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Hotel website: JW Marriott Seoul
Still one guest for Golds/Plats
Price for additional guests 19+ y.o. is KRW 80,000++
Price for children 49 months - 18 y.o. is KRW 35,000++
No guests 18 or younger during happy hour 6-8 pm
Still one guest for Golds/Plats
Price for additional guests 19+ y.o. is KRW 80,000++
Price for children 49 months - 18 y.o. is KRW 35,000++
No guests 18 or younger during happy hour 6-8 pm
Elite breakfast/lounge access policy at older JW Seoul
#16
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Thanks Guys for the feedback.
The reservation is made for two. The issue is they don't ask marriage certificate, but at least if we go to the lounge with the same gender, they would block to ask more detail.
My impression is this is mainly targeted to local Korean people. Usually, Korean is very shy to say in English, so they would not interrupt Western people. I've heard there have been some abuses for the elite benefits e.g. bring friend "A" for happy hour, "B" for breakfast, "C" for Sauna. I guess this might be the reason they clearly defined only spouse of the elite member can have the same benefit. No other direct siblings are allowed, which I could not find in T&C. I understand they would ban any related abuse, but they cannot make their own rule violating the global T&C. That's what don't understand and accept.
Marriott should change their T&C like hilton.
"Benefit is limited to the registered guests staying in the same room" regardless of the gender and others.
The reservation is made for two. The issue is they don't ask marriage certificate, but at least if we go to the lounge with the same gender, they would block to ask more detail.
My impression is this is mainly targeted to local Korean people. Usually, Korean is very shy to say in English, so they would not interrupt Western people. I've heard there have been some abuses for the elite benefits e.g. bring friend "A" for happy hour, "B" for breakfast, "C" for Sauna. I guess this might be the reason they clearly defined only spouse of the elite member can have the same benefit. No other direct siblings are allowed, which I could not find in T&C. I understand they would ban any related abuse, but they cannot make their own rule violating the global T&C. That's what don't understand and accept.
Marriott should change their T&C like hilton.
"Benefit is limited to the registered guests staying in the same room" regardless of the gender and others.
#17
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I understand what the OP is stating, but I'm wondering if there isn't either some type of language barrier, some other kind of miscommunication occurring, or some part of the story that isn't being told here. The OP didn't actually say that they had been denied the benefit if you read the first post closely.
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Sharon-- could you kindly update the lounge sticky with this info?
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What if it is a gay or lezbian couple?
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Make it more interesting and helpful to know which property you are referring to.
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Given the issue as stated above, I would guess it was for two. It sounds like the issue isn't whether a 2nd person is on the reservation or not, but that the 2nd person isn't the elite member's spouse. With the hotel saying they are limiting the "plus one guest" requirement from the Marriott T&Cs to be the member's spouse or no CL lounge access for the 2nd person.
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Hi OP, sorry for my ignorance. May I know if you are referring to the older JW in Seoul (where the central bus sta is)?
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That's weird. I stayed at the JW in Seoul last year and found to EL to be a very nice place to hang out. The often but not always asked for the room number but that was about it. I actually had the room booked for 1 person but my wife was w/ me ... no questions asked whatsoever.
I find this very strange indeed. Are we talking about the JW at the express bus terminal?
I find this very strange indeed. Are we talking about the JW at the express bus terminal?
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Ummm...I can also see there could be people who stay at hotels and have one night stands - a different person every night. Maybe the hotel also hopes to eliminate that with this policy - especially if they think some of these guests of the guest are not worthy of their nice lounge?
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Ummm...I can also see there could be people who stay at hotels and have one night stands - a different person every night. Maybe the hotel also hopes to eliminate that with this policy - especially if they think some of these guests of the guest are not worthy of their nice lounge?
Actually, the policy should be very straightforward. Marriott should consider updating it to read Platinum and Gold members will receive free lounge access for themselves and one additional guest registered in the same room.
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There are 2 JWs in Seoul. Which one are we referring to in this thread? I can put a note in the exec lounge sticky, but need to know which one. Also, I'm going to send a link to this thread to the Marriott guy who helped in the shark fin soup thread, so that he can reach out to the property & tell them they need to comply with Marriott policy. But he'll need to know which one as well.
Also, if the OP has Twitter or Facebook I'd recommend reaching out that way as well.
Cheers.
Also, if the OP has Twitter or Facebook I'd recommend reaching out that way as well.
Cheers.
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Yes Yes, I meant older JW Seoul near central bus station. I tend to mention new one JW Dongdaemun even if it's still in Seoul.. (Official name is JW Dongdaemun Square Seoul)..
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There are 2 JWs in Seoul. Which one are we referring to in this thread? I can put a note in the exec lounge sticky, but need to know which one. Also, I'm going to send a link to this thread to the Marriott guy who helped in the shark fin soup thread, so that he can reach out to the property & tell them they need to comply with Marriott policy. But he'll need to know which one as well.
Also, if the OP has Twitter or Facebook I'd recommend reaching out that way as well.
Cheers.
Also, if the OP has Twitter or Facebook I'd recommend reaching out that way as well.
Cheers.
I clarified my original posting. It's older JW Seoul in Banpo area (central bus station). Newer one is used to be called JW Dongdaemun (official name: JW Dongdaemun square Seoul)..
MOD: Can you please change the title of the thread to make it clear?? like "older JW Seoul".
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#29
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A lot of hotels outside of the U.S. require that all guests in the room be registered.
Actually, the policy should be very straightforward. Marriott should consider updating it to read Platinum and Gold members will receive free lounge access for themselves and one additional guest registered in the same room.
Actually, the policy should be very straightforward. Marriott should consider updating it to read Platinum and Gold members will receive free lounge access for themselves and one additional guest registered in the same room.
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