Best card for foreign exchange?
#976
In memoriam
Join Date: Jan 2006
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As I understand it, Citi AA credit card charges overseas are hit with a 3% "commission," a good reason not to use them abroad. Citi ATM withdrawals, if done at a Citi machine overseas are converted at the interbank rate with no other charges. If not done at Citi machine charges are pretty high.
#977




Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: CMH
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As I understand it, Citi AA credit card charges overseas are hit with a 3% "commission," a good reason not to use them abroad. Citi ATM withdrawals, if done at a Citi machine overseas are converted at the interbank rate with no other charges. If not done at Citi machine charges are pretty high.
#978
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: New York
Programs: AA Plat, CO Gold
Posts: 1,598
Transaction Fee for Purchases Made in a Foreign Currency: For each purchase made in a foreign currency we add an additional FINANCE CHARGE of 3% of the purchase amount after its conversion into U.S. dollars.
#979


Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: US expat somewhere south of Valpo, Shiiile
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Regarding Citibank AAdvantage CC
Another data point.
I usually purchase a ticket on the Chilean site of Lan with this card once or twice a year and the charge in USD has never (yet) had any additional transaction fee added.
I usually purchase a ticket on the Chilean site of Lan with this card once or twice a year and the charge in USD has never (yet) had any additional transaction fee added.
#980
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 69
If you want to avoid the 1 %, use the Bank of America ATM at the BA branch or its partner bank ATM's. There is no charge and the exchange rate is even better (at least for the above locations) than Citi.
#981
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Location: Alabama / Georgia
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#982
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 4,020
I withdraw at the Citi branch office ATMs at St. Petersburg and Moscow, Russia, Shanghai, HongKong, London, Paris, Ireland... they all have the 1% ATM charges. I will never use it at Non-Citi owned ATM's.
If you want to avoid the 1 %, use the Bank of America ATM at the BA branch or its partner bank ATM's. There is no charge and the exchange rate is even better (at least for the above locations) than Citi.
If you want to avoid the 1 %, use the Bank of America ATM at the BA branch or its partner bank ATM's. There is no charge and the exchange rate is even better (at least for the above locations) than Citi.
#983
Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: Rio de Janeiro, BRAZIL
Programs: AA 4MM EXP; Starwood Lifetime Plt
Posts: 2,498
Citibank fees for charges in US dollars outside of the US
I just called Citibank Diners Club 1-800-2-DINERS, Citibank Hilton HHonors 1-866-517-7795, and Citibank AAdvantage World MaterCard 1-888-766-2484. The first two (Diners and Hilton) said there definitely would be a 3% charge for a US dollar charge outside of the States; the last (AAdvantage) said that there would be no charge. If anybody has the time, give it a try and see what answers you get.
#984
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 30,343
I use Schwab Visa managed by MBNA for overseas. It just went from no foreign currency conversion fee to 1% fee. However, I got the card last April initially for its $100 Visa gift card sign up bonus and at the time it specifically said there was no conversion fee for applications made before xx date. Dont know how the rule applies to current application given MBNA is purchased by BofA, and all Fidelity cards now charge 3%.
I use BofA ATM card in countries where it has its own Int'l ATM network - namely UK - Barclays, France - BNP, Germany - Deustch bank, Australia/NZ - WestPac, Canada/Mexico - Scotia. No fee and very competitive rates.
Otherwise I use Wachovia ATM card and there is 1% fee.
I am thinking about to get an HSBC account as HSBC is everywhere. I used my Wachovia ATM card at T3 of CDG to get Euro as there is only one HSBC machine. There was a 1% fee on my Wachovia statement. (Flew in from Liverpool on EasyJet and took the Roissy Bus to town for our hotel InterContinental Le Grand at L'Opera).
I use BofA ATM card in countries where it has its own Int'l ATM network - namely UK - Barclays, France - BNP, Germany - Deustch bank, Australia/NZ - WestPac, Canada/Mexico - Scotia. No fee and very competitive rates.
Otherwise I use Wachovia ATM card and there is 1% fee.
I am thinking about to get an HSBC account as HSBC is everywhere. I used my Wachovia ATM card at T3 of CDG to get Euro as there is only one HSBC machine. There was a 1% fee on my Wachovia statement. (Flew in from Liverpool on EasyJet and took the Roissy Bus to town for our hotel InterContinental Le Grand at L'Opera).
#985
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Join Date: Jan 2006
