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December:
31: STR-HEL (princesstravel, topperchris+1)

January:
1: HEL-CAN (princesstravel, topperchris+1)
9: CAN-HEL (princesstravel)
10: HEL-STR (princesstravel)
10 STR-HEL (beyounged)
11 HEL-CAN (beyounged)
12: CAN-HEL (topperchris+1)
13: HEL-STR (topperchris+1)

February:
02 CAN-HEL (beyounged)
03 HEL-STR (beyounged)
04: STR-HEL(jarza)
05: HEL-CAN (jarza)
09: CAN-HEL (jarza)
10: HEL-STR (jarza)
11: STR-HEL (Pabloco + MrsPabloco)
12: HEL-CAN (Pabloco + MrsPabloco)
18: AY1452 STR-HEL (ChocolateFactory)
18: AY97 HEL-CAN (ChocolateFactory)
21 STR-HEL (beyounged)
21: HAJ-HEL (nilsrtw)
22 HEL-CAN (beyounged, nilsrtw)
23: AY98 CAN-HEL (ChocolateFactory)
23: AY1453 HEL-STR (ChocolateFactory)
27: CAN-HEL (Pabloco + MrsPabloco)
28: HEL-STR (Pabloco + MrsPabloco)

March:
01: CAN-HEL (nilsrtw)
02: HEL-HAJ (nilsrtw)
06: AY1460 HAJ-HEL (ChocolateFactory)
07: AY97 HEL-CAN (ChocolateFactory)
15: AY98 CAN-HEL (ChocolateFactory)
16: AY1459 HEL-HAJ (ChocolateFactory)
19 CAN-HEL(beyounged)
20 HEL-HAJ (beyounged)
27 HAJ-HEL (beyounged)
28 HEL-CAN (beyounged)

April:
08: BLQ-HEL (sam2511, IrishStephen+3, mster+1,)
08: HEL-CAN (sam2511)
08: HEL-HKG (mster+1)
09: HEL-HKG (IrishStephen+3)
14: HKG-HEL (mster+1)
15: HEL-BLQ (mster+1, HypnoticSpector)
15: BLQ-HEL (mster+1)
15: HEL-HKG (mster+1)
15: HEL-CAN (HypnoticSpector)
17: STR-HEL (topperchris+1)
18: HEL-CAN (topperchris+1)
21: HKG-HEL-BLQ (sam2511 + beyounged, mster+1)
21: AY1452 STR-HEL (Nancy)
21: HKG-HEL (IrishStephen+3)
22: AY97 HEL-CAN (Nancy)
22: AY BLQ-HEL-HKG (piotrger, mster+1)
22: AY BLQ-HEL (dimitriyremerov+1)
22: HEL-HKG (NextWhiteDeath)
23: AY101 HEL-HKG (dimitriyremerov+1)
28: AY100 HKG-HEL (Nancy, piotrger, NextWhiteDeath)
28: AY102 HKG-HEL (mster+1)
29: AY1771 HEL-BLQ (Nancy, mster+1)
29: AY BLQ-HEL-HKG (NGX)
30: AY102 HKG-HEL (dimitriyremerov+1)

