Oct 30, 2019, 12:19 pm
Last edit by: flylikelinz
Meetups
December:
31: STR-HEL (princesstravel, topperchris+1)
January:
1: HEL-CAN (princesstravel, topperchris+1)
9: CAN-HEL (princesstravel)
10: HEL-STR (princesstravel)
10 STR-HEL (beyounged)
11 HEL-CAN (beyounged)
12: CAN-HEL (topperchris+1)
13: HEL-STR (topperchris+1)
February:
02 CAN-HEL (beyounged)
03 HEL-STR (beyounged)
04: STR-HEL(jarza)
05: HEL-CAN (jarza)
09: CAN-HEL (jarza)
10: HEL-STR (jarza)
11: STR-HEL (Pabloco + MrsPabloco)
12: HEL-CAN (Pabloco + MrsPabloco)
18: AY1452 STR-HEL (ChocolateFactory)
18: AY97 HEL-CAN (ChocolateFactory)
21 STR-HEL (beyounged)
21: HAJ-HEL (nilsrtw)
22 HEL-CAN (beyounged, nilsrtw)
23: AY98 CAN-HEL (ChocolateFactory)
23: AY1453 HEL-STR (ChocolateFactory)
27: CAN-HEL (Pabloco + MrsPabloco)
28: HEL-STR (Pabloco + MrsPabloco)
March:
01: CAN-HEL (nilsrtw)
02: HEL-HAJ (nilsrtw)
06: AY1460 HAJ-HEL (ChocolateFactory)
07: AY97 HEL-CAN (ChocolateFactory)
15: AY98 CAN-HEL (ChocolateFactory)
16: AY1459 HEL-HAJ (ChocolateFactory)
19 CAN-HEL(beyounged)
20 HEL-HAJ (beyounged)
27 HAJ-HEL (beyounged)
28 HEL-CAN (beyounged)
April:
08: BLQ-HEL (sam2511, IrishStephen+3, mster+1,)
08: HEL-CAN (sam2511)
08: HEL-HKG (mster+1)
09: HEL-HKG (IrishStephen+3)
14: HKG-HEL (mster+1)
15: HEL-BLQ (mster+1, HypnoticSpector)
15: BLQ-HEL (mster+1)
15: HEL-HKG (mster+1)
15: HEL-CAN (HypnoticSpector)
17: STR-HEL (topperchris+1)
18: HEL-CAN (topperchris+1)
21: HKG-HEL-BLQ (sam2511 + beyounged, mster+1)
21: AY1452 STR-HEL (Nancy)
21: HKG-HEL (IrishStephen+3)
22: AY97 HEL-CAN (Nancy)
22: AY BLQ-HEL-HKG (piotrger, mster+1)
22: AY BLQ-HEL (dimitriyremerov+1)
22: HEL-HKG (NextWhiteDeath)
23: AY101 HEL-HKG (dimitriyremerov+1)
28: AY100 HKG-HEL (Nancy, piotrger, NextWhiteDeath)
28: AY102 HKG-HEL (mster+1)
29: AY1771 HEL-BLQ (Nancy, mster+1)
29: AY BLQ-HEL-HKG (NGX)
30: AY102 HKG-HEL (dimitriyremerov+1)
May:
02: AY1774 BLQ-HEL (Majuki)
03: AY101 HEL-HKG (Majuki)
03: CAN-HEL (topperchris+1)
04: HEL-STR (topperchris+1)
05: AY HKG-HEL (NGX)
06: BLQ-HEL (Carnaby, Calchas, Woodbinerich)
06: HEL-HKG (Carnaby, Calchas, Woodbinerich, NGX)
08: STR-HEL (justin1123)
09: BLQ-HEL (sydneyguy1234)
10: HEL-HKG (sydneyguy1234)
10: AY1458 HAJ-HEL (ChocolateFactory)
10: AY97 HEL-CAN (ChocolateFactory)
10: HKG-HEL (Calchas)
11: HEL-CAN (justin1123)
12: HKG-HEL (Woodbinerich)
12: CAN-HEL (HypnoticSpector)
13: AY100 HKG-HEL (Majuki)
13: BLQ-HEL-CAN (Danusa86)
