Feb 24, 2015, 12:18 pm
Last edit by: WineCountryUA
CLE - Impact of other airlines (gates, routes, equipment, & etc) after UA De-Hubbing
Dec 22, 2015, 9:51 am
#526
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Just boarded an early flight this AM out of CLE. If you're traveling for the holidays, I would recommend getting to the airport earlier than usual if you plan on checking bags. With the construction moved down near the UA check in, it gets really congested around the kiosks. Only four premier kiosks. The security line was out of the queue and blocking the path to get to the premier kiosks at 520 this morning. UA had employees out directing people in the right directions but it was still really congested.
Dec 22, 2015, 10:42 am
#527
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Here's a tip. At drop off, go all the way down to where the last UA door used to be. There is a boarded off alcove to do curbside checkin and it has a "back door" into the building. Saves the aggravation of the ridiculous traffic pattern at the kiosks and provides a straight walkway past the noise to Precheck! YMMV. Merry Christmas!
Dec 22, 2015, 12:20 pm
#528
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Dec 22, 2015, 7:20 pm
#529
Join Date: May 2005
Location: CLE
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Here's a tip. At drop off, go all the way down to where the last UA door used to be. There is a boarded off alcove to do curbside checkin and it has a "back door" into the building. Saves the aggravation of the ridiculous traffic pattern at the kiosks and provides a straight walkway past the noise to Precheck! YMMV. Merry Christmas!
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Dec 22, 2015, 8:19 pm
#530
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: ORD/CLE
Programs: UA 1K HH Diamond
Posts: 294
Here's a tip. At drop off, go all the way down to where the last UA door used to be. There is a boarded off alcove to do curbside checkin and it has a "back door" into the building. Saves the aggravation of the ridiculous traffic pattern at the kiosks and provides a straight walkway past the noise to Precheck! YMMV. Merry Christmas!
Dec 22, 2015, 8:22 pm
#531
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: ORD/CLE
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Dec 22, 2015, 10:58 pm
#532
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: CLE
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Posts: 4,169
EWR-CLE
The current EWR-CLE schedule first departure 8:29AM next flight not till 3:55PM. There is over a 7 hour gap for hub service that's not good. They are also using more RJ's on this route. With the CLE downsize you would think they would maintain decent service to EWR and IAH but flights and downsized aircraft. Also notice CLE-ORD down to 8 flights but the last departure is at 5:30PM. They used to have flights running as late a 9:00PM.
Dec 23, 2015, 7:47 am
#533
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: JZRO
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The current EWR-CLE schedule first departure 8:29AM next flight not till 3:55PM. There is over a 7 hour gap for hub service that's not good. They are also using more RJ's on this route. With the CLE downsize you would think they would maintain decent service to EWR and IAH but flights and downsized aircraft. Also notice CLE-ORD down to 8 flights but the last departure is at 5:30PM. They used to have flights running as late a 9:00PM.
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Dec 23, 2015, 10:43 am
#534
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Location: Florida
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The current EWR-CLE schedule first departure 8:29AM next flight not till 3:55PM. There is over a 7 hour gap for hub service that's not good. They are also using more RJ's on this route. With the CLE downsize you would think they would maintain decent service to EWR and IAH but flights and downsized aircraft. Also notice CLE-ORD down to 8 flights but the last departure is at 5:30PM. They used to have flights running as late a 9:00PM.
The EWR-CLE schedule has been that way for quite a while, yes it's a pain, but that is how it has been for the last few years. Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe there has been no recent change to it. Definitely more RJ's on both IAH/EWR but I believe the times and frequencies have stayed somewhat the same.
Dec 23, 2015, 11:35 am
#535
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This unwelcome news is part and parcel of a general diminishment of CLE vis-à-vis UA. I scry fewer United flyers in CLE. Fewer elites. Fewer Club members. Eventually, no Club at all. There may be smaller spokes with UA Clubs, but no spoke is as pilloried by UA Management as is CLE. No indignity too harsh. No hope. Meanwhile, UA added CAK-EWR service. Go figure!
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Dec 23, 2015, 12:07 pm
#536
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RNE, pointing out that my use of the word "scry" should disabuse anyone of the false notion that clairvoyant conjecture is genuinely meant as truth.
scry
skrī/
verb
foretell the future using a crystal ball or other reflective object or surface.
RNE, pointing out that my use of the word "scry" should disabuse anyone of the false notion that clairvoyant conjecture is genuinely meant as truth.
scry
skrī/
verb
foretell the future using a crystal ball or other reflective object or surface.
Dec 23, 2015, 1:23 pm
#537
Join Date: Aug 2015
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Winner of the coveted RNE's Pick for Post of the Week!
RNE, pointing out that my use of the word "scry" should disabuse anyone of the false notion that clairvoyant conjecture is genuinely meant as truth.
scry
skrī/
verb
foretell the future using a crystal ball or other reflective object or surface.
RNE, pointing out that my use of the word "scry" should disabuse anyone of the false notion that clairvoyant conjecture is genuinely meant as truth.
scry
skrī/
verb
foretell the future using a crystal ball or other reflective object or surface.
Dec 23, 2015, 1:35 pm
#538
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: ORD/CLE
Programs: UA 1K HH Diamond
Posts: 294
I'm no expert but I'm almost positive the temporary reduction on ORD flights was for the holiday weeks. The late flight (8 or 9pm I believe) is back in JAN.
The EWR-CLE schedule has been that way for quite a while, yes it's a pain, but that is how it has been for the last few years. Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe there has been no recent change to it. Definitely more RJ's on both IAH/EWR but I believe the times and frequencies have stayed somewhat the same.
The EWR-CLE schedule has been that way for quite a while, yes it's a pain, but that is how it has been for the last few years. Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe there has been no recent change to it. Definitely more RJ's on both IAH/EWR but I believe the times and frequencies have stayed somewhat the same.
Dec 25, 2015, 9:41 am
#539
Join Date: Jul 2004
Programs: AA US
Posts: 378
The current EWR-CLE schedule first departure 8:29AM next flight not till 3:55PM. There is over a 7 hour gap for hub service that's not good. They are also using more RJ's on this route. With the CLE downsize you would think they would maintain decent service to EWR and IAH but flights and downsized aircraft. Also notice CLE-ORD down to 8 flights but the last departure is at 5:30PM. They used to have flights running as late a 9:00PM.
Last edited by WineCountryUA; Dec 25, 2015 at 11:38 am Reason: more appropriate term
Dec 27, 2015, 6:52 pm
#540
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: CLE
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At one time Continental could not by contract operate regional jets between hubs so you never saw them to EWR or IAH. Noticed they are operating revenue flight around the Browns charter, a 757-300 this week. On Saturday had a IAH-CLE morning fight to position the charter to MCI. Today they operated another IAH-CLE flight, then ferried the aircraft to MCI to bring the Browns back and that aircraft will operate another extra flight Monday morning CLE-IAH. They do not do this from what I can see at other non hub airports.