Nov 23, 2013, 2:43 pm
Last edit by: boxo
As indicated in the thread title, this deal is now dead.
How do I manage my itinerary/check my booking/select seats?
Note that the displayed receipt will be incorrect ($5 higher than actual) owing to a programming error. The taxes/fees shown includes the original $5 WF booking fee. Do not worry about this; it does not change the amount you are actually billed.How many miles will I earn on United from my flight?
How do I manage my itinerary/check my booking/select seats?
- Go to http://www.wideroe.no/en/my-trips or https://wftc2-wideroe.e-travel.com/p...E_REQUEST=true
- Enter PNR/email address/last name
Note that the displayed receipt will be incorrect ($5 higher than actual) owing to a programming error. The taxes/fees shown includes the original $5 WF booking fee. Do not worry about this; it does not change the amount you are actually billed.
Here's the UA master page listing airline partners. If you click on a partner logo, you'll see a page containing a chart showing the yield for flights taken on partner metal. (It even says explicitly that it's the metal that counts: "The award miles accrued on codeshare flights are based on the operating carrier and their equivalent fare class.")
MileagePlus (UA) earning charts for
Will I do better if I credit to another *A carrier instead?MileagePlus (UA) earning charts for
- Lufthansa (LH) (K fares earn 0%!)
- SWISS (LX) (K fares earn 0%!)
- Air Canada (AC)
Maybe.
Miles&More (LH, LX,...) earning charts for
Here's the master list of partner earning charts for Aegean (A3) and here's the list for Turkish Airlines (TK).
Are there other FlyerTalk members flying when I am?Miles&More (LH, LX,...) earning charts for
- United Airlines (UA) (K, L, T fares earn 50%, 25% for flights in 2014)
- Lufthansa (LH) (K, L, T fares earn 50% for TATL flights in 2013, 25% for TATL flights in 2014)
- Swiss (LX) (K, L, T fares earn 50% for TATL flights in 2013, 25% for TATL flights in 2014)
- Air Canada (AC) (K, L, T fares earn 50% for TATL flights in 2013, 25% for TATL flights in 2014)
Here's the master list of partner earning charts for Aegean (A3) and here's the list for Turkish Airlines (TK).
Quite possibly! There is a meetup thread on the CommunityBuzz forum. Post if you would like to participate.
Travel reportsBooking/ticketing reports, now largely academic, may be viewed in the wiki history.
Please report below any completed flights and/or difficulties encountered (checking in, boarding, etc.) that appear related to the booking circumstances.
Please report below any completed flights and/or difficulties encountered (checking in, boarding, etc.) that appear related to the booking circumstances.
- Post #2428 reported arriving in STR on 11/28/13 with no problems.
- Post #2670 reported arriving in MXP on 12/1/13 with no problems.
- Post #2680 reported traveling EWR-MXP on 12/1/13 with no problems.
[FARE GONE] UA: EWR-Europe from $370 return
Nov 26, 2013, 8:53 am
#2431
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There was roughly a $5 booking fee and I'm sure there is some revenue sharing/commission on the ticket. I have no idea what the revenue sharing arrangement is, but assuming ~15,000 tickets, at a minimum they made 75k in booking fees over a couple of days.
Nov 26, 2013, 9:03 am
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Nov 26, 2013, 9:08 am
#2433
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For $. WF got all the booking fees; we got cheap tickets. It was a win-win. I certainly don't have a problem with them profiting as long as they are passing valuable information. I do not think the OP wanted "fame" otherwise he would have shouted from the rooftops hey I'm with X site we just noticed this great 'deal' use our website!
Let say WF get paid (someone mentioned $5) per ticket. Seems like they are burning bridges; for every $5 they earned, UA lost out on $450 in YQ.
Nov 26, 2013, 9:09 am
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Also anyone who frequents the UA board knows that if UA is going to make a statement, UA Insider usually posts relatively quickly and his prolonged silence is typically an indication that UA will not be making any official response to the situation. I'm assuming the latter here.
Nov 26, 2013, 9:09 am
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Nov 26, 2013, 9:11 am
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I thought I saw someone mention this in the thread though it's so long now I have no idea where but unless UA loaded the tickets incorrectly isn't the YQ the responsibility of one of the other parties involved (either WF or Amadeus). I think UA might actually be decently okay with what happened because they'll be made whole and like WF (who collected commissions) sold a ton of tickets knowing that the ultimate responsibility is on someone else to pay for the YQ.
Nov 26, 2013, 9:12 am
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At least publicly, WF management seems quite pleased thus far. Obviously, that could still change........
Nov 26, 2013, 9:17 am
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I thought I saw someone mention this in the thread though it's so long now I have no idea where but unless UA loaded the tickets incorrectly isn't the YQ the responsibility of one of the other parties involved (either WF or Amadeus). I think UA might actually be decently okay with what happened because they'll be made whole and like WF (who collected commissions) sold a ton of tickets knowing that the ultimate responsibility is on someone else to pay for the YQ.
Nov 26, 2013, 9:34 am
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In the grand scheme of things, and when contrasted with the potential fallout from this whole thing, that doesn't really seem like a lot of revenue, does it? Maybe for a smaller carrier like WF, perhaps, but one would hope they did the cost/benefit analysis of making an easy ~$75k in a weekend vs. royally pissing off UAL.
Nov 26, 2013, 9:50 am
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Well, WF is a small airline, which only recently was spun off from parent SAS. The cash flow generated should be substantial enough. They will have to hand over the cash collected at one point via the ICH http://www.iata.org/pressroom/facts_...pages/ich.aspx but could benefit from it for a while
Nov 26, 2013, 9:55 am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by seawolf
If OP is currently affiliated with WF, then OP has balls of steel. Even if it was a legal loophole/IT error, one would think, am I going to lose my job or end my career over this.
On the contrary, he might be in line for a promotion. Or a nice Christmas bonus!
At least publicly, WF management seems quite pleased thus far. Obviously, that could still change........
Originally Posted by seawolf
If OP is currently affiliated with WF, then OP has balls of steel. Even if it was a legal loophole/IT error, one would think, am I going to lose my job or end my career over this.
On the contrary, he might be in line for a promotion. Or a nice Christmas bonus!
At least publicly, WF management seems quite pleased thus far. Obviously, that could still change........
They had a profit of $22 million USD last quarter. Assuming 15,000 tickets sold at $5 a piece, $75,000 extra. OP should not expect a bonus.
If UA filed tariff wrong, WF burned bridges with UA. If Amadeus is the problem, WF burned bridges with their supplier.
The winner here, as always, are the banks.