13: AY1771 HEL-BLQ (Majuki, Woodbinerich)
13: AY1772 BLQ-HEL (MKBshaw, spiiker+1)
13: AY97 HEL-CAN (MKBshaw, spiiker+1)
15: HKG-HEL (Carnaby)
16: HEL-BLQ (Carnaby)
16: BLQ-HEL (surbitonflyer+1, HypnoticSpector, Isochronous)
17: AY 97 STR-CAN (Lizie)
17: AY98 CAN-HEL (ChocolateFactory)
17: AY1459 HEL-HAJ (ChocolateFactory)
17: HEL-HKG (surbitonflyer+1, HypnoticSpector, Isochronous)
19: AY98 CAN-HEL (MKBshaw, spiiker+1, Danusa86)
20: AY1771 HEL-BLQ (MKBshaw, spiiker+1, Danusa86);
21: STR-HEL (ICPUI, multivitamin, w00tzen, zumabeach)
22: AY97 HEL-CAN (multivitamin, w00tzen, ICPUI)
23: BLQ-HEL (joeyzzz)
23: HEL-CAN (zumabeach)
24: HEL-HKG (joeyzzz)
24: CAN-HEL (ICPUI)
25: HEL-STR (ICPUI)
26: HKG-HEL (surbitonflyer+1, sydneyguy1234)
27: AY1772 BLQ-HEL (skycruiserNL, flightgrabber)
27: AY101 HEL-HKG (skycruiserNL, flightgrabber)
27: HEL-BLQ (surbitonflyer+1, sydneyguy1234)
30: CAN-HEL (joeyzzz)
30: HEL-BLQ (joeyzzz)
30: BLQ-HEL (armouredant+1, seantheman)
31: HEL-HKG (armouredant+1, seantheman)
31: CAN-HEL (multivitamin, w00tzen)
June:
01: HEL-STR (multivitamin, w00tzen)
02: HKG-HEL (skycruiserNL)
02: CAN-HEL (justin1123)
03: BLQ-HEL (elpuerto)
03: HEL-HKG (elpuerto)
03: HEL-BLQ (skycruiserNL)
03: HEL-STR (justin1123)
09: HKG-HEL (elpuerto, seantheman)
10: HKG-HEL (armouredant+1)
10: HEL-BLQ (armouredant+1, seantheman)
10: BLQ-HEL (skycruiserNL)
10: HEL-CAN (skycruiserNL)
12: AY100 HKG-HEL (flightgrabber)
13: AY1773 HEL-BLQ (flightgrabber)
13: HEL-BLQ (elpuerto)
14: CAN-HEL (zumabeach)
15: HEL-HAJ (zumabeach)
16: CAN-HEL (skycruiserNL)
16: HKG-HEL (Isochronous, HypnoticSpector)
17: HEL-BLQ (skycruiserNL, Isochronous, HypnoticSpector)
18: STR-HEL (davem4, thebigben)
19: HEL-CAN (davem4, thebigben)
24: BLQ-HEL (GetSetJetSet)
24: HEL-CAN (GetSetJetSet, sluneckov)
25: CAN-HEL (davem4, thebigben,)
26: HEL-STR (davem4, thebigben)
28: CAN-HEL (sluneckov)
28: CAN-HEL (GetSetJetSet)
September:
18: STR-HEL (kiez)
19: HEL-CAN (kiez)
26: CAN-HEL (kiez)
26: HEL-STR (kiez)
30: BLQ-HEL (davistev)
30: HEL-HKG (davistev)
October:
07: HKG-HEL (davistev)
07: HEL-BLQ (davistev)
November:
04: DUS-HEL (kevinflyaway+1)
04: HEL-HKG (kevinflyaway+1)
08: HKG-HEL (kevinflyaway+1)
08: HEL-DUS (kevinflyaway+1)
February 2023
24: ZRH-HEL (flylikelinz+1)
24: HEL-HKG (flylikelinz+1)
March 2023
05: HKG-HEL (flylikelinz+1)
05: HEL-ZRH (flylikelinz+1)
December:
31: STR-HEL (princesstravel, topperchris+1)
January:
1: HEL-CAN (princesstravel, topperchris+1)
9: CAN-HEL (princesstravel)
10: HEL-STR (princesstravel)
10 STR-HEL (beyounged)
11 HEL-CAN (beyounged)
12: CAN-HEL (topperchris+1)
13: HEL-STR (topperchris+1)
February:
02 CAN-HEL (beyounged)
03 HEL-STR (beyounged)
04: STR-HEL(jarza)
05: HEL-CAN (jarza)
09: CAN-HEL (jarza)
10: HEL-STR (jarza)
11: STR-HEL (Pabloco + MrsPabloco)
12: HEL-CAN (Pabloco + MrsPabloco)
18: AY1452 STR-HEL (ChocolateFactory)
18: AY97 HEL-CAN (ChocolateFactory)
21 STR-HEL (beyounged)
21: HAJ-HEL (nilsrtw)
22 HEL-CAN (beyounged, nilsrtw)
23: AY98 CAN-HEL (ChocolateFactory)
23: AY1453 HEL-STR (ChocolateFactory)
27: CAN-HEL (Pabloco + MrsPabloco)
28: HEL-STR (Pabloco + MrsPabloco)
March:
01: CAN-HEL (nilsrtw)
02: HEL-HAJ (nilsrtw)
06: AY1460 HAJ-HEL (ChocolateFactory)
07: AY97 HEL-CAN (ChocolateFactory)
15: AY98 CAN-HEL (ChocolateFactory)
16: AY1459 HEL-HAJ (ChocolateFactory)
19 CAN-HEL(beyounged)
20 HEL-HAJ (beyounged)
27 HAJ-HEL (beyounged)
28 HEL-CAN (beyounged)
April:
08: BLQ-HEL (sam2511, IrishStephen+3, mster+1,)
08: HEL-CAN (sam2511)
08: HEL-HKG (mster+1)
09: HEL-HKG (IrishStephen+3)
14: HKG-HEL (mster+1)
15: HEL-BLQ (mster+1, HypnoticSpector)
15: BLQ-HEL (mster+1)
15: HEL-HKG (mster+1)
15: HEL-CAN (HypnoticSpector)
17: STR-HEL (topperchris+1)
18: HEL-CAN (topperchris+1)
21: HKG-HEL-BLQ (sam2511 + beyounged, mster+1)
21: AY1452 STR-HEL (Nancy)
21: HKG-HEL (IrishStephen+3)
22: AY97 HEL-CAN (Nancy)
22: AY BLQ-HEL-HKG (piotrger, mster+1)
22: AY BLQ-HEL (dimitriyremerov+1)
22: HEL-HKG (NextWhiteDeath)
23: AY101 HEL-HKG (dimitriyremerov+1)
28: AY100 HKG-HEL (Nancy, piotrger, NextWhiteDeath)
28: AY102 HKG-HEL (mster+1)
29: AY1771 HEL-BLQ (Nancy, mster+1)
29: AY BLQ-HEL-HKG (NGX)
30: AY102 HKG-HEL (dimitriyremerov+1)
May:
02: AY1774 BLQ-HEL (Majuki)
03: AY101 HEL-HKG (Majuki)
03: CAN-HEL (topperchris+1)
04: HEL-STR (topperchris+1)
05: AY HKG-HEL (NGX)
06: BLQ-HEL (Carnaby, Calchas, Woodbinerich)
06: HEL-HKG (Carnaby, Calchas, Woodbinerich, NGX)
08: STR-HEL (justin1123)
09: BLQ-HEL (sydneyguy1234)
10: HEL-HKG (sydneyguy1234)
10: AY1458 HAJ-HEL (ChocolateFactory)
10: AY97 HEL-CAN (ChocolateFactory)
10: HKG-HEL (Calchas)
11: HEL-CAN (justin1123)
12: HKG-HEL (Woodbinerich)
12: CAN-HEL (HypnoticSpector)
13: AY100 HKG-HEL (Majuki)
13: BLQ-HEL-CAN (Danusa86)
13: AY1771 HEL-BLQ (Majuki, Woodbinerich)
13: AY1772 BLQ-HEL (MKBshaw, spiiker+1)
13: AY97 HEL-CAN (MKBshaw, spiiker+1)