May:
02: AY1774 BLQ-HEL (Majuki)
03: AY101 HEL-HKG (Majuki)
03: CAN-HEL (topperchris+1)
04: HEL-STR (topperchris+1)
05: AY HKG-HEL (NGX)
06: BLQ-HEL (Carnaby, Calchas, Woodbinerich)
06: HEL-HKG (Carnaby, Calchas, Woodbinerich, NGX)
08: STR-HEL (justin1123)
09: BLQ-HEL (sydneyguy1234)
10: HEL-HKG (sydneyguy1234)
10: AY1458 HAJ-HEL (ChocolateFactory)
10: AY97 HEL-CAN (ChocolateFactory)
10: HKG-HEL (Calchas)
11: HEL-CAN (justin1123)
12: HKG-HEL (Woodbinerich)
12: CAN-HEL (HypnoticSpector)
13: AY100 HKG-HEL (Majuki)
13: BLQ-HEL-CAN (Danusa86)
13: AY1771 HEL-BLQ (Majuki, Woodbinerich)
13: AY1772 BLQ-HEL (MKBshaw, spiiker+1)
13: AY97 HEL-CAN (MKBshaw, spiiker+1)
15: HKG-HEL (Carnaby)
16: HEL-BLQ (Carnaby)
16: BLQ-HEL (surbitonflyer+1, HypnoticSpector, Isochronous)
17: AY 97 STR-CAN (Lizie)
17: AY98 CAN-HEL (ChocolateFactory)
17: AY1459 HEL-HAJ (ChocolateFactory)
17: HEL-HKG (surbitonflyer+1, HypnoticSpector, Isochronous)
19: AY98 CAN-HEL (MKBshaw, spiiker+1, Danusa86)
20: AY1771 HEL-BLQ (MKBshaw, spiiker+1, Danusa86);
21: STR-HEL (ICPUI, multivitamin, w00tzen, zumabeach)
22: AY97 HEL-CAN (multivitamin, w00tzen, ICPUI)
23: BLQ-HEL (joeyzzz)
23: HEL-CAN (zumabeach)
24: HEL-HKG (joeyzzz)
24: CAN-HEL (ICPUI)
25: HEL-STR (ICPUI)
26: HKG-HEL (surbitonflyer+1, sydneyguy1234)
27: AY1772 BLQ-HEL (skycruiserNL, flightgrabber)
27: AY101 HEL-HKG (skycruiserNL, flightgrabber)
27: HEL-BLQ (surbitonflyer+1, sydneyguy1234)

30: CAN-HEL (joeyzzz)
30: HEL-BLQ (joeyzzz)
30: BLQ-HEL (armouredant+1, seantheman)
31: HEL-HKG (armouredant+1, seantheman)
31: CAN-HEL (multivitamin, w00tzen)

June:
01: HEL-STR (multivitamin, w00tzen)
02: HKG-HEL (skycruiserNL)
02: CAN-HEL (justin1123)
03: BLQ-HEL (elpuerto)
03: HEL-HKG (elpuerto)
03: HEL-BLQ (skycruiserNL)
03: HEL-STR (justin1123)
09: HKG-HEL (elpuerto, seantheman)
10: HKG-HEL (armouredant+1)
10: HEL-BLQ (armouredant+1, seantheman)
10: BLQ-HEL (skycruiserNL)
10: HEL-CAN (skycruiserNL)
12: AY100 HKG-HEL (flightgrabber)
13: AY1773 HEL-BLQ (flightgrabber)
13: HEL-BLQ (elpuerto)
14: CAN-HEL (zumabeach)
15: HEL-HAJ (zumabeach)
16: CAN-HEL (skycruiserNL)
16: HKG-HEL (Isochronous, HypnoticSpector)
17: HEL-BLQ (skycruiserNL, Isochronous, HypnoticSpector)
18: STR-HEL (davem4, thebigben)
19: HEL-CAN (davem4, thebigben)
24: BLQ-HEL (GetSetJetSet)
24: HEL-CAN (GetSetJetSet, sluneckov)
25: CAN-HEL (davem4, thebigben,)
26: HEL-STR (davem4, thebigben)
28: CAN-HEL (sluneckov)
28: CAN-HEL (GetSetJetSet)

September:
18: STR-HEL (kiez)
19: HEL-CAN (kiez)
26: CAN-HEL (kiez)
26: HEL-STR (kiez)
30: BLQ-HEL (davistev)
30: HEL-HKG (davistev)

October:
07: HKG-HEL (davistev)
07: HEL-BLQ (davistev)

November:
04: DUS-HEL (kevinflyaway+1)
04: HEL-HKG (kevinflyaway+1)
08: HKG-HEL (kevinflyaway+1)
08: HEL-DUS (kevinflyaway+1)

February 2023
24: ZRH-HEL (flylikelinz+1)
24: HEL-HKG (flylikelinz+1)

March 2023
05: HKG-HEL (flylikelinz+1)
05: HEL-ZRH (flylikelinz+1)

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Jul 16, 2020, 9:18 am

#1111

HypnoticSpecter

Join Date: Jan 2016

Posts: 175

Quote:

Originally Posted by armouredant

You can move your flight as many times as you like, as long as you return before the end of November.

thanks for your advice, and if the flight was cancelled can I assume I can change to May 2021?

—from finnair website—
IF YOUR FLIGHT ON/AFTER 1 JULY IS CANCELLED

When your flight is on the list of cancelled routes or you have received a message of a flight cancellation, these are your options:

You can change your travel dates until 31 May 2021 without a change fee via Manage booking. If you can’t make the change yourself online, our customer service will assist you. You can change your travel dates if
- You made your booking via Finnair channels.
- You have a Finnair operated and marketed flight.
- There are available seats on your chosen new flight in the same cabin class.
- You make the change before the departure of your original flight. You need to select new dates for your travel when making the change.

Jul 16, 2020, 10:44 am

#1112

sydneyguy1234

Join Date: Nov 2010

Location: Sydney

Programs: NH AMC, EY Guest Silver,MPC GO

Posts: 210

Quote:

Originally Posted by armouredant

You can move your flight as many times as you like, as long as you return before the end of November.

Can it still rebook for a fligjt that suppose to happen in early oct?

Jul 16, 2020, 11:55 am

#1113

armouredant

Join Date: Aug 2015

Location: London, UK

Programs: BA GGL

Posts: 1,578

Quote:

Originally Posted by sydneyguy1234

Can it still rebook for a fligjt that suppose to happen in early oct?

This week I rebooked a September flight into October.

Jul 16, 2020, 9:11 pm

#1114

PABLOCO

Join Date: Jun 2015

Programs: LAN COMODORO

Posts: 522

Hi guys, i dont know if anyone can give me a hand. We ask for a refund to Expedia on the 28th of January, to this date we havent had any news. We have try to contact them by email and Twitter, but each time we have a different answer. I have been able to talk to any agent on English, i dont know if there is any number i can reach or if anyone here speak german and may give me a helping hand.

Thanks

Jul 17, 2020, 5:38 am

#1115

armouredant

Join Date: Aug 2015

Location: London, UK

Programs: BA GGL

Posts: 1,578

Quote:

Originally Posted by PABLOCO

I managed to speak to an operator a while ago by calling 02037880445 and hitting zero, not sure if this is still a thing.

Jul 17, 2020, 7:39 am

#1116

NextWhiteDeath

Join Date: Mar 2019

Location: DK

Programs: A3 Gold, BA Silver

Posts: 869

Quote:

Originally Posted by armouredant

I managed to speak to an operator a while ago by calling 02037880445 and hitting zero, not sure if this is still a thing.

Odd are that it should work. Hitting zero on the answering machine defaults them to send you to a operator.
If I remember correctly it was intended for elder people who didn't know what to press and just hit zero. Or I might be a bit off on the reasons why but the results is usually a connection to an operator

Jul 17, 2020, 11:37 am

#1117

PABLOCO

Join Date: Jun 2015

Programs: LAN COMODORO

Posts: 522

Quote:

Originally Posted by armouredant

I managed to speak to an operator a while ago by calling 02037880445 and hitting zero, not sure if this is still a thing.

That pone will be 49 020.....? Just try to call them that way and nothing, also try 49 20..... but nothing

Last edited by PABLOCO; Jul 17, 2020 at 11:43 am

Jul 17, 2020, 11:43 am

#1118

beyounged

Join Date: Feb 2016

Location: YVR/LAX/PVG/TPE

Posts: 759

also fun fact, a lot of those bots that actively listen to your voice inputs like "award redemption" or "flight change", you can yell profanities and be automatically connected to a human operator. Not sure if it will work in German though!

