Concierge Lounge Downgrades/Limits
#316
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Houston,Tx
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It's been said but I emphasize, why would they take away benefits for their most loyal, most productive customers? In this economic downturn, we are trying to keep our current customers not run them off.
Hilton is looking better
Hilton is looking better
#317




Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Port St Lucie, FL, UA1K since 1994 and 3mm, Delta 1mm
Programs: Marriott Titanium Life, Hilton Gold
Posts: 567
The Renaissance in AMS -- treated me like garbage -- small room on top floor with low ceiling in the old extension. This despite the hotel being empty. The LOUNGE is now closed on the weekends and they charge me for breakfast on the weekend.
Renaissance in Vienna. Service was good but no club lounge here (never had one), but the new GM has discontinued the English daily newspaper as a cost savings move (no USA today) and substituted a two page news sheet.
Starwood is looking better^^
#318
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: STL
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Posts: 886
At the Marriott Napa this week.
Pretty decent CL service, though I haven't had breakfast yet. Appetizers tonight were a veggie crudite, crackers and cheese, and chicken skewers. Free cab and chardonnay included in CL offerings.
Dessert was brownies and pieces of chocolate cake, plus popcorn fresh made and chex mix.
I was happy.
Pretty decent CL service, though I haven't had breakfast yet. Appetizers tonight were a veggie crudite, crackers and cheese, and chicken skewers. Free cab and chardonnay included in CL offerings.
Dessert was brownies and pieces of chocolate cake, plus popcorn fresh made and chex mix.
I was happy.
#319
Original Member
Join Date: May 1998
Location: San Diego, CA, USA
Posts: 1,310
So you actually need to check each Homewood to see what room types they offer. I booked a studio one night and a 1-br a second night at the Fargo ND Homewood for my wife. She said the studio room she had first was bigger than the "one bedroom" unit at the same location...
#320
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In general, Sheratons are the most likely to have a lounge, though it is not guaranteed. While there are some Westons and Le Meridians with a lounge, there aren't very many of those and all new Westons seem to be without a lounge. Most other Starwood hotels don't have any. Basically, if you are looking for free breakfast, that seems to be Hilton's focus. Even without a lounge free breakfasts are still offered.
#321
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while were at it
did anyone see the Hyatt Gold Passport enhancements..
Hyatt giveth.. Marriott continue to taketh away
http://www.goldpassport.com/gp/en/be...bigwelcome.jsp
to summarize
bold = my emphasis
Diamond Membership
After 25 eligible stays or 50 eligible nights, you will experience the highest level of membership and have access to our most generous benefits and awards.
Benefits:
Achieve rewards even faster with a 30% point bonus on each stay
Enjoy the best room available including Regency Club or Grand Club rooms3 (new)
Receive exclusive access to the Regency Club or Grand Club lounge featuring complimentary continental breakfast and evening hors doeuvres. Enjoy daily complimentary full breakfast in hotels without a club lounge4
Treat yourself to a suite upgrade four times annually on paid room nights5 (new)
Receive a special welcome point bonus or food and beverage amenity during each stay
Receive your requested bed type at check-in1
Stay connected with complimentary Internet access (new) Expedite
check-in at a dedicated area for elite members2 (new)
Ensure a room is always available with our 72-hour guarantee6
Book reservations through an exclusive Diamond line
Terms and Conditions
1Request must be made at time of reservation
2Not available at Hyatt Place or Hyatt Summerfield Suites
3Excludes suites
4During periods of high demand access to the Regency Club or Grand Club lounge may not be available; therefore, complimentary full breakfast for each registered guest and 2,500 bonus points will be given. Not available at Hyatt Place or Hyatt Summerfield Suites
5Suite upgrade awards valid on stays of seven nights or less; excludes Premier, Presidential and Diplomatic Suites. Not available at Hyatt Place or Hyatt Summerfield Suites
6Guarantee not valid at Hyatt resorts or during extraordinary room demand
Hyatt giveth.. Marriott continue to taketh away

http://www.goldpassport.com/gp/en/be...bigwelcome.jsp
to summarize
bold = my emphasis
Diamond Membership
After 25 eligible stays or 50 eligible nights, you will experience the highest level of membership and have access to our most generous benefits and awards.
Benefits:
Achieve rewards even faster with a 30% point bonus on each stay
Enjoy the best room available including Regency Club or Grand Club rooms3 (new)
Receive exclusive access to the Regency Club or Grand Club lounge featuring complimentary continental breakfast and evening hors doeuvres. Enjoy daily complimentary full breakfast in hotels without a club lounge4
Treat yourself to a suite upgrade four times annually on paid room nights5 (new)
Receive a special welcome point bonus or food and beverage amenity during each stay
Receive your requested bed type at check-in1
Stay connected with complimentary Internet access (new) Expedite
check-in at a dedicated area for elite members2 (new)
Ensure a room is always available with our 72-hour guarantee6
Book reservations through an exclusive Diamond line
Terms and Conditions
1Request must be made at time of reservation
2Not available at Hyatt Place or Hyatt Summerfield Suites
3Excludes suites
4During periods of high demand access to the Regency Club or Grand Club lounge may not be available; therefore, complimentary full breakfast for each registered guest and 2,500 bonus points will be given. Not available at Hyatt Place or Hyatt Summerfield Suites
5Suite upgrade awards valid on stays of seven nights or less; excludes Premier, Presidential and Diplomatic Suites. Not available at Hyatt Place or Hyatt Summerfield Suites
6Guarantee not valid at Hyatt resorts or during extraordinary room demand
#322




