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Club Lounge Hours
(As of Sept 2017)
Breakfast
Everyday: 7 AM - 11 AM
Snacks and non-alcoholic drinks
Monday - Friday: 12:30 PM - 11 PM
Saturday - Sunday: 3 PM - 9 PM
Wine by the glass and hors d'oeuvres
Everyday: 6:30 PM - 8:30 PM
Club Lounge Hours
(As of Sept 2017)
Breakfast
Everyday: 7 AM - 11 AM
Snacks and non-alcoholic drinks
Monday - Friday: 12:30 PM - 11 PM
Saturday - Sunday: 3 PM - 9 PM
Wine by the glass and hors d'oeuvres
Everyday: 6:30 PM - 8:30 PM
Sheraton Libertador, Buenos Aires, Argentina [Master Thread]
#16
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Originally Posted by tmas
I'm going there this weekend and have a reservation at the Sheraton Hotel & Convention Center. How is this property compared to the other SPG properties? Thanks for your input, I can't wait to see what everyone has told me is one of the most beautiful cities.
For example:
Which Sheraton in EZE (Buenos Aires)
Sheraton Buenos Aires (SBA) mini report and journey down 10/29/2004
among others
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#17
Join Date: Oct 2000
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Bad: Recent Category Change For Libertador in Buenos Aires
Stayed at the Sheraton Libertador in BA in November. It was Category 1.
Went to book a stay a few months out, and it's been changed to a Category 2. That's a huge chunk of points when I'm booking a 3 week stay.
What happened to Categories changing at the beginning of the year? So much for that wee bit of notice that we usually get from William. When I called, the representative quoted me the T & C's that SPG has the right to change...blah, blah, blah. I was not calling to argue that - it's the execution of the change, with ZERO notice, especially when we're led to believe that the changes occur at a certain time, and it happens sooner.
One rather displeased Platinum here.
ALoha
#18
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Tucson - Seattle
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The Sheraton Libertador in BA should only be a cat 1. It really is an old run down property with a worn out lobby and rooms. The only thing it has going for it is location. I would stay there again for the location...but it really is no more than a Cat 1.
#19
formerly known as daveland
Join Date: Oct 2003
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That's very interesting indeed. The main screen says Cat 2 but lists 2-3K points for award. Attempting to book says 3-4K. Looks like they did raise it but missed a spot. Odd that they did it before the main cat changes though I guess the Real has been rising and rates have been up. I actually just booked this hotel for Feb. at the Cat 1 rates on a whim (was just pondering the dates) and now am glad I did
Perhaps Lurker can clarify it has indeed gone up despite the main page showing Cat 1 level points - and why it would happen a mere month or so before the normal cat changes.
Perhaps Lurker can clarify it has indeed gone up despite the main page showing Cat 1 level points - and why it would happen a mere month or so before the normal cat changes.
#21
Company Representative - Starwood
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Austin, Texas
Programs: Marriott Employee Level
Posts: 31,593
Always on a weekend...
The no notice thing is a non-starter for me. We do this every year, so this should come as no surprise to anyone. I've told everyone for two weeks now that if you anticipate using Starpoints for an award in 2006, then book it now. I also told everyone weeks ago that there was a possibility it could happen sooner than normal. Why? Because as a group, you all expressed a desire to have Cash & Points availability more continuous than in the past. In order for us to know who to solicit for Cash & Points, we have to know what category a property will be.
I have known about most of the changes in categories since last Thursday; however, there were still 45 properties whose status was listed as TBD (to be determined) and, more importantly, I have to wait until the properties whose category is changing to be notified of the change. Would you like to read that your property is going down a notch here or would you rather get an official notification?
There is a sync problem right now with what a hotel's category is and how many Starpoints are necessary for those hotels whose level has changed. This is a temporary situation that will be rectified once everyone has completed their part of the project. Remember...I also said that it takes four different departments to pull this off. Trying to get four different departments to sync their input is like trying to herd cats in a thunderstorm.
So, I appreciate your patience as we complete the project at hand and get everything in sync. I anticipate that I will be able to publish a complete list of changes as of sometime Wednesday; certainly no later than Thursday, depending upon what else falls in my lap between now and then.
Sincerely,
William R. Sanders
Customer Service Coordinator
Starwood Preferred Services
[email protected]
The no notice thing is a non-starter for me. We do this every year, so this should come as no surprise to anyone. I've told everyone for two weeks now that if you anticipate using Starpoints for an award in 2006, then book it now. I also told everyone weeks ago that there was a possibility it could happen sooner than normal. Why? Because as a group, you all expressed a desire to have Cash & Points availability more continuous than in the past. In order for us to know who to solicit for Cash & Points, we have to know what category a property will be.