15: HKG-HEL (Carnaby)
16: HEL-BLQ (Carnaby)
16: BLQ-HEL (surbitonflyer+1, HypnoticSpector, Isochronous)
17: AY 97 STR-CAN (Lizie)
17: AY98 CAN-HEL (ChocolateFactory)
17: AY1459 HEL-HAJ (ChocolateFactory)
17: HEL-HKG (surbitonflyer+1, HypnoticSpector, Isochronous)
19: AY98 CAN-HEL (MKBshaw, spiiker+1, Danusa86)
20: AY1771 HEL-BLQ (MKBshaw, spiiker+1, Danusa86);
21: STR-HEL (ICPUI, multivitamin, w00tzen, zumabeach)
22: AY97 HEL-CAN (multivitamin, w00tzen, ICPUI)
23: BLQ-HEL (joeyzzz)
23: HEL-CAN (zumabeach)
24: HEL-HKG (joeyzzz)
24: CAN-HEL (ICPUI)
25: HEL-STR (ICPUI)
26: HKG-HEL (surbitonflyer+1, sydneyguy1234)
27: AY1772 BLQ-HEL (skycruiserNL, flightgrabber)
27: AY101 HEL-HKG (skycruiserNL, flightgrabber)
27: HEL-BLQ (surbitonflyer+1, sydneyguy1234)
30: CAN-HEL (joeyzzz)
30: HEL-BLQ (joeyzzz)
30: BLQ-HEL (armouredant+1, seantheman)
31: HEL-HKG (armouredant+1, seantheman)
31: CAN-HEL (multivitamin, w00tzen)
June:
01: HEL-STR (multivitamin, w00tzen)
02: HKG-HEL (skycruiserNL)
02: CAN-HEL (justin1123)
03: BLQ-HEL (elpuerto)
03: HEL-HKG (elpuerto)
03: HEL-BLQ (skycruiserNL)
03: HEL-STR (justin1123)
09: HKG-HEL (elpuerto, seantheman)
10: HKG-HEL (armouredant+1)
10: HEL-BLQ (armouredant+1, seantheman)
10: BLQ-HEL (skycruiserNL)
10: HEL-CAN (skycruiserNL)
12: AY100 HKG-HEL (flightgrabber)
13: AY1773 HEL-BLQ (flightgrabber)
13: HEL-BLQ (elpuerto)
14: CAN-HEL (zumabeach)
15: HEL-HAJ (zumabeach)
16: CAN-HEL (skycruiserNL)
16: HKG-HEL (Isochronous, HypnoticSpector)
17: HEL-BLQ (skycruiserNL, Isochronous, HypnoticSpector)
18: STR-HEL (davem4, thebigben)
19: HEL-CAN (davem4, thebigben)
24: BLQ-HEL (GetSetJetSet)
24: HEL-CAN (GetSetJetSet, sluneckov)
25: CAN-HEL (davem4, thebigben,)
26: HEL-STR (davem4, thebigben)
28: CAN-HEL (sluneckov)
28: CAN-HEL (GetSetJetSet)
September:
18: STR-HEL (kiez)
19: HEL-CAN (kiez)
26: CAN-HEL (kiez)
26: HEL-STR (kiez)
30: BLQ-HEL (davistev)
30: HEL-HKG (davistev)
October:
07: HKG-HEL (davistev)
07: HEL-BLQ (davistev)
November:
04: DUS-HEL (kevinflyaway+1)
04: HEL-HKG (kevinflyaway+1)
08: HKG-HEL (kevinflyaway+1)
08: HEL-DUS (kevinflyaway+1)
February 2023
24: ZRH-HEL (flylikelinz+1)
24: HEL-HKG (flylikelinz+1)
March 2023
05: HKG-HEL (flylikelinz+1)
05: HEL-ZRH (flylikelinz+1)
[PREM FARE GONE] OW - AY BLQ-CAN 470 euro
Jun 24, 2022, 1:24 am
#1321
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: YVR/LAX/PVG/TPE
Posts: 760
beyounged, try EU daytime.
