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Expert Review (posted to Luxury Forum) from March 2018 including description of Table 55 at the King Cole Bar:
https://www.flyertalk.com/hotel-revi...ular-stay-2408
Expert Review (posted to Luxury Forum) from March 2018 including description of Table 55 at the King Cole Bar:
https://www.flyertalk.com/hotel-revi...ular-stay-2408
St Regis New York City NYC [Master Thread]
#631
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 1,036
The St Regis NYC has been the most expensive hotel in the world with customer service worse than the next door Starbucks for some time now.
Unless you’re a regular of course, in which case they clearly do behave like a regular luxury hotel. Perhaps that is what the points economy has logically led them to.
Unless you’re a regular of course, in which case they clearly do behave like a regular luxury hotel. Perhaps that is what the points economy has logically led them to.
#632
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 117
So why bring up out of the blue at checkout that they have quite a few Ambassadors and Titaniums at the St.Regis?
#633
Join Date: Apr 2011
Programs: Marriott Ambassador, AA ExecPlat, Amtrak Select Exec, former WN apologist
Posts: 1,557
Yeah I have experienced that same comment from this property several times as well. While it is probably true (I would guess the St Regis NYC has one of the highest concentration of Ambassador guests of any hotel in the world), it is not clear what they are trying to accomplish, other than to make sure you don't feel special.
#634
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Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: PHX
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#635
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: USA
Programs: MB Ambassador, WOH Globalist, HH Diamond (Aspire), AA Gold, UA (*G) Gold
Posts: 5,910
The St Regis NYC has been the most expensive hotel in the world with customer service worse than the next door Starbucks for some time now.
Unless you’re a regular of course, in which case they clearly do behave like a regular luxury hotel. Perhaps that is what the points economy has logically led them to.
Unless you’re a regular of course, in which case they clearly do behave like a regular luxury hotel. Perhaps that is what the points economy has logically led them to.
#636
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Thousand Oaks, Ca., USA
Programs: AA Lifetime Plat; Bonvoy Titanium Lifetime Elite;Hyatt Globalist; HHonors Diamond; United Silver
Posts: 8,593
If I was to request one of the nicer Grand Luxe rooms, what should I ask for. (I might ask for “larger”but hoping for better advice here.)
#637
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Thousand Oaks, Ca., USA
Programs: AA Lifetime Plat; Bonvoy Titanium Lifetime Elite;Hyatt Globalist; HHonors Diamond; United Silver
Posts: 8,593
If I was to request one of the nicer Grand Luxe rooms, what should I ask for. (I might ask for “larger”but hoping for better advice here.)
#638
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 117
Yeah I have experienced that same comment from this property several times as well. While it is probably true (I would guess the St Regis NYC has one of the highest concentration of Ambassador guests of any hotel in the world), it is not clear what they are trying to accomplish, other than to make sure you don't feel special.
#639
Join Date: May 2011
Location: NYC (LGA, JFK), CT
Programs: Delta Platinum, American Gold, JetBlue Mosaic 4, Marriott Platinum, Hyatt Explorist, Hilton Diamond,
Posts: 4,983
Some would say managing expectations (another way of making "sure you don't feel special") is a good practice for most businesses (or for people in general)
#640
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Seat 1A
Programs: Non-status paid F/J (best value for $$$)
Posts: 4,130
#641
Join Date: Apr 2015
Programs: Some
Posts: 5,470
It might be good practice for a Walmart, but no, it’s not a good practice for a luxury hotel that wants to be able to charge over $1,000 per night.
#643
Join Date: Aug 2011
Programs: Marriott Bonvoy Ambassador
Posts: 599
Had a quick one-night stay here in November, and while nice, I echo the sentiments of service being a mixed bag.
Service
Check-in was nice enough, although the FDA did not realize we had two rooms booked until we told her, and one room was not ready until almost 6pm. King Cole Bar was packed and understaffed on a Saturday night - we witnessed a tiff between two employees right in front of us, with the bartender complaining to the hostess that she was letting too many people in ("you can't keep doing this to me!"). Not exactly professional, but I did feel for the bartender.
Before the stay, I called to ask when the champagne saber was, and was told 6pm. After it still had not happened at 6:10pm, I asked 3 different employees: one said, "oh that's weird, I don't know why they didn't do it yet", another said "it happens at 6pm" without acknowledging the time had passed, and another seemed confused and said they would ask someone, but never did. I finally went back inside the bar at 6:20pm, only for them to do it 5 minutes later (as I found out when I checked again at 6:30pm). Small thing, but I was bummed I missed it and no one was able to provide an answer.
Breakfast service was fine, and we did receive the full American Breakfast credit for one room.
