[FARE GONE] SV: IAD-DXB, 14.9k miles/3.7 cpm, $557 ai
Nov 5, 2012, 3:08 pm
#31
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 342
DL is most likely downplaying its new alliance connections with SV due to Saudi Arabia's refusal to grant visas to Israelis or those with Israeli visa stamps. I can understanding not wanting to have big press releases or spreads for the in-flight magazines, but it does seem unreasonable to not publish an earning table somewhere on their website.
Nov 5, 2012, 3:14 pm
#32
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: ATL
Programs: DL - DM, Charter KM; Marriott Ambassador
Posts: 1,355
Hi,
US citizen transiting through Saudi Arabia (SA)
TWOV (Transit Without Visa):
Visa required, except for Visa not required for those
continuing to a third country, provided:
continuing by the same or first connecting aircraft within
18 hours; and
holding confirmed onward tickets; and
all documents required for their the next destination.
Only one stop-over in Saudi Arabia is permitted, except when
flying on Saudi Arabian Airlines, where a second transit point
is permitted. Any change to itinerary is subject to
immigration approval. There are no hotel facilities available
at the airport transit area.
Passengers whose connection time is over 6 hours and less
than 18 hours may be allowed to leave the airport for hotel
accommodation or shopping. If passengers are granted
permision to leave the airport, immigration will retain
their passports and issue a transit permit which must be
submitted to immigration 3 hours prior to departure. One
coloured passport photograph is required.
Additional Information:
Admission and transit refused if not complying with the
Saudi Arabian requirements regarding general appearance
For details, click here
It is strongly recommended not to hold passports containing
any Israeli visa or stamp when entering or transiting Saudi
Arabia.
Visitors must hold all documents required for next
destination, and return or onward tickets.
Warning:
Non-compliance with the entry requirements will result in a
fine of SAR 5,000.-
US citizen transiting through Saudi Arabia (SA)
TWOV (Transit Without Visa):
Visa required, except for Visa not required for those
continuing to a third country, provided:
continuing by the same or first connecting aircraft within
18 hours; and
holding confirmed onward tickets; and
all documents required for their the next destination.
Only one stop-over in Saudi Arabia is permitted, except when
flying on Saudi Arabian Airlines, where a second transit point
is permitted. Any change to itinerary is subject to
immigration approval. There are no hotel facilities available
at the airport transit area.
Passengers whose connection time is over 6 hours and less
than 18 hours may be allowed to leave the airport for hotel
accommodation or shopping. If passengers are granted
permision to leave the airport, immigration will retain
their passports and issue a transit permit which must be
submitted to immigration 3 hours prior to departure. One
coloured passport photograph is required.
Additional Information:
Admission and transit refused if not complying with the
Saudi Arabian requirements regarding general appearance
For details, click here
It is strongly recommended not to hold passports containing
any Israeli visa or stamp when entering or transiting Saudi
Arabia.
Visitors must hold all documents required for next
destination, and return or onward tickets.
Warning:
Non-compliance with the entry requirements will result in a
fine of SAR 5,000.-
Nov 5, 2012, 3:47 pm
#34
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: PIT, BWI, or IPT
Programs: Dividend Miles, WorldPerks
Posts: 1,302
So it seems that we are reasonably certain that we get MQM's on SV.
I am a little concerned about traveling through with my girlfriend (not married). She would not be allowed to get a travel visa per the published rules. However, an under 18hr connection does not require one. Would we be okay? Anyone else done anything similar?
I am a little concerned about traveling through with my girlfriend (not married). She would not be allowed to get a travel visa per the published rules. However, an under 18hr connection does not require one. Would we be okay? Anyone else done anything similar?
Nov 5, 2012, 5:01 pm
#35
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: ATL
Programs: DL - DM, Charter KM; Marriott Ambassador
Posts: 1,355
Yes I would very much like the stamp, although the visit would certainly be enough.
Nov 6, 2012, 6:16 am
#36
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: MLB
Programs: DL DM/2.9M, AA EXP, *A Gold
Posts: 245
At this point I would like to quote the answer from SkyMiles customer service that I got when I asked for clarification:
SkyTeam Member: Yes
Effective Dates Entered SkyMiles Program: May 28,201
Award Travel: Yes - only on flights Marketed and operated by SV. No info available in Multi-Airline Awards. No help with process or Booking classes.
Codeshare Guidelines
For Award Travel NO CODESHARE
Codeshare NO CODESHARE at this time
Frequent Flyer Program Alfursan Program
See OAL Frequent Traveler Programs
Gateways and Hubs Gateways Hub
JFK, IAD JED
Mileage Credit Yes.
Elite Tier Bonus Yes
That was all they could tell me back in September.
DL seems to have serious trouble with SV.
SkyTeam Member: Yes
Effective Dates Entered SkyMiles Program: May 28,201
Award Travel: Yes - only on flights Marketed and operated by SV. No info available in Multi-Airline Awards. No help with process or Booking classes.
Codeshare Guidelines
For Award Travel NO CODESHARE
Codeshare NO CODESHARE at this time
Frequent Flyer Program Alfursan Program
See OAL Frequent Traveler Programs
Gateways and Hubs Gateways Hub
JFK, IAD JED
Mileage Credit Yes.
Elite Tier Bonus Yes
That was all they could tell me back in September.
DL seems to have serious trouble with SV.
Effective May 28, 2012, SkyMiles members are able to earn miles on Saudi
Arabian Airlines. All classes of service on Saudi Arabian Airlines
marketed and operated flights are eligible for Medallion Qualification
Miles and Medallion bonus miles.
The various classes of service earn mileage at the following rates:
F, P, A, R -- 100% base miles and 60% class of service bonus miles
J, C, D -- 100% base miles and 50% class of service bonus miles
Y, W, O, B, M, K, T, Q, L, X, V, G -- 100% base miles and no class of service bonus miles
So we should have no problem earning 100% MQM and 100% Medallion bonus miles for all of the flights referenced in this thread.
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Nov 6, 2012, 2:25 pm
#39
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: RSW, MGA, DCA, CSX, HKG
Programs: Still working on being loyal
Posts: 154
Never tried before and would love to get this flight.
Nov 6, 2012, 3:02 pm
#42
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: NY/NJ
Posts: 524
delta skymiles
also confirmed with delta that full mileage credit, mqm and elite bonuses apply.
Saudia isn't particularly familiar with putting a Delta number in the record. You can't do online and when I called the agent insisted it couldn't be done but after he spoke to a supervisor he came back and claimed he found out how to do it. Wonder how lounge access will go in Riyadh and Jedah for a Elite Plus member?
Saudia isn't particularly familiar with putting a Delta number in the record. You can't do online and when I called the agent insisted it couldn't be done but after he spoke to a supervisor he came back and claimed he found out how to do it. Wonder how lounge access will go in Riyadh and Jedah for a Elite Plus member?
Nov 6, 2012, 3:09 pm
#43
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: ATL
Programs: DL DM/MM; Hilton Diamond; National Exec
Posts: 273
Here is a little more info on earning Skymiles on SV flights - this information was provided to me by Delta Assist this morning:
Effective May 28, 2012, SkyMiles members are able to earn miles on Saudi
Arabian Airlines. All classes of service on Saudi Arabian Airlines
marketed and operated flights are eligible for Medallion Qualification
Miles and Medallion bonus miles.
The various classes of service earn mileage at the following rates:
F, P, A, R -- 100% base miles and 60% class of service bonus miles
J, C, D -- 100% base miles and 50% class of service bonus miles
Y, W, O, B, M, K, T, Q, L, X, V, G -- 100% base miles and no class of service bonus miles
So we should have no problem earning 100% MQM and 100% Medallion bonus miles for all of the flights referenced in this thread.
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Effective May 28, 2012, SkyMiles members are able to earn miles on Saudi
Arabian Airlines. All classes of service on Saudi Arabian Airlines
marketed and operated flights are eligible for Medallion Qualification
Miles and Medallion bonus miles.
The various classes of service earn mileage at the following rates:
F, P, A, R -- 100% base miles and 60% class of service bonus miles
J, C, D -- 100% base miles and 50% class of service bonus miles
Y, W, O, B, M, K, T, Q, L, X, V, G -- 100% base miles and no class of service bonus miles
So we should have no problem earning 100% MQM and 100% Medallion bonus miles for all of the flights referenced in this thread.
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Nov 6, 2012, 6:28 pm
#44
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: ORD
Programs: US Air, UA BA LH AI DELTA MARRIOTT CHOICE SGP
Posts: 9,883
Nice find on the same-day turn - I'm still learning ITA!
And for places to stay, Airbnb, hostels.com, and couch surfing are all great if all you care about is a place to crash. Actual hotels seem to be $200 and up a night. But I'm sure you could do a credit card churn with some of the chains and stay for free (churn in a hurry, I suppose)
And for places to stay, Airbnb, hostels.com, and couch surfing are all great if all you care about is a place to crash. Actual hotels seem to be $200 and up a night. But I'm sure you could do a credit card churn with some of the chains and stay for free (churn in a hurry, I suppose)
eating is not expensive.
Nov 6, 2012, 10:05 pm
#45
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: YVR - Vancouver, with most winter weekends in Whistler.
Programs: Aeroplan 35K, Alaska MVP, Marriott Titanium / Lifetime Platinum, Hertz President's Circle
Posts: 4,609
It's similar to Las Vegas or Singapore. You can spend as much or as little time there as you want without the feeling that you're missing out on something.