AA Miles for $0.00072 per mile (AA Shopping) - NOT HONORED
Aug 31, 2011, 2:37 pm
#3361
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 12
Aug 31, 2011, 3:40 pm
#3363
In memoriam
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Chicago, IL (ORD), Phoenix AZ (PHX)
Programs: UA 1K 1.9MM, Starwood Platinum, a nothing in several others
Posts: 5,176
Considering their past blunders their attorney should go over every word they say with a fine legal comb.
Last edited by gfowler-ord-1k; Aug 31, 2011 at 4:11 pm
Aug 31, 2011, 4:03 pm
#3364
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: 60137
Posts: 10,498
Aug 31, 2011, 5:53 pm
#3365
Join Date: May 2011
Location: MSP
Programs: DL GM
Posts: 342
I got the 2500+2500 offer as well. Do I need to do anything to "accept" this offer, or will the first 2500 miles automatically post on my AA account within 10 days now that I have finally received an e-mail?
Aug 31, 2011, 5:56 pm
#3366
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 32
"Release of liability"? I assume you're not a lawyer. I can't conceive of the theory under which Cartera would legally owe you for this mistake. Have you ever, ever heard of a single instance where someone won a court case for a mistaken price of this magnitude?
Aug 31, 2011, 6:02 pm
#3367
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: SAT
Programs: AA EXP BA Gold, TK Gold, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond, AS 100K, QR PLT, SAS Gold, IHG Spire, AMR
Posts: 5,898
Some people are happy with the 2500 miles, over 150 of us are not. If you would like to fight it, understand what we are doing about it, come join us in our google group. email me your address and I will send you an invite
Aug 31, 2011, 6:15 pm
#3369
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: PDX/AUS
Programs: AA-UA-AS IHG-SPG-Carlson
Posts: 4,562
Yes.
Aug 31, 2011, 6:21 pm
#3370
Join Date: May 2011
Location: MSP
Programs: DL GM
Posts: 342
I'm not a contract lawyer, although I do recall from Contracts I that while typically mutual mistake, by both parties, is grounds to excuse a contract, unilateral mistake is also grounds for setting aside the contract if the mistaken party (Cartera) makes an error that the other party knows or should know/reasonably suspect is an error. It'd be a stretch for any court to determine that FTers had no suspicion that the 83k miles for $5 could be an error or mistake on Cartera's part.
In layman's terms, if the price seemed "too good to be true" enough that it was a pretty blatant error or glitch, you've got a unilateral mistake that is likely to be a valid defense.
Although I do salute the valiance of those holding out for the 83,000 miles.
In layman's terms, if the price seemed "too good to be true" enough that it was a pretty blatant error or glitch, you've got a unilateral mistake that is likely to be a valid defense.
Although I do salute the valiance of those holding out for the 83,000 miles.
Aug 31, 2011, 6:25 pm
#3371
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 2,905
LOL, awesome.
I assume you haven't read the FT T&C's, as multiple user names/handles are expressly prohibited. @:-)
I assume you haven't read the FT T&C's, as multiple user names/handles are expressly prohibited. @:-)
Aug 31, 2011, 6:28 pm
#3372
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 32
I'm not a contract lawyer, although I do recall from Contracts I that while typically mutual mistake, by both parties, is grounds to excuse a contract, unilateral mistake is also grounds for setting aside the contract if the mistaken party (Cartera) makes an error that the other party knows or should know/reasonably suspect is an error. It'd be a stretch for any court to determine that FTers had no suspicion that the 83k miles for $5 could be an error or mistake on Cartera's part.
In layman's terms, if the price seemed "too good to be true" enough that it was a pretty blatant error or glitch, you've got a unilateral mistake that is likely to be a valid defense.
Although I do salute the valiance of those holding out for the 83,000 miles.
In layman's terms, if the price seemed "too good to be true" enough that it was a pretty blatant error or glitch, you've got a unilateral mistake that is likely to be a valid defense.
Although I do salute the valiance of those holding out for the 83,000 miles.
To the person above who said "yes," I'd truly be interested in hearing about such a case.
EDIT: In case anyone cares about the underlying legal (or moral) issues, one major question here is whether the buyer reasonably believed that Verizon meant to offer $800+ worth of miles for a $5 purchase. The folks here were all talking about the big mistake at the Verizon store, and everyone was rushing to take advantage of it. Did any of you really believe that Verizon really intended to make the proffered deal?
Last edited by pdxflyerguy; Aug 31, 2011 at 6:53 pm
Aug 31, 2011, 6:30 pm
#3373
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Join Date: Dec 2007
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Did anyone get their money back from Verizon on their returns??? I have a $5 refund which is rediculous compared to what I paid. Even if this is just for the first order that was returned. Lemmie guess they charged $10 return shipping fee for refusing my package
Aug 31, 2011, 6:48 pm
#3374
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: RDU
Programs: A few
Posts: 5,499
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/3704669.stm
Of course this is in a different jurisdiction, there were far more wronged parties, and it was not so much a blatant error as a foolish promo. But heck it sure was "this magnitude" in fact it was much, much bigger
Aug 31, 2011, 6:49 pm
#3375
Join Date: Mar 2011
Programs: I was loyal to One Pass & Star Alliance before FT ... now I value all miles and programs
Posts: 219
Following Cartera's advice, I sent a message via the AAdvantage portal and provided them with my order info and I have not received a reply yet. It's been 5 days - anyone else in the same boat? I don't care for the 83K miles - I'm just looking for the bonus that everyone else seems to have been offered.