Room - 2 rooms on FNAs
We asked if a suite upgrade might be possible (thru our Ambassador - noting we were flexible on check-in/check-out times), and then before our arrival, the hotel upgraded one room to an Astor Suite, which was very nice. Also had a fun welcome amenity to celebrate a birthday. One room was ready at about 3pm (the suite) and the other room was not ready until almost 6pm - we were offered a $150 credit for the inconvenience, although I had to inquire about it twice, as the first person who offered the credit did not actually process it. Suite was beautiful, the standard room was rather dark as it had one small window that directly faced a brick wall of another (very close) building - but totally fine for one night.
We would certainly return, but the level of service was definitely a bit disappointing this stay.
Service
Check-in was nice enough, although the FDA did not realize we had two rooms booked until we told her, and one room was not ready until almost 6pm. King Cole Bar was packed and understaffed on a Saturday night - we witnessed a tiff between two employees right in front of us, with the bartender complaining to the hostess that she was letting too many people in ("you can't keep doing this to me!"). Not exactly professional, but I did feel for the bartender.
Before the stay, I called to ask when the champagne saber was, and was told 6pm. After it still had not happened at 6:10pm, I asked 3 different employees: one said, "oh that's weird, I don't know why they didn't do it yet", another said "it happens at 6pm" without acknowledging the time had passed, and another seemed confused and said they would ask someone, but never did. I finally went back inside the bar at 6:20pm, only for them to do it 5 minutes later (as I found out when I checked again at 6:30pm). Small thing, but I was bummed I missed it and no one was able to provide an answer.
Breakfast service was fine, and we did receive the full American Breakfast credit for one room.
Room - 2 rooms on FNAs
We asked if a suite upgrade might be possible (thru our Ambassador - noting we were flexible on check-in/check-out times), and then before our arrival, the hotel upgraded one room to an Astor Suite, which was very nice. Also had a fun welcome amenity to celebrate a birthday. One room was ready at about 3pm (the suite) and the other room was not ready until almost 6pm - we were offered a $150 credit for the inconvenience, although I had to inquire about it twice, as the first person who offered the credit did not actually process it. Suite was beautiful, the standard room was rather dark as it had one small window that directly faced a brick wall of another (very close) building - but totally fine for one night.
We would certainly return, but the level of service was definitely a bit disappointing this stay.
#644
Join Date: Nov 2023
Location: Metro D.C.
Posts: 47
My recent experience essentially indicated 1) poor hires, 2) poor training, & 3) ineffective hotel and brand management. All are linked. Having management that cannot effectively assess a candidates' desire to serve probably doesn't realize that no amount training will be effective.
Ability to provide a guest a proper welcome and avoid bringing up their shift woes should be the absolute minimum requirements for hotel staff - pretty much anywhere, let alone at the St. Regis. I've had more pleasant interactions at Courtyard Marriott hotels, numerous times - by people that actually care and understand their role and position.
Obfuscated benefits are inexcusable. Just list them on a card or website like many other properties.
And regarding whether a night is paid for with dollars or points, by irregular or regular guests, by no status or high status guests, the guest should not feel any negative impact or treatment. Bonvoy is the "game" that Marriott wrote the rules for and rolled out, Marriott should play by them.
Ability to provide a guest a proper welcome and avoid bringing up their shift woes should be the absolute minimum requirements for hotel staff - pretty much anywhere, let alone at the St. Regis. I've had more pleasant interactions at Courtyard Marriott hotels, numerous times - by people that actually care and understand their role and position.
Obfuscated benefits are inexcusable. Just list them on a card or website like many other properties.
And regarding whether a night is paid for with dollars or points, by irregular or regular guests, by no status or high status guests, the guest should not feel any negative impact or treatment. Bonvoy is the "game" that Marriott wrote the rules for and rolled out, Marriott should play by them.
#645
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 117
Service
King Cole Bar was packed and understaffed on a Saturday night - we witnessed a tiff between two employees right in front of us, with the bartender complaining to the hostess that she was letting too many people in ("you can't keep doing this to me!"). Not exactly professional, but I did feel for the bartender.
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King Cole Bar was packed and understaffed on a Saturday night - we witnessed a tiff between two employees right in front of us, with the bartender complaining to the hostess that she was letting too many people in ("you can't keep doing this to me!"). Not exactly professional, but I did feel for the bartender.
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But I understand your sentiment. One sentence in at 4:10PM, my FDA was asking for a break. While I was right in front of her. Then did it again, after she had to tell me the room still wasn’t ready. Would have been rude if the Wegmans checkout person did that to me, let alone what is supposed to be one of the premier Marriott properties.