No this is something else... For example the dates isnt in that deal u mean and cph is wrong airport also

LOL no. I found it already.

If fare is gone then there is no much value anymore, and nothing to correct for the airline.
In any case, as long as you are not disclosing actual dump, and the price is gone, there is no reason to code whatsoever.

Otherwise, I must admit, it does look like trolling.

Exactly. OK coding for all of us in the learning process. But some pros may complain a bit :-)

In a ticket with two airlines mixed, does the first one always reports its check-in to the next airline electronically?

If so, are there any exceptions?

I'm asking this question in relation to skippable 1x and the EK fares I posted before.

happy to learn from you, fuyao. Could you please give a few specific examples on where I'm wrong, and maybe even say what's right?

Not always but I wouldn't bet on it. Too expensive try/mistake game.

Thanks. I will work on other finding other 1x/3x to dump this fare as the risk outweighs the reward.

This has been discussed numerous times on here. Skipping 1x is reckless and dangerous. Plus there is no need to even attempt it.

Yes, there are reports of skipped 1x. Yes, there are also reports of people getting 100% mileage credit on fares that should only credit 25%. And, sometimes, you get credit on two airlines for the exact same flights.

Airlines make mistakes too, but don't assume that the exception makes the rule.

If I can find the right fare I would be willing to roll the dice. If I get denied then It was like dropping $300-$500 in a casino. I think the hardest part would be the embarrassment at the ticket counter. But don't get me wrong, if I get fooled once, it would be the last time I play that slot machine. It's risky, but so is 3x's leveraged S&P ETF's, and I like playing those on volatile days.

I can see both sides of the argument but feel that the denied boarding outweighs anything else.

I hope this is not giving out too much information if so I will edit.

Has anyone skipped the soccer 1x before?

Oh boys, Ketchup Everywhere!!~~??##

I saw it on one specific date and that date is now gone. I said it all wrong I guess when I said that the fare is gone.

There might be more dates dates available to other countrys as well so therefore I must write it a bit cryptic.

The route was ARN/FRA/LAX and the beginning of journey was in the end on
mid-mars and the end of the journey was in the end of mars.

Happy hunting!

Not ITA'ble, right? Any hint on the OTA?
Thanks.

you are smart and you know that it is better to not discuss openly about the logic behind dump.
We did the same mistake on another place and now the toy is broken. It is good to share but at the same time you must avoid exposure (I'm talking in general).


Anyway your post is very good but it is difficult to prove it.
For example you wrote that EOE is important to apply 1x or 3x but it isn't completely true.

I have examples where I can easily apply 1x or 3x with eoe not permitted but it isn't an OTA mistake. In other words eoe permitted is important but it isn't mandatory.

I'm not so old in this game as other experts but I saw only one dump in two years which I can't exaplain. It was an 1x dump for an ST carrier (eoe not permitted). A lot of OTAs allowed this dump but I didn't manage to understand the logic behind.
So "MAYBE" you are right that "SOMETIMES" it is a completely OTA mistake but as I wrote it was just 1 example in 2 years!

Other times you can find a dump but the OTA will not issue the ticket.
For example there was VN dump. It worked on some OTAs but at the end it was unbookable because of fare rules (obviously it is my theory but at least I can prove it with fare rules).

If you try a couple of the famous you will find it.

Right. I'm sure that you know this OTA :)

Some low fare has been reported JNB-HKG $342, may be error or self dump, check that out guys.

Wasn't that discussed at €165ish?

ITA'ble for 698$. Still looking for OTA, though.

Edit: OTA'ble for 808$. Slightly different strike.

Anyone been successful in dumping the UA 2 for 1 ticket to MXP from NYC?

Is the Germany-China business fare still available?

Looks like the price has increased by several hundred.

It is a fixed price special but availability can change. It is still available... Check KLM.com

I'd rather not post this out here in the public.
But if you want to learn more and understand how everything works, look into how ita is pricing it (which systems they use etc.) and understand how bookings are done in the different GDSs and just a small give-a-way, fare rules are there for the agents so they know what is allowed and what is not.
Its not like there is someone sitting there and coding by reading the fare rules. How systems price things has nothing to do with the fare rules, in other words, the weather doesn't follow the weather report, its the other way around...

I still see availability ex- my county, even toward chinese Chicago, all flights with Le Blues. Only if I could finf how to trick it :(

There should be a wiki for the codes! Sometimes it's really difficult to follow but I'm up for the challenges!

Any clue on whether it is a 1x or 3x or both?

Thank you

That's very well said. ^^

Anyone been able to dump UA's 2/1 $400 NYC-MXP? Not looking for answer but whether possible. bf is $26 each way. Fare rules seem to allow it but cant find a workable 3x yet

C2-C3-C2/C2.5-C3-C2.5 on 2 different carriers

Possibly the construction has already been mentioned somewhere in the depths of this seemingly bottomless thread. But either I didn't notice it or I was incapable of deciphering the code. Also I feel reluctant to quote an ai price, which would seem high in comparison to all the low numbers flying around here. Still, for people that can use both flights, the construction could be interesting and not unlikely can also be improved on. If you have any idea how, please don't hesitate to pm me! :)

If you are willing to pay the price for a non-stop return flight from C2's colder regions to the land of the middle on a notoriously expensive carrier, you will only have to dish out about 100$ more for a classy carrier starting at the first civilisation to embark on a Hundred-Foot Journey and back. Feel free to explore further east, if you are willing to pay more.

I think the chance to find a 3x is pretty slim as the end-on-end is permitted only to specific carriers in area 1, 2 & 3.
Mostly, it will trigger a Y fare if you add anything outside of this specific carrier.

I could not find one either.:td:

Seems to be the EU based *A carriers and NH as far as I could see
Has to be a dump available on one of those!

The rules looked pretty impossible to me too and I couldn't find anything (of course, I'm not a pro either. But, purely as a learning moment, what criteria would a 3x need to meet in this case? Would it basically have to be either: on one of the named carriers in the named areas (1,2,3) which carrier (for whatever reason) did not/could not handle the YQ under the interline agreement? Or, on a carrier that had something misplaced in their rules (thinking back to earlier posts)? Or, something else? PM if need be, pls.

Ladies, gentlemen, fellow enthusiasts, we have made the big time. Fuel dumping has been mentioned in the WSJ! No links please, no need to trackback to them. Relevant text below, from the website of the WSJ, as posted Jan. 21, 2015 6:17 p.m. ET, listed under a section titled "TRICKS TO AVOID" (only including this much so as not to fall on the wrong side of the FT attribution guideline):

And in case you were wondering, my reaction is :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

I would remove this post. This brings even more heat to the subject.

No there should NOT! This thread is already ways too open.. :(

I agree. There are people who read this thread who we do not want to have read this thread and having a 'glossary' of codes would be very harmful, and would undo all the hard work the pro's have done over time to get us all this far.

I (and many others) managed to improve from a newbie by doing a lot of reading around (not just on FT) and experimenting, so why should another newbie not be able to do this? As you say, there are more than enough pointers in this thread alone.

Unfortunately there will always be a wave of new people who seem to think doing some basic work in reading the thread is too difficult despite the answers to their questions being there for all to see

As a matter of fact, there is unfortunately someone on a German and a Polish forum, selling a very handy "How To / Glossary". I just read a few pages of it and it does not contain all the "highly confidential" informatian [at least not the part I am aware of] but decodes not only "Big Apple". I really h@te such selfish people doing this crap for a few bucks. :td: