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Old Dec 31, 2018, 9:41 pm
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CAUTION - TURNAROUND
"One customer did have issues. Wang Guanran, who documents his travels on hktravelblog.com, had his plans to travel to New York on Wednesday cut short when he was prevented from flying by immigration officials in Vietnam... he was detained by Vietnamese immigration officials, who said it was illegal to return to his city of origin while in transit." - Source:SCMP, 2 January 2019
Also https://rapidtravelchai.boardingarea...-direct-turns/

Visa Information: check out the Vietnam visa/VOA thread in the Asia forum. You can get either a visa on arrival where you get the stamp on arrival) or a "looseleaf" visa in advance from a VN Consulate in the US (which allows you to go straight to the immigration queue). There are sometimes lines for the VOA stamp and so the loosleaf approach can save you some time.

Seat Assignments

per NWPlatinum below - Cathay blocks out all seats except for 2D for some reason. I never understood the reasoning behind this but in any event just contact them for a seat assignment and they’ll let you have your choice. They like to block out seats for people with bassinets and babies. But you can usually get 2A, which is the best see if you’re solo traveler. Just say I want seat 2A and I’ll move if requested at the airport (never was asked to move)

Basic Visa Options for US Citizens
1. One month, one entry
2. One month, multiple entries
3. Three months, one entry
4. Three months, multiple entries
5. One year, multiple entries

Everyone needs an e-visa approval before boarding if they will enter the country. (e.g. clear customs). Connecting flights - even on separate tickets - do not require a visa IF IF IF the connecting airline has a counter in the transit area. (The airline may have their own rules.) Going back to the same country is not allowed without clearing customs first.

Expect the visa check at your point of departure. (Computer will flag your ticket.) The actual stamp is received on arrival (in most cases). (There is also the possibility of a visa insert with no need to go to 'visa on arrival'.)


Official Site: Embassy of the Socialist Republic of Vietnam in the United States

Lounge Access (Access Requirements)
JFK - AA Flagship First (F Departure)
ORD - British Airways Club / First Lounge T5 (J / F departures). AA Flagship lounge T3 (logistics in this post)
BOS
SFO - CX Lounge Terminal A (F or J Departure)
YVR - CX Lounge Gate 67

HKG

HAN - Song Hong Lounge (KA) or ACV/NIA Business Lounge (KA)
DAD

Current status:
  • Deal is no longer active (can't book this anymore)
    • CX announced that they will honor all tickets! Tweet here. Facebook here.

Mainstream media coverage:



Post your trip dates and itinerary here:
Please use (+1) to denote you are in F and can guest someone (or more than 1 person) into the F lounges in HKG.


January:
1/9: KA 294 HAN-HKG - tonykline1947 (+1)
1/10: CX 888 HKG-YVR - tonykline1947 (+1)
1/18: KA 296 HAN-HKG - SOWK
1/19: CX 888 HKG-YVR - SOWK
1/21: KA 227 DAD-HKG - Governator
1/21: KA 227 DAD-HKG - usairchairman (+1)
1/21: CX 840 HKG-JFK - usairchairman (+1)
1/21: CX 846 HKG-JFK - Governator
1/22: CX 845 JFK-HKG - Governator
1/23: KA 220 HKG-DAD - Governator (won't fly this one)
1/23: CX5227 DAD-HKG rbAA
1/23: CX840 HKG-JFK rbAA (can guest at Wing FC or Pier FC as I have 5hrs+)
1/26: CX 227 DAD-HKG - Synd(+1)
1/26: CX 846 HKG-JFK - Synd(+1)
1/29 KA 227 DAD-HKG - miffSC
1/29 CX 846 HKG-JFK - miffSC
1/30: CX 831 JFK-HKG - Synd (+1)
1/30: CX 865 JFK - YVR - HKG - ss2k(+1) can guest someone at JFK Flagship dining (i think)