Join Date: Apr 2005
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Wow! Instead of pushing clients towards lower end properties with better value, Hyatt is trying to attract loyal well paying guests. What an interesting strategy!
#323




Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: SORT OF HOMELESS
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Posts: 8,104
Hyatt's move is quite interesting. ^
#324
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Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Potomac Falls, VA
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#325

Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: NJ
Programs: Hyatt Plat, Marriott Plat, United Silver
Posts: 55
Marriott Crystal City [not Gateway], VA: front desk rep told me this weekend: "Marriott will no longer do comp b'fast for elites on weekends when CL is closed".
#326
Company Representative - Marriott Concierge
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Salt Lake City, UT
Posts: 1,083
Just over two weeks ago I announced that Marriott would be reevaluating its Concierge Lounge offerings. All the concerns raised in this thread were discussed; however, the focus of the current change is on food offerings. Based on multiple feedback sources, we learned that hotels needed additional flexibility in the types of popular, healthy, and comfort food selections they offer. Going forward, our General Managers and hospitality teams on property will have options that will help them to customize lounge offerings that meet their guests preferences.
I recognize that many of you would have liked more details regarding this new policy, or perhaps to have seen additional changes. I am optimistic that as you visit our lounges over the next weeks and months you will be pleased with the changes you observe. I assure you that we continue to look for ways to improve and we value your comments, concerns, and questions.
Regards,
Ira
I recognize that many of you would have liked more details regarding this new policy, or perhaps to have seen additional changes. I am optimistic that as you visit our lounges over the next weeks and months you will be pleased with the changes you observe. I assure you that we continue to look for ways to improve and we value your comments, concerns, and questions.
Regards,
Ira
#327


Join Date: Mar 2009
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Thank you Ira.
#328
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thank you for keeping us posted
much appreciated
much appreciated
Just over two weeks ago I announced that Marriott would be reevaluating its Concierge Lounge offerings. All the concerns raised in this thread were discussed; however, the focus of the current change is on food offerings. Based on multiple feedback sources, we learned that hotels needed additional flexibility in the types of popular, healthy, and comfort food selections they offer. Going forward, our General Managers and hospitality teams on property will have options that will help them to customize lounge offerings that meet their guests preferences.
I recognize that many of you would have liked more details regarding this new policy, or perhaps to have seen additional changes. I am optimistic that as you visit our lounges over the next weeks and months you will be pleased with the changes you observe. I assure you that we continue to look for ways to improve and we value your comments, concerns, and questions.
Regards,
Ira
I recognize that many of you would have liked more details regarding this new policy, or perhaps to have seen additional changes. I am optimistic that as you visit our lounges over the next weeks and months you will be pleased with the changes you observe. I assure you that we continue to look for ways to improve and we value your comments, concerns, and questions.
Regards,
Ira
#329
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Central New Jersey (EWR, ABE, PHL)
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Thanks Ira and team...
BTW I would hope that the powers that be have seen Hyatt's offerings and are taking them under advisement as well???
Basically though, it seems that, as a PP there is no longer a need to stay at a full service hotel on the weekend since, chacnes are, you'd be 'upgraded' to a 'Concierge Room' that is, in reality just a room. Oh, and points or a gift....still isn't really worth it. (Robes, mouthwash, water-whatever.....free breakfast would sure make me feel appreciated, along with free internet,and hows about a break on parking in lots that are operated by the hotel. )
I can't remember the last time I stayed in a FS hotel.....PROBABLY the Ren at PHL airport, but since they charged me for a no show-TWO TIMES-for reservations that I had cancelation #s for, I will never go there....took them 2 months to refund one of them.....
BTW I would hope that the powers that be have seen Hyatt's offerings and are taking them under advisement as well???
Basically though, it seems that, as a PP there is no longer a need to stay at a full service hotel on the weekend since, chacnes are, you'd be 'upgraded' to a 'Concierge Room' that is, in reality just a room. Oh, and points or a gift....still isn't really worth it. (Robes, mouthwash, water-whatever.....free breakfast would sure make me feel appreciated, along with free internet,and hows about a break on parking in lots that are operated by the hotel. )
I can't remember the last time I stayed in a FS hotel.....PROBABLY the Ren at PHL airport, but since they charged me for a no show-TWO TIMES-for reservations that I had cancelation #s for, I will never go there....took them 2 months to refund one of them.....
#330




Join Date: Dec 2003
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Basically though, it seems that, as a PP there is no longer a need to stay at a full service hotel on the weekend since, chacnes are, you'd be 'upgraded' to a 'Concierge Room' that is, in reality just a room. Oh, and points or a gift....still isn't really worth it. (Robes, mouthwash, water-whatever.....free breakfast would sure make me feel appreciated, along with free internet,and hows about a break on parking in lots that are operated by the hotel. )
If Hyatt or Sheraton or whomever can lure someone away with a few cheap gifts, then by all means they should take their business there and enjoy the inconsistent service and occasional dump of a property they stay in.
Look at Four Seasons, Ritz-Carlton, etc.--they don't provide anything other than an outstanding experience every time you stay with them. And for people who want to whine that they don't get a free breakfast, either pay the significant upgrade for the Club Level or take your business elsewhere.
Marriott could do worse than to emulate the successful model of those upscale chains, as opposed to chasing the penny-pinching, change-loyalty-at-the-drop-of-a-hat crowd...

