Sorry, but the ends do not justify the means.

The skies are not filled with skid row passengers as such a bill might lead us to believe. People who fly plastered are a tiny, tiny minority of the thousands of people who take to the skies each day. We don't need legislation that unfairly affects the overwhelming majority of passengers who drink responsibly.

It's this kind of stupid, knee-jerk legislation that really annoys me. A small number of people can't do Z (insert noun or verb here) responsibly, so let's forbid Z.

Why don't we take this idiotic proposition a step further. Someone was killed by a speeding motorist. Let's ban cars. Children have been injured while riding skateboards, let's ban them too. Cell phones might cause cancer, let's ban them as well. Somebody spilled coffee on themselves and died from the burns, let's ban coffee and all hot drinks for that matter. If we can save just one life by banning hot drinks, the world will be a safer, happier place.

Let's face it, the world is not a 100% safe place. You can either accept that and expect responsible behavior out of people, enforcable by law or you can try to regulate/restrict the world until each of us has his/her own nice safe padded room. For people who prefer option B, instead of flying, why not just stay home each day, it's so much safer!

"Smithers, who is that ignoramus??"

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Feinstein ... what an officious twit!

doc, this is by far the simplest solution.

Having flown over 2.5 million miles sofar (over 1 1/4 of it on UA) I have yet to encounter a single incident, but have always enjoyed peaceful flights in this regard.

This is another example of a politician creating a "problem" out of an absolute non-issue by and large.

I guess that is why the Flight Attendants union has made a big fuss over air rage... Maybe it's just in their imagination.

I am also one of those who thinks that the FAs often are responsible for the problems created by inebriated passengers.

I have been subject several times to this situation: After having asked a couple of times for a refill of wine after having finished dinner, sometimes the FA goes and fills a large glass up to the rim with wine. I am not sure of her intentions, but I get annoyed for several reasos: 1) Is she trying to tell me "you drink too much"? 2) Is she just saying "here have a lot and do not call me anymore for a refill as I am tired of you keeping to ask for more"? 3)I find it lacking class drinking wine from a regular glass that is full of wine.

Often, I noticed that when asking for one more drink, the FAs would give a few of the mini bottles to the passenger. It is as if the FAs are trying to save themselves from having to come again through the cabin to serve more drinks. They would rather give lots of drinks to passengers before they even ask.

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Originally posted by dreadmon:

Whoa! So if you ate dinner at a nice restaurant and didn't like the wine they served there, would you bring your own? I believe most states have laws regarding drinking in public places (and bringing your own booze to places that serve it), ...
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Reply posted by gleff:

Yes!

Most restaurants here in the states will charge a corkage fee.. but if I'm having a special dinner I'll often bring along a correspondingly special bottle of wine.

For any DC folks out there, Melrose at the Park Hyatt waives the corkage fee on Sunday nights..
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Hey, Thanks gleff! If you're ever flying into SNA, CA, let me know, and I'll give you the names of the restaurants around here that waive the corkage fee.

And, MisterNice, thanks for the tip on letting the FAs serve it - I'll test it on my next flight.

I didn't vote for her

Amen!

Perhaps. Or more likely is that they wish to reduce their workload. After all, flight attendants are onboard primarily for your safety.

As a Republican, I find it refreshing that after 6 months of Bush's presidency, this is all she has to complain about.

Oh, there's plenty more. It's just that as a Republican, you don't want to listen.

All I've got to say is:

ROFLMAO!!!!

Perhaps a two drink minimum in the Senate would be more productive? Nah...it would never fly.

Happy Travels

As the resident Objectivist, well, I'm never happy about who occupies the White House.

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