February:
2/1: CX 220 - HKG - DAD - Synd (+1) - will try not to fly this one
2/1: CX 220 - HKG - DAD - ss2k (+1) - will probably stay in DAD for couple of days if anyone wants to join
2/2: CX865 JFK-YVR-HKG rbAA (can guest at JFK AA FL FC)
2/3 - KA 227 - DAD-HKG - swgsword, Pochama
2/3 - CX 840 - HKG-JFK - Pochama
2/4 - CX 888 - HKG-YVR-JFK - swgsword (+1, also FL at JFK)
2/4: CX5220 HKG-DAD rbAA (tight connection :50 so no lounge time unless I misconnect)
2/10: CX 764 SGN-HKG - zebes
2/11: CX 806 HKG-ORD - zebes
2/15: CX 831 JFK-HKG - usairchairman (+1)
2/15: CX 812 HKG-BOS - AnttiV
2/16: KA 220 HKG-DAD - usairchairman (+1)
2/18 CX 872 HKG-SFO - princesakura (+1)
2/19: KA 296 HAN-HKG - IncaTrails
2/19: CX 812 HKG-BOS - IncaTrails
2/22: CX 811 BOS-HKG - AnttiV

March:
3/01: CX 807 ORD-HKG - zebes
3/01 CX ### HAN-HKG - billbligh (+3)
3/02 CX888 HKG-YVR (0100) billybligh(+3)
3/03: CX 767 HKG-SGN - zebes
3/03: CX 764 SGN-HKG - zebes
3/04: CX 806 HKG-ORD - zebes
3/05: CX1790 HAN-HKG - dordal
3/06: CX872 HKG-SFO - dordal
3/08: CX 873 SFO-HKG - princesakura
3/11: KA 223 DAD-HKG - SiempreBCNJFK
3/12: CX 888 HKG-YVR-JFK - SiempreBCNJFK
3/12: CX 865 YVR-HKG - SOWK
3/13: CX 1791 HKG-HAN - SOWK
3/14: CX 5227 DAD-HKG - Hudute
3/14: CX 840 HKG-JFK - Hudute
3/15: CX 5527 DAD-HKG - Frebay (+1)
3/15: CX 840 HKG-JFK - Frebay (+1)
3/15: CX 845 JFK-HKG - SiempreBCNJFK
3/16: KA 228 HKG-DAD - SiempreBCNJFK
3/17: KA 227 DAD-HKG - SiempreBCNJFK
3/17: CX 890 HKG-EWR - SiempreBCNJFK
3/18: CX 872 HKG-SFO - princesakura (+1)
3/20: CX ### HKG-JFK - tcormier (+2)
3/20: CX 888 HKG-(YVR)-JFK - captainstubing (+1)
3/22: CX 831 JFK-HKG - captainstubing
3/22: CX 840 HKG-JFK - jongesander (+1)
3/25: CX 899 EWR-HKG - SiempreBCNJFK
3/26: KA 226 HKG-DAD - SiempreBCNJFK
3/26: CX 845 JFK-HKG - swgsword
3/27: KA 220 HKG-DAD - swgsword (+1)
3/27: KA ### HAN-HKG - Mauibaby2008
3/27: CX ### HKG-JFK - Mauibaby2008
3/28: CX 766 SGN-HKG - SiempreBCNJFK
3/28: CX 846 HKG-JFK - SiempreBCNJFK
3/29: CX 5296 HAN-HKG - LHG
3/29: CX 872 HKG-SFO - LHG
3/29: CX 807 ORD-HKG - zebes
3/31: CX 767 HKG-SGN - zebes

April:

4/3 CX 845 JFK-HKG - miffSC
4/4 KA 220 HKG-DAD - miffSC
4/6 KA 294 HAN-HKG - frisbfreek
4/7 CX 830 HKG-JFK - frisbfreek (+1)
4/13: KA 294 HAN-HKG - bostonbali (+1)
4/13: KA 294 HAN-HKG - swgsword
4/14: CX 888 HKG-YVR-JFK bostonbali (+1)
4/14: CX 888 HKG-YVR-JFK swgsword (+1)
4/19: KA 298 HAN-HKG shek3112
4/19: CX 846 HKG-JFK shek3112 (+3)
4/19: CX 806 HKG-ORD Oshkosh105 (+1)
4/20: CX 807 ORD-HKG Oshkosh105
4/29: CX 845 JFK-HKG shek3112 (+3)
4/30: KA 299 HKG-HAN shek3112 (may change)
4/30: KA 221 DAD-HKG - driveswith (+1)

