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Old Jul 5, 2009 | 6:30 am
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Originally Posted by TrojanHorse
go to ebay or some other site that will let you make the paypal or liquid asset transaction
Sorry, I'd never recommend eBay or Craigslist for something like this. Too much of a chance it will come back and bite you.
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Old Jul 6, 2009 | 2:04 pm
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Hmmm. I'm in charge of the points around here, don't think my husband the owner of said points even knows the password. Guess I better keep it that way.
In our home, also... Although I spend them as fast as he can earn them, so this would never be a problem.
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Old Aug 4, 2009 | 5:52 pm
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Old Aug 4, 2009 | 6:05 pm
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Dear Ex,
That trip I took to Bora Bora on my 40th birthday, First Class Singapore Air, was on your FF miles. Thought it was time to say 'thanks'.
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Old Aug 4, 2009 | 6:23 pm
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OK I am going to recommend something completely different - give your wife half the value of the accounts. Later on (perhaps many many years) you will feel good about taking the high road.

I treated my first wife fairly during property settlement around our divorce. She was financially naive and even agreed not to get her own lawyer but to let my lawyer "represent both of us" - I could have taken advantage but did not.

My father passed away last year and had an account joint with me (for federal bank deposit guarantee reasons) - on his death that account legally was all mine but I split it with my sister.

You will sleep better at night and feel better about yourself if you do the right thing.

FWIW I would value the Marriott points at 1.25 cpp and the UA miles at 1.5 cpm. Keep the points and miles, give her the cash (or a promissory note) and see if you can't realize a much higher value for the points/miles! Win-win as she probably would squander her half on gifts from the stupid gift catalog!
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Old Aug 4, 2009 | 7:47 pm
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Originally Posted by gardener
OK I am going to recommend something completely different - give your wife half the value of the accounts. Later on (perhaps many many years) you will feel good about taking the high road.
I just spit my drink all over myself when I read this one.. you can't be serious on this.. unless she earned them thru her travel.. which would change my tune.. maybe

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I treated my first wife fairly during property settlement around our divorce. She was financially naive and even agreed not to get her own lawyer but to let my lawyer "represent both of us" - I could have taken advantage but did not.
big difference in not taking advantage of her and keeping the miles.. not even the same topic

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My father passed away last year and had an account joint with me (for federal bank deposit guarantee reasons) - on his death that account legally was all mine but I split it with my sister.
totally different topic as well.. apples and oranges

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You will sleep better at night and feel better about yourself if you do the right thing.
yeah with a case of beer or a bottle of rye first maybe

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FWIW I would value the Marriott points at 1.25 cpp and the UA miles at 1.5 cpm. Keep the points and miles, give her the cash (or a promissory note) and see if you can't realize a much higher value for the points/miles! Win-win as she probably would squander her half on gifts from the stupid gift catalog!
I'd argue much lower values.. much lower.. man.. UA at 1.5.. NOT and MR at 1.25.. NOT
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Old Aug 4, 2009 | 8:50 pm
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[QUOTE=TrojanHorse;12176194]I just spit my drink all over myself when I read this one.. you can't be serious on this.. unless she earned them thru her travel.. which would change my tune.. maybe

Depends on how you look at it: I think my wife actually "earns" the miles when I travel. She juggles everything for our kids and our life while I am away - sometimes 11-12 days at a time. Carpool, sports, meetings, meal time, bedtime, morning rush, kids have broken bones while I'm gone......The miles are officially mine but wow does she "earn" them, meaning the travel is actually harder on her. In my case I'd give her 1/2 or maybe all the miles or let her redeem them - but who would watch the kids? I'll stay happily married.
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Old Aug 4, 2009 | 9:38 pm
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Depends on how you look at it: I think my wife actually "earns" the miles when I travel. She juggles everything for our kids and our life while I am away - sometimes 11-12 days at a time. Carpool, sports, meetings, meal time, bedtime, morning rush, kids have broken bones while I'm gone......The miles are officially mine but wow does she "earn" them, meaning the travel is actually harder on her. In my case I'd give her 1/2 or maybe all the miles or let her redeem them - but who would watch the kids? I'll stay happily married.
Perspective is definitely different when you are happily married and appreciation goes both ways. Keep up the the happy marriage!!
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 4:17 am
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my post was for the poster who is not in the happy marriage and getting a divorce.. of course I'd say stay in the happy marriage and enjoy..
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Originally Posted by gardener
OK I am going to recommend something completely different - give your wife half the value of the accounts. Later on (perhaps many many years) you will feel good about taking the high road.

I treated my first wife fairly during property settlement around our divorce. She was financially naive and even agreed not to get her own lawyer but to let my lawyer "represent both of us" - I could have taken advantage but did not.

My father passed away last year and had an account joint with me (for federal bank deposit guarantee reasons) - on his death that account legally was all mine but I split it with my sister.

You will sleep better at night and feel better about yourself if you do the right thing.

FWIW I would value the Marriott points at 1.25 cpp and the UA miles at 1.5 cpm. Keep the points and miles, give her the cash (or a promissory note) and see if you can't realize a much higher value for the points/miles! Win-win as she probably would squander her half on gifts from the stupid gift catalog!
I'm with gardener on this! I gave my ex 150,000 HHonors points in our divorce. I later donated another 150,000. A few years later her father passed away and she inherited some money. She let me off the hook on the last two years of alimony!! Somtimes points can buy good karma. BTW, Hilton set up an account for her and transfered the points iwth no problem.
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 6:54 am
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In another thread on this subject, someone said they just had an agreement with their Ex that she could redeem a total of X miles/points out of the account in future years. She'd call when she wanted a ticket (I believe they were working with airline miles), he'd book the ticket. Not what you want to hear, probably, but it's a way to avoid shelling out some cash up front in lieu of points or redeeming them for merchandise that may not have equivalent value. It also means that the airline/hotel doesn't have to do anything. It takes trust and communication, of course- not something that's always present in a divorce.

I like your original contention that Marriott owns the points and thus your STBX can't claim ownership, but the above may be a fallback position if her side gets wind of them and she ends up with the right to some of the points in the account. Good luck.
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 8:55 am
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Originally Posted by Schutzee
I'm with gardener on this! I gave my ex 150,000 HHonors points in our divorce. I later donated another 150,000. A few years later her father passed away and she inherited some money. She let me off the hook on the last two years of alimony!! Somtimes points can buy good karma. BTW, Hilton set up an account for her and transfered the points iwth no problem.
did she get your status at the time of transfer? based on other reports she should have since she "earned" it just like the points?
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 8:57 am
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Originally Posted by Schutzee
I'm with gardener on this! I gave my ex 150,000 HHonors points in our divorce. I later donated another 150,000. A few years later her father passed away and she inherited some money. She let me off the hook on the last two years of alimony!! Somtimes points can buy good karma. BTW, Hilton set up an account for her and transfered the points iwth no problem.
I'm not a lawyer but I would at least ask my lawyer to argue that a change in her financial situation would allow me to go before a judge to reduce or eliminate any alimony
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 11:14 am
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Originally Posted by Schutzee
I'm with gardener on this! I gave my ex 150,000 HHonors points in our divorce. I later donated another 150,000. A few years later her father passed away and she inherited some money. She let me off the hook on the last two years of alimony!! Somtimes points can buy good karma. BTW, Hilton set up an account for her and transfered the points iwth no problem.
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 12:34 pm
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I don't have to worry about divorce since I can't get married.
I'm there with you! I guess that is one benefit we do have. 542,369 benefits to go
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