First Class Dying as FTers are only takers
Jul 20, 2012 | 8:37 am
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First Class Dying as FTers are only takers
Most travellers in first class on TATL flights are using points, so the airlines are switching to upgraded biz class.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...DS=first+class
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...DS=first+class
Jul 20, 2012 | 8:52 am
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Very surprised this has not happened earlier. Flew UA US-Asia in GF on an award ticket, and while it was enjoyable, I cannot see more than the ultra rich who would pay $7.5k for a one way ticket that lasts for 12 hours. Smart move, UA and AA.
Jul 20, 2012 | 8:59 am
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Moderator observation
There is already discussion in progress in the AA forum:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...rst-class.html
Will leave this thread open for now, but if similar threads appear in UA or other forums this one may have a short life.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...rst-class.html
Will leave this thread open for now, but if similar threads appear in UA or other forums this one may have a short life.
Jul 21, 2012 | 6:46 am
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Also, some cultures (business and social) are more willing to pay higher fares.
Finally, some airlines are subsidized by their nation for prestige purposes.
Jul 21, 2012 | 11:30 am
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It's been mentioned before, but a very rational reason for international F to exist is for people who normally fly private jets on domestic routes but the cost is prohibitive for international. I doubt the demand is enough to fill a whole lot of F cabins though.
Jul 21, 2012 | 1:38 pm
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I think international F will still exist but the routes it is on will be limited to where the paid demand is. Routes like JFK-LHR and LAX-HKG may survive bit others will not. We have already seen a trend towards this.
Jul 21, 2012 | 4:46 pm
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I just flew first to Narita on AA an out of Narita on JAL and there is no comparison of services of two. JAL was serving dom perignon and black caviar... AA didn't even have a tooth brush for us.
Jul 21, 2012 | 7:07 pm
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Jul 22, 2012 | 3:04 pm
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Jul 22, 2012 | 11:39 pm
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And yet LH recently introduced a new F-class product. It appears that F-class is here to stay at least in certain high-profile markets.
Jul 23, 2012 | 7:45 am
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Exactly. On some of these routes it will make sense to have a solid F product. Especiallly the Asian carriers where there seems to be better demand and a more solid product.
Jul 23, 2012 | 9:00 am
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I think there will always be a group of people that do not have a private jet but have no problems dropping 10-20K for an international flight.
I cannot imagine they would pay that money to fly AA or UA; they would pick one of the European or Asian airlines.
Jul 23, 2012 | 11:39 am
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but I understand they have fewer seats per flight.
I think there will always be a group of people that do not have a private jet but have no problems dropping 10-20K for an international flight.
I cannot imagine they would pay that money to fly AA or UA; they would pick one of the European or Asian airlines.
I think there will always be a group of people that do not have a private jet but have no problems dropping 10-20K for an international flight.
I cannot imagine they would pay that money to fly AA or UA; they would pick one of the European or Asian airlines.