May:
5/1: CX 888 HKG-YVR - driveswith (+1)
5/1: CX 888 YVR-JFK - driveswith (+1)
5/8: CX 845 JFK-HKG - driveswith (+1)
5/8: KA 221 DAD-HKG - zip10001
5/8: CX 840 HKG-JFK - zip10001
5/10: CX 873 SFO-HKG - dordal
5/11: CX5297 HKG-HAN - dordal
5/11: KA 296 HAN-HKG - james_yuen (+1)
5/12: CX 888 HKG-YVR - james_yuen (+1)
5/12: CX 5294 HAN-HKG - dordal
5/13: CX 872 HKG-SFO - dordal
5/13: BA 28 HKG-LHR - driveswith (+1)
5/15 CX865 YVR-HKG - james_yuen (+1)
5/16 KA 299 HKG-HAN - james_yuen (+1)
5/19: CX 845 JFK-HKG - Frebay (+1)
5/20: CX 5224 HKG-DAD - Frebay (+1)
5/21: KA 296 HAN-HKG - AndrewT84
5/22: CX 872 HKG-SFO - AndrewT84
5/24: CX 811 BOS-HKG - IncaTrails
5/25: KA 297 HKG-HAN - IncaTrails
5/28: CX 764 SGN-HKG - JetSetDave
5/28: CX 858 HKG-SEA - JetSetDave
5/30: CX 841 JFK-HKG - zip10001
5/31: KA 224 HKG-DAD - zip10001
5/31: CX 5294 (KA) HAN-HKG maverikbc (+1)

June:
6/1: CX 888 HKG-YVR maverikbc (+1)
6/2: KA 221 DAD-HKG - sgan317 (+2)
6/2: CX 840 HKG-JFK - sgan317 (+2)
6/2: KA 221 DAD-HKG - greendx
6/2: CX 840 HKG-JFK - greendx
6/3: CX 888 HKG-JFK - JALOO5-Flyer
6/8: KA 296 HAN-HKG - Mrow (+1)
6/8: CX 846 HKG-JFK - Mrow (+1)
6/8: CX 766 SGN-HKG - Quanh79 (+3)
6/8: CX 846 HKG-JFK - Quanh79 (+3)
6/8: KA 296 HAN-HKG - UAPremierGuy
6/8: CX 840 HKG-JFK - UAPremierGuy
6/8: KA 221 DAD-HKG - Evianon
6/8: CX 840 HKG-JFK - Evianon (+1)
6/9: KA 294 DAD-HKG - Frebay (+1)
6/10: CX 872 HKG-SFO - Frebay (+1)
6/10: CX 845 JFK-HKG - UAPremierGuy
6/11: CX 845 JFK-HKG - Evianon
6/12: KA 220: HKG-DAD - Evianon
6/12: CX 841 JFK-HKG - Mrow (+1)
6/12: CX 845 JFK-HKG - Hudute
6/13: KA 299 HKG-HAN - Mrow (+1)
6/13: CX 5220 HKG-DAD - Hudute
6/17: KA 225 DAD-HKG - CruisingAlitiude47
6/18: CX 830 HKG-JFK - CruisingAlitiude47
6/22: KA 294 HAN-HKG - FormallyKnownAs (+1)
6/22: CX 830 HKG-YVR - FormallyKnownAs (+1)
6/22: CX 888 HKG-JFK - FormallyKnownAs (+1)
6/22: KA 221 DAD-HKG ZohyeahZ (+2)
6/22: CX 840 HKG-JFK ZohyeahZ (+2)
6/28: CX 865 JFK-HKG - greendx
6/30: KA 220 HKG-DAD - greendx

