Originally Posted by Flying for Fun (Post 29988193)

On the conversion date:

All floater certificates will be converted to a 150K Point Certificate ie New Category 1-4
All New floater certificates must be attached within 3 months. No exceptions!
Expiry date will be 12 months from Conversion date. No extensions!
If you have an upgraded Certificate the upgrade points are refunded and your certificate is converted to a 150K Point Certificate.
Once attached, they cannot be detached other than to attach to another reservation or cancel. ie no floaters, all attached/cancelled after 3 months.
Cancelled certificates have a 45K residual value
If not attached within 3 months, cancelled at 45K residual value.
Upgrades and downgrades as per New Program.
New Cat 5 +60K, New Cat 6 +180K New Cat 7 +240K

Existing attached certificates can be handled in the same way. A date change would not trigger a conversion of the underling certificate but a change in the property would. This would ensure that all existing certificates attached or unattached will be through the system within 12 months. It would be an equitable way to allow for booking dates not currently available and to determine if you are better keeping your existing reservation or cancelling it in favor of a conversion.

In my case, it would be advantageous to convert my current attached Cat 8 certificate. I would get a New Cat 1-4 and 90K points. The New Category of the property is 5. An upgrade to a New Cat 5 would be +60K leaving me with a net 30K in my account. It would also allow me to book any other Cat 5 property, including former SPG properties.In other cases, it may be better to just leave the old certificate attached.

Just some of my thoughts,

James

Originally Posted by TheCount2 (Post 29988340)

I used two seven night certificates for two rooms in Paris last week and paid a nightly upgrade fee for a family suite. Will I get rewards points on the upgrade fee?

Originally Posted by platbrownguy (Post 29989343)

My 120K AA miles posted 3 days later without any expedite request, thought that was pretty good.

I am currently on the phone with Marriott. I decided to go ahead and attach my 7-night Cat 1-5 certificate to a redemption at the Paragraph Resort in the country of Georgia. It's going up from MR Cat 5 to "New" Cat 5 (i.e. 35k/night) with the change.

I am a little on the fence. I wonder whether post-August 1 rules on amending/canceling my attached certificate might actually be less favorable than whatever they decide to do with floaters. I am a gambler, so it was a no-brainer to buy the travel package (90k SPG for 120k non-speculative AA was good enough on its own). But I don't know whether to attach or stay floating. Thoughts? (I don't really spend a week at a time anywhere, so ultimately I'd rather have points than a 7-night stay in Georgia.)

Originally Posted by jrey (Post 29989228)

I think this is possible but what about
1. Cat 6 cat 8 certificates?
2. 5N certificates?

I dont think it will be 3 months. It should 1 year or the current expiry.

Originally Posted by Flying for Fun (Post 29989615)

As explained, Category 6 returns 30K unrestricted points and converts to a Cat 1-4 in the New Program. Similarly, a Category 8 returns 90K unrestricted points and converts to a Cat 1-4 in the New Program.

I suggested 3 months to convert & attach, 1 year from New Program start to complete stay.

Same rules for 5 Night certificates, residual value is 30K.

James

Originally Posted by moops380 (Post 29988225)

Citi gives out AA miles like candy. BoA no longer does this with Alaska. You can get 2x AA at grocery stores (on a no fee card). Alaska cards have no compelling 2x+. Of course if you have a specific AA redemption in mind that's great, I'm talking speculatively. 70k for first class jfk-hkg/-stopover-/ hkg-(jnb/cpt in J) is compelling. AA miles used to be alot better, but lately have been terrible, and for shorter oneworld flights there are always avios. As always, YMMV.

Originally Posted by SightseeMC (Post 29989214)

And I think the screaming from customers would be pretty muted.

Originally Posted by jrey (Post 29989622)

I have a 5N cat 1-5. It shows value as 10K, not 30K. Are you sure that it is 30K? I just upgraded it to Cat 6 and it is now 25K.

>> PARTIAL PKG-CAT 6 - 25,000 Points

Originally Posted by Boleslav (Post 29989083)

I called the customer service 2x, the first time the rep told me there will be no change in the Marriott to United conversion.
the second rep told me they do not have any information at this time.

Originally Posted by Counsellor (Post 29965075)

There is quite a bit of discussion about that, and many opinions, but so far no clear answer.

If you attach before 1 August, the cert will (apparently) be honored irrespective of the "new" categories and rates. However, there are warnings that if the reservation is changed at all after that date, even by adjusting stay dates, the "new" redemption rates will apply.

What we don't know is what "credit" will be given for the certificate that was attached to the reservation, particularly if the number of points for the night at that property has changed. Nor do we know how the conversion will be made for unattached certificates, particularly since the old categories do not map neatly to the new categories.

My guess (and it is indeed a guess) is that if the cost of a night at the property has not changed, or is fewer points under the new chart (e.g., an old Cat 8 at 40K per night becomes a new Cat 5 at 35K per night), the attached certificate will still be honored after the change in dates of stay, but if the "price" has increased, you will have to pay the new price but get credit for the old price already paid. But that a guess and YMMV.

Originally Posted by funkbandit (Post 29990174)

The UA conversion bonus (offered at United's discretion) was offered in or around November. If offered again this year, you'd receive a max of 135k UA miles. Roughly what you can get now anytime. And for fewer MR points...