Jul 18, 2020, 3:36 am

#1119

Calchas

FlyerTalk Evangelist

Join Date: Mar 2013

Location: London

Posts: 17,007

Quote:

Originally Posted by PABLOCO

That pone will be 49 020.....? Just try to call them that way and nothing, also try 49 20..... but nothing

Looks like a UK telephone number to me.

Internationally that would translate to +44 2037880445

If you don't have a plus key on your keypad, how you dial +44 from your country is country specific.

Jul 18, 2020, 4:08 am

#1120

ChocolateFactory

Join Date: Aug 2015

Location: DXB

Programs: Marriott Titanium Elite, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond, BA Silver, A3 Gold, Sixt Diamond

Posts: 2,811

I still have a bunch of CAN and HKG flights booked, the earliest one scheduled to depart next week (obviously cancelled).
I’ve put off rebooking them yet another time for long enough. What are my options now? Is there any possibility to fly to HKG or CAN this year at all? Should I just move everything to next year?
My plan was to accrue lots of AS miles, but I guess if I move the bookings to next year, there’s a high risk they’ll have devalued the program?

Jul 18, 2020, 10:05 am

#1121

Granite64

Join Date: Feb 2014

Programs: Star Alliance Gold, AS MVP

Posts: 990

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChocolateFactory

They still allow to change destinations? I'm in the same boat.., flight to PVG in september. I have no intention to visit PVG itself (although I love PVG

) but fellow forum member Moondog told me I will need a PRC visa even for making a transit in PVG (which i'm not gonna get)..

Jul 18, 2020, 5:31 pm

#1122

Granite64

Join Date: Feb 2014

Programs: Star Alliance Gold, AS MVP

Posts: 990

I contacted AY today via chat, and it turns out that they 'tricked' us. My original flight to CAN ( I class) back in April was cancelled and I rebooked that free of charge to PVG (in D class).
(My flight to PVG is in September, and the prospects for transiting or getting a visa for China are not good..)

Now it turns out that these are indeed D class flights, but actually they are 'rebranded' I class flights...

This is what the rep on the chat said..

When I asked if I had a D class fare:

'No, you have I class paid fare. Your ticket was changed involuntarily (free of charge) to the lowest availability in Business class, but fare rules, mileage collection, etc. is still according to your original I-class fare'

When I asked why it shows at D class in my confirmation email and on the AY website:

'When we are doing exceptional changes, we could rebook to the lowest available fare in the same cabin. It was D in your case.'

When I asked that this meant that my flight was indeed a D class fare:

'No, this means that even though there was not availability in I-class for your requested new flights, we still agreed to rebook you without collecting the fare difference. Therefore the original I-class fare rules apply for your booking.

Jul 18, 2020, 5:55 pm

#1123

KARFA

Ambassador, British Airways; FlyerTalk Posting Legend

Join Date: Apr 2012

Location: Leeds, UK

Programs: BA GGL/CCR, GfL, HH Diamond

Posts: 42,977

The same fare rules remain based on the original fare. Your involuntary rebooking will always use the lowest selling class in the cabin which sometimes might not be I. However that doesn’t change the fare rules. Your booking fare rules haven’t change, there is no tricking here.

Jul 18, 2020, 6:28 pm

#1124

Granite64

Join Date: Feb 2014

Programs: Star Alliance Gold, AS MVP

Posts: 990

Quote:

Originally Posted by KARFA

I know it's not a real and intentional 'trick' (hence the ''), I do think they should have made this more clear during the rebooking process.

Anyway, I do think that AY has been very generous the way they handled all this; so I can't complain too much.

Last edited by Granite64; Jul 18, 2020 at 6:33 pm

Jul 18, 2020, 6:40 pm

#1125

beyounged

Join Date: Feb 2016

Location: YVR/LAX/PVG/TPE

Posts: 759

it will accrue at D class, other programs have no idea what original fare basis it is, so you are not being tricked, just "reaccommodated" ;P
of course no matter what you do, the fare rules when booking applies.

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