July:
7/3: CX 857 SEA-HKG - JetSetDave
7/4: CX 767 HKG-SGN - JetSetDave
7/4: KA 294 HAN-HKG - Majuki
7/4 CX 872 SFO-HKG - princesakura
7/5: CX 872 HKG-SFO - Majuki
7/5: KA 227 DAD-HKG - afirm (+1)
7/6: CX 888 HKG-YVR-JFK- afirm (+1)
7/7: CX 841 JFK-HKG - afirm (+1)
7/8: KA 224 HKG-DAD - afirm (+1)
7/8: KA 296 HAN-HKG - terryversay (+1)
7/8: CX 840 HKG-JFK - terryversay (+1)
7/8: CX 872 - HKG-SFO - princesakura
7/9: CX 841 JFK-HKG - JALOO5-Flyer
7/11: CX 873 SFO-HKG - AndrewT84
7/12: KA 297 HKG-HAN - AndrewT84
7/12: CX 845 JFK-HKG - CruisingAltitude47
7/13: KA 220 HKG-DAD - CruisingAltitude47
7/14: KA 221 DAD-HKG - nutty92 (+2)
7/14: CX 840 HKG-JFK - nutty92 (+2)
7/14: CX 1764 SGN-HKG - chitink (+2)
7/15: CX 806 HKG-ORD - chitink (+2)
7/17: CX 840 HKG-JFK - danfl44 (+1)
7/20: CX 865 JFK-HKG zOhYeahz (+2)
7/22: KA 224 HKG-DAD zOhYeahz (+2)
7/25: CX 841 JFK-HKG - danfl44 (+1)
7/27: CX ### JFK-HKG - tcormier (+2)
7/30: KA 221 DAD-HKG - driveswith (+1)
7/31: CX 888 HKG-YVR - driveswith (+1)
7/31: CX 888 YVR-JFK - driveswith (+1)

August:

8/5: KA 225 DAD-HKG - sriegert
8/6: CX 888 HKG-JFK - sriegert
8/6 KA 221 DAD-HKG - aradisc (+1)
8/7 CX 888 HKG-YVR-JFK - aradisc (+1)
8/7: KA 221/840 DAD-HKG-JFK Brituchenite
8/9: CX 845 JFK-HKG - Quanh79 (+1)
8/9: CX767 HKG-SGN - Quanh79 (+1)
8/10 CX 840 HKG-JFK - thefilipinotraveler (+1)
8/11 CX 841 JFK-HKG - driveswith (+1)
8/11 KA 294 DAD-HKG - pochi
8/12 KA 225 DAD-HKG - Dancrane (+1)
8/12 CX 888 HKG-JFK - pochi (+1)
8/13 CX 830 HKG-JFK - Dancrane (+1)
8/17 CX 851 SFO-HKG - princesakura
8/17 CX 841 JFK-HKG - pochi (+1)
8/17 KA 297 HKG-HAN - thefilipinotraveler (+1)
8/18 CX 845 JFK-YVR-HKG - swgsword
8/19 KA 299 HKG-HAN - swgsword (+1)
8/19 CX 841 JFK-HKG - Dancrane (+1)
8/20 KA 224 HKG-DAD - Dancrane (+1)
8/23 CX 845 JFK-HKG - sriegert
8/23 CX812 HKG-BOS - paul4471 (+2)
8/24 - KA 220 HKG-DAD - sriegert
8/24 CX1790/VN592 HAN-HKG ritesa (+1)
8/25 CX888 HKG-YVR ritesa (+1)
8/26 CX 872 HKG-SFO - princesakura
8/27 CX865 YVR-HKG ritesa (+1)
8/30: CX835 JFK-HKG - terryversay (+1)
8/30: CX830 HKG-JFK - JALOO5-Flyer (+1)
8/31: KA297 HKG-HAN - terryversay (+1)
8/30 KA299 HKG-HAN ritesa (+1)
8/30: CX865CX5/220 JFK-YVR-HKG-DAD Brituchenite
8/30: KA/CX ### HAN-HKG-JFK-DCA - GlobalNelson

