Best card for foreign exchange?
#1726
Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: Rio de Janeiro, BRAZIL
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Schwab Checking/ATM
-No minimum balance and still earns interest (currently .75% APY)
-Refunds on all ATM fees domestic and international
-No foreign exchange fees (0%)
-Competitive exchange rates that basically mirror the actual rate with no additional fees.
-Visa/Plus network, so access to alot of ATM's worldwide.
The part about "Refunds on all ATM fees domestic and international" isn't really true -- Schwab will only refund ATM fees if they have been PROPERLY reported by the ATM bank and VISA, and that doesn't always happen outside of the USA. For example, Citibank in Brazil charges an ATM fee of over R$ 10 for each withdrawal with a Schwab card but Citibank simply tacks it onto the total and does not report it to VISA. So, if you withdraw R$1000, the Citibank ATM will give you R$1000, but charge your Schwab account the equivalent of R$1010. Even if you present the receipt to Schwab they will not make good on their promise of no ATM fees.
-No minimum balance and still earns interest (currently .75% APY)
-Refunds on all ATM fees domestic and international
-No foreign exchange fees (0%)
-Competitive exchange rates that basically mirror the actual rate with no additional fees.
-Visa/Plus network, so access to alot of ATM's worldwide.
The part about "Refunds on all ATM fees domestic and international" isn't really true -- Schwab will only refund ATM fees if they have been PROPERLY reported by the ATM bank and VISA, and that doesn't always happen outside of the USA. For example, Citibank in Brazil charges an ATM fee of over R$ 10 for each withdrawal with a Schwab card but Citibank simply tacks it onto the total and does not report it to VISA. So, if you withdraw R$1000, the Citibank ATM will give you R$1000, but charge your Schwab account the equivalent of R$1010. Even if you present the receipt to Schwab they will not make good on their promise of no ATM fees.
#1727




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getting hit with 1% fee at Paribas ATM with BofA card
I thought using BofA ATM card at global alliance bank ATMs was supposed to be completely fee-free (and was told as much over the phone when I called BofA before leaving the USA) but I'm clearly getting charged 1% on each ATM transaction. Is that the way it's supposed to be?
#1728
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 163
I thought using BofA ATM card at global alliance bank ATMs was supposed to be completely fee-free (and was told as much over the phone when I called BofA before leaving the USA) but I'm clearly getting charged 1% on each ATM transaction. Is that the way it's supposed to be?
#1729
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: ORD
Posts: 277
Has anyone had experience using their Ally Bank ATM card for foreign exchange? From what I can tell from their website and a Google search, they do not charge any forex fees.
#1730




Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 677
The part about "Refunds on all ATM fees domestic and international" isn't really true -- Schwab will only refund ATM fees if they have been PROPERLY reported by the ATM bank and VISA, and that doesn't always happen outside of the USA. For example, Citibank in Brazil charges an ATM fee of over R$ 10 for each withdrawal with a Schwab card but Citibank simply tacks it onto the total and does not report it to VISA. So, if you withdraw R$1000, the Citibank ATM will give you R$1000, but charge your Schwab account the equivalent of R$1010. Even if you present the receipt to Schwab they will not make good on their promise of no ATM fees.

although I do understand that what Schwab does is technically against their promise of refunding all ATM fees.
But even so I rate Schwab A+, their customer service is the best!
#1731
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Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Shanghai
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This is true. I used a HSBC in Mexico and the ATM fee was rolled into the withdrawal amount and I never received any rebate for it. Maybe I will call them to find out why? But it was a pretty small amount, $0.75 I think...still beats a Bank of America charging a ridiculous $5 plus 3% in ADDITION to whatever fees the other ATM will charge 
although I do understand that what Schwab does is technically against their promise of refunding all ATM fees.
But even so I rate Schwab A+, their customer service is the best!