I have known about most of the changes in categories since last Thursday; however, there were still 45 properties whose status was listed as TBD (to be determined) and, more importantly, I have to wait until the properties whose category is changing to be notified of the change. Would you like to read that your property is going down a notch here or would you rather get an official notification?
There is a sync problem right now with what a hotel's category is and how many Starpoints are necessary for those hotels whose level has changed. This is a temporary situation that will be rectified once everyone has completed their part of the project. Remember...I also said that it takes four different departments to pull this off. Trying to get four different departments to sync their input is like trying to herd cats in a thunderstorm.
So, I appreciate your patience as we complete the project at hand and get everything in sync. I anticipate that I will be able to publish a complete list of changes as of sometime Wednesday; certainly no later than Thursday, depending upon what else falls in my lap between now and then.
Sincerely,
William R. Sanders
Customer Service Coordinator
Starwood Preferred Services
[email protected]
#22
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Riverside, CA
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Originally Posted by Starwood Lurker
... I also told everyone weeks ago that there was a possibility it could happen sooner than normal. Why? Because as a group, you all expressed a desire to have Cash & Points availability more continuous than in the past. In order for us to know who to solicit for Cash & Points, we have to know what category a property will be.
#23
Company Representative - Starwood
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Austin, Texas
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Originally Posted by JMR
No good deed goes unpunished.
Sincerely,
William R. Sanders
Customer Service Coordinator
Starwood Preferred Services
[email protected]
#24
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Washington, DC
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Originally Posted by daveland
That's very interesting indeed. The main screen says Cat 2 but lists 2-3K points for award. Attempting to book says 3-4K. Looks like they did raise it but missed a spot. Odd that they did it before the main cat changes though I guess the Real has been rising and rates have been up. I actually just booked this hotel for Feb. at the Cat 1 rates on a whim (was just pondering the dates) and now am glad I did
#25
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Sheraton Libertador Buenos Aires
This must be one of the worst property in the entire world and it's getting worse all the time. How can such a rundown place be part of Starwood? Just unacceptable. The rooms are filthy, very few things are in working order, the service is barely adequate!
Come on Starwood either renovate it completely or get rid of it...paying 115$ plus a whopping 21% tax just doesn't do it for me sorry...any more such experiences and I give up
Come on Starwood either renovate it completely or get rid of it...paying 115$ plus a whopping 21% tax just doesn't do it for me sorry...any more such experiences and I give up
#26
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Oh c'mon, when you get the "Presidential Suite" for that price (upgrade), it is worth almost every cent . I stayed there in late December and for $99 plus tax, given the upgrade, the adequate breakfast, and a polite staff, it was worth it. Luxury? No. Worth more than that? Probably not. Convenient location? Sure. I've stayed in a lot worse, in a Starpoints-earning hotel.
#27
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Join Date: May 1998
Location: Portland OR Double Emerald (QF and AA), DL PM/MM, Starwood Plat
Posts: 19,589
I stayed here several years ago and the hotel was excellent; clean, well maintained, everything works, and my room was beautiful (however it was a suite). Perhaps some floors have been renovated and others have not (it is an older building, however the elevators were in good shape and the pool on the roof was spotless with a convertible glass roof).
Has it really changed so much in a couple of years? I would have rated it as above average for hotels in EZE and for Sheratons in general.
Has it really changed so much in a couple of years? I would have rated it as above average for hotels in EZE and for Sheratons in general.
#28
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Originally Posted by number_6
I stayed here several years ago and the hotel was excellent; clean, well maintained, everything works, and my room was beautiful (however it was a suite). Perhaps some floors have been renovated and others have not (it is an older building, however the elevators were in good shape and the pool on the roof was spotless with a convertible glass roof).
Has it really changed so much in a couple of years? I would have rated it as above average for hotels in EZE and for Sheratons in general.
Has it really changed so much in a couple of years? I would have rated it as above average for hotels in EZE and for Sheratons in general.
#29
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Washington, DC
Programs: UA Premier, SPG Platinum, Marriott Silver, HHonors Silver
Posts: 212
I stayed there for about a week last month and found it quite fine, especially with its great location. Staff was very friendly, the pool was pleasant, and I got upgraded to a junior suite for the first part of my stay (paid for with points) and a two-room suite the second part (for $99/night). There are plenty of other Starwood properties in Buenos Aires if you're looking for extreme luxury...
#30
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 16
I think this property serves its niche in the *wood line-up in Buenos Aires. If you want something nicer, there is the Convention Center property. For luxury, go with the adjoining hotel (I forget what it's called). All said, my experience at the Libertador was pleasant. Nothing great, but for the price and location, it was a good value.