September:
9/1: CX 766 SGN-HKG - quinzinho (+1)
9/1: AA 192 / CX 7686 HKG-LAX - quinzinho (+1)
9/1: AA 303 LAX-IAD - quinzinho (+1)
9/1: CX 873 SFO-HKG - Majuki
9/1: CX 1791 HKG-HAN - paul4471 (+2)
9/2: KA 297 HKG-HAN - Majuki
9/6: AA 1139 IAD-LAX - quinzinho (+1)
9/7: AA 193 / CX 7685 LAX-HKG - quinzinho (+1)
9/8: CX 767 HKG-SGN - quinzinho (+1)
9/7: KA 221 DAD-HKG - ChiefNWA
9/7: CX 840 HKG-JFK - ChiefNWA
9/9: VN592-CX840 HAN-HKG-JFK - Zebranz
9/14: KA296-CX810 HAN-HKG pschafer+1 in J
9/14: CX 851 SFO-HKG - princesakura
9/26: CX 764 SGN-HKG - Phrantic
9/27: CX 806 HKG-ORD - Phrantic
9/28: CX 845 JFK-HKG - Pochama
9/29: KA 220 HKG-DAD - Pochama
9/30: CX ### JFK-HKG - Mauibaby2008

October:
10/01: KA ### HKG-HAN - Mauibaby2008
10/05: CX855-KA299 YVR-HKG-HAN - pschafer+1 in J
10/08 CX5221 - CX890 DAD-HKG-EWR MCI777
10/10 CX841 - CX5224 JFK-HKG-DAD MCI777
10/10: CX865-KA297 JFK-HKG-HAN - Zebranz
10/11: CX 865 JFK-HKG - ChiefNWA
10/12: KA 220 HKG-DAD - ChiefNWA
10/12: CX 873 SFO-HKG - dordal
10/13: CX5299 HKG-HAN
10/15: VN594-CX840 SGN-HKG-JFK - Zebranz
10/16-17: KA221J/CX888A DAD-HKG-YVR-JFK - Shareholder
10/19 CX865 YVR-HKG maverikbc (+1)
10/20 CX1791 (VN) HKG-HAN maverikbc (+1)
10/25: CX/KA ### DCA-JFK-HKG-HAN - GlobalNelson
10/30: CX 831 JFK-HKG - SiempreBCNJFK
10/31: CX 721 HKG-SGN - SiempreBCNJFK

November:
11/1: CX 831 JFK-HKG - sgan317 (+2)
11/1: KA/CX ### HAN-HKG-YVR - GlobalNelson
11/2: KA 220 HKG-DAD - sgan317 (+2)
11/4-6: CX865A/KA220J (CX5220J) JFK-HKG-DAD - Shareholder
11/7: CX 807 ORD-HKG - chitink (+1)
11/7: CX841-CX799 JFK-HKG-SGN - Zebranz (changed due to CX Cxl CX845)
11/8: CX 721 HKG-SGN - chitink (+1)
11/8: CX 845 JFK-HKG - nutty92 (+2)
11/9: KA 228 HKG-DAD - nutty92 (+2)
11/11: KA296-CX872 HAN-HKG-SFO - Zebranz
11/12: CX 1764 SGN-HKG - chitink (+1)
11/13: CX 806 HKG-ORD - chitink (+1)
11/17: KA 227 DAD-HKG - Paul5795 (+1)
11/18: CX 872 HKG-SFO - Paul5795 (+1)
11/26: CX 807 ORD-HKG - chitink (+1)
11/26: CX873-KA295 SFO-HKG-HAN - Zebranz (might abandon KA295)
11/27: CX 721 HKG-SGN - chitink (+1)
11/29: KA296 HAN-HKG - JAeX
11/30: CX872 HKG-SFO - JAeX
11/30: KA 227 DAD-HKG-Tennislover9
11/30: CX 846 HKG-JFK-Tennislover9
11/30: CX726 SGN-HKG- stephem (+4)
11/30: CX858 HKG-SEA- stephem (+4)