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I just called Citibank Diners Club 1-800-2-DINERS, Citibank Hilton HHonors 1-866-517-7795, and Citibank AAdvantage World MaterCard 1-888-766-2484. The first two (Diners and Hilton) said there definitely would be a 3% charge for a US dollar charge outside of the States; the last (AAdvantage) said that there would be no charge. If anybody has the time, give it a try and see what answers you get.
Am I confused, or are they?
#986
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Alabama / Georgia
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I use Schwab Visa managed by MBNA for overseas. It just went from no foreign currency conversion fee to 1% fee. However, I got the card last April initially for its $100 Visa gift card sign up bonus and at the time it specifically said there was no conversion fee for applications made before xx date. Dont know how the rule applies to current application given MBNA is purchased by BofA, and all Fidelity cards now charge 3%.
I use BofA ATM card in countries where it has its own Int'l ATM network - namely UK - Barclays, France - BNP, Germany - Deustch bank, Australia/NZ - WestPac, Canada/Mexico - Scotia. No fee and very competitive rates.
Otherwise I use Wachovia ATM card and there is 1% fee.
I am thinking about to get an HSBC account as HSBC is everywhere. I used my Wachovia ATM card at T3 of CDG to get Euro as there is only one HSBC machine. There was a 1% fee on my Wachovia statement. (Flew in from Liverpool on EasyJet and took the Roissy Bus to town for our hotel InterContinental Le Grand at L'Opera).
I use BofA ATM card in countries where it has its own Int'l ATM network - namely UK - Barclays, France - BNP, Germany - Deustch bank, Australia/NZ - WestPac, Canada/Mexico - Scotia. No fee and very competitive rates.
Otherwise I use Wachovia ATM card and there is 1% fee.
I am thinking about to get an HSBC account as HSBC is everywhere. I used my Wachovia ATM card at T3 of CDG to get Euro as there is only one HSBC machine. There was a 1% fee on my Wachovia statement. (Flew in from Liverpool on EasyJet and took the Roissy Bus to town for our hotel InterContinental Le Grand at L'Opera).
#987
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: New York
Programs: AA Plat, CO Gold
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Are you charging those purchases in USD? If not, Citi will definitely charge you a 3% foreign currency conversion fee. The issue is whether or not they charge 3% for foreign purchases made in USD also.
#988
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
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Hertz converted our rental car charge in Scotland, to USD, without even informing us such practice. The rate they used to convert the GBP to USD is exactly 3% higher than the prevailing rate at the time. At least my Schwab Visa did not add any more fee on that, though it totally defeat the purpose of using Schwab card for the rental car.
There are a lots of talks about double charges on the purchases being "BILLED" in USD. 3% on top of 3%. You are seeing more and more places have a default option of converting foreign currency billing in USD on your card - you have to manually choose the other option, so the charge to your card is in local currency. I just experienced this when purchased tickets on Virgin Blue, Australia.
#989
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Join Date: Nov 1999
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Washington Mutual 1%
Just cancelled out the MyPoints WM CC I just got (wanted the 5000 MYPTS) , turns out they charge only 1% for Forex.
But with only 1 pt per $1 , for what I cash out for it gets me less than 1% in value back, so need to keep the card. But some might be able to find what they want that yields them a 1% value in Redemption or maybe other WM CCs are also 1%.
But with only 1 pt per $1 , for what I cash out for it gets me less than 1% in value back, so need to keep the card. But some might be able to find what they want that yields them a 1% value in Redemption or maybe other WM CCs are also 1%.
#990


Join Date: Aug 2005
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We were in Mexico a few weeks ago. I used my Fidelity Visa (MBNA/BofA), SPG Amex and Citi AAdvantage cards.
My Fidelity Visa statement does not show any FX charge. The exchange rate used was close to the rate for that day. I assume if there was an FX fee, it would have been shown seperately.
On my Citi statement, the exchange rate was pretty close to the exchange rate on the date of transaction. The bottom of the statement shows the 3% FX fee I was charged.
My Amex statement shows no seperate FX fee. I noticed that the rate Amex gave me was approximately 2% less than the exchange rate in effect on the date of processing (i.e. - the 2% fee they charge).
My Fidelity Visa statement does not show any FX charge. The exchange rate used was close to the rate for that day. I assume if there was an FX fee, it would have been shown seperately.
On my Citi statement, the exchange rate was pretty close to the exchange rate on the date of transaction. The bottom of the statement shows the 3% FX fee I was charged.
My Amex statement shows no seperate FX fee. I noticed that the rate Amex gave me was approximately 2% less than the exchange rate in effect on the date of processing (i.e. - the 2% fee they charge).

