-2001).]