December:
12/02: HKG-SFO CX872- uclabruin82
12/14: KA 294 HAN-HKG - calcjr23 (+1)
12/15: CX 830 HKG-JFK - calcjr23 (+1)
12/15: CX873 SFO-HKG - Paul5795
12/17: KA226 HKG-DAD - Paul5795
12/18: CX 807 ORD-HKG - Phrantic
12/19: CX 865 YVR-HKG - FormallyKnownAs (+1)
12/19: CX 841 JFK-HKG - FormallyKnownAs (+1)
12/19: CX 865 JFK-YVR - calcjr23 (+1)
12/20: CX 865 YVR-HKG - calcjr23 (+1)
12/20: KA 295 HKG-HAN - FormallyKnownAs (+1) may abandon
12/20: CX 767 HKG-SGN - Phrantic
12/20: CX 845 JFK-HKG-Tennislover9
12/20: CX857 SEA-HKG- stephem (+4)
12/21: CX799 HKG-SGN- stephem (+4)
12/21: KA 228 HKG-DAD-Tennislover9 (may abandon)
12/21: KA 297 HKG-HAN - calcjr23 (+1)
12/21: CX873 SFO-HKG - JAeX
12/23: KA297 HKG-HAN - JAeX
12/24: CX 873 SFO-HKG - Frebay (+1)
12/24: KA 295 HKG-HAN - Frebay (+1)
12/24: CX 873 SFO-HKG - UCLABruin82

FARES (YMMV) listed alphabetically - F booked into J/A; J booked into I,D,C.


  • DAD-IAD: ~$1,483 (F)
  • DAD-JFK: ~$675 (J) ~$845 (F)
  • DAD-SFO: ~$931 (J)
  • HAN-BOS: ~$1,120 (J) ~$1,200 (F)
  • HAN-IAD: ~$1,000 (J) ~$1,400 (F)
  • HAN-JFK: ~$1,324 (J) ~$1,444 (F)
  • HAN-SFO: ~$1,240 (F)
  • HAN-YVR: ~$768 (J) ~$988 (F)
  • SGN-JFK: ~$1,849 (F)
  • SGN-ORD: ~$1,115 (F)
  • SGN-SEA: ~$1,109 (J)
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Old Jan 2, 2019, 7:39 pm
  #766  
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
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Originally Posted by mrow


OneWorld rules require you to be travelling on a OneWorld airline to be guested into a OneWorld lounge by someone travelling in F or with OneWorld sapphire or emerald status, so if you’re flying Hong Kong Airlines then you wouldn’t be eligible for guesting into a Cathay Pacific Lounge.
Not true at all. You are not using status but the fare class (first).
I wish people would not reiterate such wrong information.
Yes, your friend can guest you in (did it before).

https://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_HK/travel-information/airport/lounges/all-lounges-admittance.html
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Old Jan 2, 2019, 7:39 pm
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Originally Posted by singal3
They will not be able to make a $100 change currently because "A" "I" "D" "C" inventory (depending on which fare you booked) is zeroed out for Ex-Vietnam routes to the US (at least the ones I checked).
Bingo! You are correct. This is what is preventing people from making changes to their bookings without repricing. By zeroing out A, I, D and C, ex DAD, HAN and SGN, any changes to ticketed reservations will have to re-price at F and J fares and after collecting the fare difference submit the ticket to the re-issue process. Don't know if CX website uses ITA's ReShop solution for itinerary changes which does the fare calculation when trying to re-issue but each booking has a TST stored which has all fare information for each individual booking. When you re-price a booking a new TST is created and store in the PNR.
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Old Jan 2, 2019, 7:39 pm
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Originally Posted by ChiefNWA
Damn, sounds like I'll be buying a refundable ticket on a OneWorld carrier that day lol.
Don't listen to the others, they are just plain wrong.
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Old Jan 2, 2019, 7:47 pm
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Originally Posted by Global321
So for most people, I think there are some questions about Vietnam visas. Here is what I believe to be true, but, I am NOT 100% sure.
Once we have facts with links, we can add to the wiki.

Transit Vietnam on one ticket - No Visa Needed
Transit Vietnam on two tickets - No Visa Needed
Overnight Vietnam / Longer stay / Leave the airport secure area - E-Visa needed. Apply ahead of time, pick up visa on arrival. (Can also do a 'normal visa' with 1-3 single or multiple visits.)