I called 8am Eastern (+1 800 numbers) to make my changes back in May.
Webchat EU overnight was utter useless, wanted to reprice the entire ticket using today's fare even for an invol.
CN call center was also useless, will only rebook for like-to-like routings.
HKG being cancelled for Jun and Jul is key.
"Just say get me to Asia (SIN), i can find my own way into HKG"
For the record, HKG is now ONLY 7 days hotel jail at your expense
I called 8am Eastern (+1 800 numbers) to make my changes back in May.
Webchat EU overnight was utter useless, wanted to reprice the entire ticket using today's fare even for an invol.
CN call center was also useless, will only rebook for like-to-like routings.
HKG being cancelled for Jun and Jul is key.
"Just say get me to Asia (SIN), i can find my own way into HKG"
For the record, HKG is now ONLY 7 days hotel jail at your expense
I was almost there until the last agent was stopped by the back office. I believe since the russian space closure they have gotten stricter and more detailed about Asia reroutings. Now hope my Nov ones get cancelled again because I have no faith if HKG will ever open up...
Aug 20, 2022, 4:40 am
#1322
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 170
has anyone tried to change dates for this ticket recently? tried chat and calling, but agents have said we can either (i) change to -2/+7 days, or (ii) get a refund. they would not be able to change it to 2023 even if we paid a fare difference, because apparently a supervisor (according to the call centre agent) said that the ticket was 3 years old and cannot be changed again.
any advice would be greatly appreciated!
any advice would be greatly appreciated!
Sep 18, 2022, 1:20 am
#1323
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Amsterdam, The Netherlands
Posts: 568
Same result here. "Your ticket has been changed 7 times since 2019, we can only give a full refund" and another answer "You already accepted the cancellation/rebooking, we cannot change anything". Obviously that's not in line with the European law and untrue.
On the other hand, it seems HKG announces its opening later this week: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ek-report-says
On the other hand, it seems HKG announces its opening later this week: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ek-report-says
Last edited by Travel-Quinten; Sep 18, 2022 at 1:32 am
Sep 18, 2022, 3:32 am
#1324
Ambassador, Hong Kong and Macau
Join Date: May 2009
Location: HKG
Programs: Non-top tier Asia Miles member
Posts: 19,803
On the other hand, it seems HKG announces its opening later this week: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ek-report-says
Medical surveillance still means no entry to any restaurant or bar. Visitors are supposed to return to hotel and eat room service/Deliveroo/Foodpanda for every meal.
Pre- and post-arrival testing will still be in effect.
Last edited by percysmith; Sep 18, 2022 at 3:45 am
Oct 8, 2022, 4:58 pm
#1325
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: London
Posts: 17,007
Called both HKG and SYD helplines today. Good point is no wait on either phone call to speak to a real person, no crazy phone menu (just press 1 once), and no repeated announcement about "you can do this on your website". 
HKG person was willing to split the booking in half, so the other person can re-arrange without me, but wouldn't change the destination without emailing back office.
SYD person (who had a distinctly Finnish accent) called back office who told him no dice on a destination change, but happy to rebook for any other date.
I'll keep trying...
HKG person was willing to split the booking in half, so the other person can re-arrange without me, but wouldn't change the destination without emailing back office.
SYD person (who had a distinctly Finnish accent) called back office who told him no dice on a destination change, but happy to rebook for any other date.
I'll keep trying...
Oct 9, 2022, 7:32 am
#1326
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 175
Just tried two agents from the chat box. First said -2/+2 and the other said -2/+7 seems they put in random numbers here.
will try tomorrow again, as somebody mentioned weekdays better.
good luck
will try tomorrow again, as somebody mentioned weekdays better.
good luck
Called both HKG and SYD helplines today. Good point is no wait on either phone call to speak to a real person, no crazy phone menu (just press 1 once), and no repeated announcement about "you can do this on your website".