although I do understand that what Schwab does is technically against their promise of refunding all ATM fees.
But even so I rate Schwab A+, their customer service is the best!
#1732
Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: Rio de Janeiro, BRAZIL
Programs: AA 4MM EXP; Starwood Lifetime Plt
Posts: 2,498
This is true. I used a HSBC in Mexico and the ATM fee was rolled into the withdrawal amount and I never received any rebate for it. Maybe I will call them to find out why? But it was a pretty small amount, $0.75 I think...still beats a Bank of America charging a ridiculous $5 plus 3% in ADDITION to whatever fees the other ATM will charge 
although I do understand that what Schwab does is technically against their promise of refunding all ATM fees.
But even so I rate Schwab A+, their customer service is the best!

although I do understand that what Schwab does is technically against their promise of refunding all ATM fees.
But even so I rate Schwab A+, their customer service is the best!
#1733


Join Date: Feb 1999
Location: Denver CO
Posts: 3,686
I can't believe the vitriol and just wrong information about Schwab's policy on ATM fees (and other matters).
Here's their policy: If the fee is separately stated on your ATM receipt, they refund it. If it is not broken out, they do not refund it since there is not a convenient way to figure out what it is.
Here's their policy: If the fee is separately stated on your ATM receipt, they refund it. If it is not broken out, they do not refund it since there is not a convenient way to figure out what it is.
#1734
Join Date: Apr 1999
Location: Oak Park, IL
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Citibank Atm/debit card
I have a citigold account with citibank. Using their ATM/debit card - there are no foreign exchange fees. If used at banamax in Mexico, it is considered Citibank, but my account is suppose to waive atm fees but I only took out money once. I got the bank rate for the foreign exchange which was pretty good. I then used the card to actually charge something about an hour after I used the ATM and the exchange rate was actually a tad better - don't know if that has to do with the fluctuation of the Mexican peso to the dollar - if there are fluctuations during the day - or it is consistently higher since I only used my card twice. The money comes out of the checking account which it needs to do for the waiving of the atm fees but I believe the no foreign exchange fees remains true for either kind of account.
#1735
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#1736
Join Date: Mar 2010
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I can't believe the vitriol and just wrong information about Schwab's policy on ATM fees (and other matters).
Here's their policy: If the fee is separately stated on your ATM receipt, they refund it. If it is not broken out, they do not refund it since there is not a convenient way to figure out what it is.
Here's their policy: If the fee is separately stated on your ATM receipt, they refund it. If it is not broken out, they do not refund it since there is not a convenient way to figure out what it is.
#1737
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: ORF
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Good luck! When I called about Citibank Brasil I got transferred around to a dozen different people. Finally a very aggressive lady came on the line, telling me I was damn lucky to be a Schwab client because of the 0% foreign exchange fee and that I should just accept that Schwab doesn't always fulfill it's promise of refunding all ATM fees. She said it was just too much work to attend to every single customer's individual problems and hinted that many of them would not be telling the truth anyway (I suppose she really meant that I could be one of them). She kept insisting that Citibank's fee was for foreign exchange, not use of the ATM. As it happened, I had the receipt the Citibank ATM printed out, clearing specifying the nature of the fee, and I read it to her. She finally gave in, and refunded the fee manually, but said she would note on my account that I had been told that there would be no more refunds of ATM fees under these circumstances.
#1738
Join Date: Apr 2010
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I thought using BofA ATM card at global alliance bank ATMs was supposed to be completely fee-free (and was told as much over the phone when I called BofA before leaving the USA) but I'm clearly getting charged 1% on each ATM transaction. Is that the way it's supposed to be?
#1739
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If one frequently visit certain countries for business/family reason it make sense to have bank card(atm) with local bank in local currency. One can also get credit cards in different currencies. I have AMEX and M/C in CDN, US and HK currencies.
A stash of Ben Franklin portraits is also handy to have.
A stash of Ben Franklin portraits is also handy to have.