I am basing my information on these two sites:
https://www.vietnamonline.com/visa/transit-visa.html
https://vietnamvisa.govt.vn/united-states-citizens/

Feel free to update/correct.

Also note: There seem to be many sites that will massively overcharge you for visas. Be careful!
Some countries do not need a visa beforehand. US is not one of them.
If you are a US citizen then get an evisa (presuming just one visit). Do not go through any agency. It is faster and easier to get 2 evisas than 1 regular multiple entry.
https://evisa.xuatnhapcanh.gov.vn/trang-chu-ttdt
Do not use any other website.
You will have to print out the evisa. Payment with credit card may also be an issue. Chase works better than Citi from my experience.
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Old Jan 2, 2019, 7:47 pm
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Originally Posted by mcdullhk88

Now I wish CX F pax would have access to Flagship Check In. The CX check in desks aren't special.
That would be nice, but it's really not just a question of not granting passengers access to the space. If a CX passenger wanted an AA agent to check them in, AA would somehow have to take control of the ticket/coupon, create the check-in record, issue the boarding pass, and then return control of it to CX. It's not impossible, even across the SABRE/Amadeus divide, but it's not worth it.

In order for it to make sense for any CX passenger to have access to Flagship First check-in, they would probably have to station an agent in there with CX's system loaded into the computer. And even then, given that agents often work together or need each other, having a lone agent there might not work...if something goes wrong it will create confusion for passengers trying to check in there; if they need assistance, they will have to call over another agent from across the terminal; that single agent can create a lot more than his/her own value in efficiencies and do a lot more to keep things moving overall if stationed with the rest of the agents.

For all of those reasons, I don't see CX ever using Flagship First Check-In at JFK when they have their very own dedicated section at the other end of the hall.
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Old Jan 2, 2019, 7:50 pm
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For those of you trying to get EQMs for the AS program, what will you do about the segments on Cathay Dragon?
According to the AS website those flights don't count at all (even though operated by CX as their flight numbers are not in the range they accept).

Also can someone add my flight to the wiki please?
3/29/18 CX 5296 HAN-/HKG/ CX 872 HKG-SFO

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Old Jan 2, 2019, 8:03 pm
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Originally Posted by LHG
For those of you trying to get EQMs for the AS program, what will you do about the segments on Cathay Dragon?
According to the AS website those flights don't count at all (even though operated by CX as their flight numbers are not in the range they accept).

Also can someone add my flight to the wiki please?
3/29/18 CX 5296 HAN-/HKG/ CX 872 HKG-SFO

Thanks
Added, J or F class for CX872?

personally i used Air China's program to collect miles for all my *A flights, so probably i'll put them into Air China as well... but i reckon that may not be applicable to most non-Asian (or most non-Chinese? lol)
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Old Jan 2, 2019, 8:09 pm
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[QUOTE=LHG;30602032]For those of you trying to get EQMs for the AS program, what will you do about the segments on Cathay Dragon?
According to the AS website those flights don't count at all (even though operated by CX as their flight numbers are not in the range they accept).

https://www.wheretocredit.com/cathay-dragon/j

(you can change if your fare basis is not showing as J)
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Old Jan 2, 2019, 8:23 pm
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Originally Posted by mrow


OneWorld rules require you to be travelling on a OneWorld airline to be guested into a OneWorld lounge by someone travelling in F or with OneWorld sapphire or emerald status, so if you’re flying Hong Kong Airlines then you wouldn’t be eligible for guesting into a Cathay Pacific Lounge.

Originally Posted by s0ssos
Not true at all. You are not using status but the fare class (first).
I wish people would not reiterate such wrong information.
Yes, your friend can guest you in (did it before).

https://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_...dmittance.html
Originally Posted by s0ssos
Don't listen to the others, they are just plain wrong.
I was referring to guesting based on status and guesting based on class of service.