HKG person was willing to split the booking in half, so the other person can re-arrange without me, but wouldn't change the destination without emailing back office.
SYD person (who had a distinctly Finnish accent) called back office who told him no dice on a destination change, but happy to rebook for any other date.
I'll keep trying...
HKG person was willing to split the booking in half, so the other person can re-arrange without me, but wouldn't change the destination without emailing back office.
SYD person (who had a distinctly Finnish accent) called back office who told him no dice on a destination change, but happy to rebook for any other date.
I'll keep trying...
Oct 9, 2022, 7:50 am
#1327
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 11,587
Same result here. "Your ticket has been changed 7 times since 2019, we can only give a full refund" and another answer "You already accepted the cancellation/rebooking, we cannot change anything". Obviously that's not in line with the European law and untrue.
On the other hand, it seems HKG announces its opening later this week: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ek-report-says
On the other hand, it seems HKG announces its opening later this week: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ek-report-says
Have you got any case law to back this up? Or are you relying only on the primary "Rebook at later date" Article 8 provision?
Oct 9, 2022, 8:17 am
#1328
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: London
Posts: 17,007
Tried another call centre and the webchat. Each time it goes to back office. Now the helpdesk has started disconnecting me for asking difficult questions. 
But I haven't heard anyone tell me about a +2/+7 rule.
But I haven't heard anyone tell me about a +2/+7 rule.
Oct 9, 2022, 9:10 am
#1329
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: London
Posts: 17,007
Ok, I found their advice to agents -- which might not be the advice they follow in house, but is probably pretty close. It is pretty adamant about no destination change, and that's the level of pushback I've received at every stage. So I may give up on trying to reroute and reschedule it +1 year again ...
Oct 16, 2022, 10:31 am
#1330
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 175
Ok, I found their advice to agents -- which might not be the advice they follow in house, but is probably pretty close. It is pretty adamant about no destination change, and that's the level of pushback I've received at every stage. So I may give up on trying to reroute and reschedule it +1 year again ...
Oct 18, 2022, 5:58 pm
#1331
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 3
After I wanted to cancel today, I'm now thinking about flying off this deal. Does anyone know if I can stay at the booked hotel if I test positive during my stay or do I have to go to a quarantine facility? The latter would of course be a no go. Can I actually book any hotel for the first 3 days or only special ones? And do I also have to present a test when departing from Hong Kong on the inbound journey or is the full vaccination sufficient? I've seen conflicting statements about this online
Thx
Oct 23, 2022, 2:53 pm
#1332
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 175
- For inbound persons who are tested positive by nucleic acid tests or RATs, their Vaccine Pass will be converted to a Red Code. Their isolation arrangements will be aligned with that for local cases.
Meaning no need to go to isolation facility, as long as you have private spaces (toilet included) for recovery.
Same here.
After I wanted to cancel today, I'm now thinking about flying off this deal. Does anyone know if I can stay at the booked hotel if I test positive during my stay or do I have to go to a quarantine facility? The latter would of course be a no go. Can I actually book any hotel for the first 3 days or only special ones? And do I also have to present a test when departing from Hong Kong on the inbound journey or is the full vaccination sufficient? I've seen conflicting statements about this online
Thx
After I wanted to cancel today, I'm now thinking about flying off this deal. Does anyone know if I can stay at the booked hotel if I test positive during my stay or do I have to go to a quarantine facility? The latter would of course be a no go. Can I actually book any hotel for the first 3 days or only special ones? And do I also have to present a test when departing from Hong Kong on the inbound journey or is the full vaccination sufficient? I've seen conflicting statements about this online
Thx
Nov 24, 2022, 7:46 am
#1333
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: UK
Programs: DIAMOND in Life, but BA Gold, FB Plat
Posts: 37
Just want to say big Thanks to everyone with advice and guidance: bought ticket STR-CAN, then changed TXL-HKG and actually travelled a few weeks ago LHR-HEL-SIN return on Finnair. New Finnair A350, interesting product. Avios posted after 5 days.