From the OneWorld website:

  • First Class passengers may invite one guest to join them in the lounge. The guest must also be travelling on a flight operated and marketed by a oneworld airline
Thus, whilst someone travelling in F can guest someone into the CX F lounges, the guest also needs to be travelling on a OneWorld airline. Therefore someone travelling on Hong Kong airlines would not be eligible to be guested into a OneWorld lounge.

https://www.oneworld.com/ffp/lounge-access

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Old Jan 2, 2019, 8:24 pm
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If I am flying AA LAX-SFO and connecting to CX F SFO-HKG on a separate ticket, will I have Flagship Dining access at LAX?
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Old Jan 2, 2019, 8:25 pm
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Originally Posted by mrow

From the OneWorld website:

Thus, whilst someone travelling in F can guest someone into the CX F lounges, the guest *also* needs to be travelling on a OneWorld airline.
We are talking about Cathay Pacific, as such you should look at their website rather than oneworld rules.
We are talking about someone travelling in F, not "or with OneWorld status" as most people here do not have oneworld status.
Cathay Pacific explicitly states that you get one guest for travelling in F. No asterisk, saying you have to be flying a oneworld airline.

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Old Jan 2, 2019, 8:46 pm
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Originally Posted by s0ssos
We are talking about Cathay Pacific, as such you should look at their website rather than oneworld rules.
We are talking about someone travelling in F, not "or with OneWorld status" as most people here do not have oneworld status.
Cathay Pacific explicitly states that you get one guest for travelling in F. No asterisk, saying you have to be flying a oneworld airline.
My statement is a correct interpretation of the OneWorld guesting rules for people with elite status or for people holding a ticket in First Class.

I agree that the Cathay Pacific site does not stipulate that guests must be travelling on a OneWorld airline, however in general I have always found that guests have needed to be travelling on a OneWorld airline to be admitted into a OneWorld lounge regardless of whether I was guesting based on the fact that I am flying in First or due to the fact I hold OneWorld emerald status.

I havent tried to guest anyone into a Cathay Pacific lounge recently so this requirement may not hold true for CX, but it certainly applies to guesting into AA, BA, QR and QF lounges regardless of whether I was guesting based on flying First or my OneWorld emerald status.



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Old Jan 2, 2019, 8:52 pm
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Here are the lounge access policies for J and F passengers on Cathay:
https://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_...dmittance.html
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Old Jan 2, 2019, 8:57 pm
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Originally Posted by mrow

My statement is a correct interpretation of the OneWorld guesting rules for people with elite status or for people holding a ticket in First Class.

I agree that the Cathay Pacific site does not stipulate that guests must be travelling on a OneWorld airline, however in general I have always found that guests have needed to be travelling on a OneWorld airline to be admitted into a OneWorld lounge regardless of whether I was guesting based on the fact that I am flying in First or due to the fact I hold OneWorld emerald status.

I havent tried to guest anyone into a Cathay Pacific lounge recently so this requirement may not hold true for CX, but it certainly applies to guesting into AA, BA, QR and QF lounges regardless of whether I was guesting based on flying First or my OneWorld emerald status.


This is correct. CX Premium or status pax are only allowed to guest pax into the CX lounge if the guest also travels on CX or another OW airline.

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Old Jan 2, 2019, 9:02 pm
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Originally Posted by mrow

My statement is a correct interpretation of the OneWorld guesting rules for people with elite status or for people holding a ticket in First Class.

I agree that the Cathay Pacific site does not stipulate that guests must be travelling on a OneWorld airline, however in general I have always found that guests have needed to be travelling on a OneWorld airline to be admitted into a OneWorld lounge regardless of whether I was guesting based on the fact that I am flying in First or due to the fact I hold OneWorld emerald status.

I havent tried to guest anyone into a Cathay Pacific lounge recently so this requirement may not hold true for CX, but it certainly applies to guesting into AA, BA, QR and QF lounges regardless of whether I was guesting based on flying First or my OneWorld emerald status.


Originally Posted by NetJets Germany


This is correct. CX Premium or status pax are only allowed to guest pax into the CX lounge if the guest also travels on CX or another OW airline.
I have guested someone in who was not flying oneworld, when I was flying CX F.

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