WasKnown

Again, OTAs do not need to fight resort fees legally to be displeased with them. Expedia does not receive a commission on resort fees. Expedia de-ranks hotels with resort fees in their search. I think most reasonable people can look at these two simple facts and come to the obvious conclusion that Expedia does not like resort fees. I bet they WOULD like them if they could get a commission off of them but the Booking.com situation where they lost a flood of inventory obviously makes the path to that difficult.

GUWonder

Publicly posturing to be on the customers’ side when it comes to these hotel scam fees, while from the shadows using the PR/lobbying playbook of deploying money and foot soldiers to oppose meaningful, customer-friendly legal/regulatory reform to ban these fees? That’s not fighting these scam fees. It’s trying to pull the wool over the eyes of the gullible and keep the small print nonsense going.

WasKnown

So where’s your evidence to support that they’re doing this? They don’t make a commission off of resort fees (incentive) and fees-rank hotels with resort fees in their search (action). These are empirical and indisputable facts. Without evidence (aka a source for your claim, funny how we always come back to this), the rest is just speculation lol

Also, it’s amusing that you call this public posturing when most people (including many in this thread) didn’t even know Expedia de-ranked hotels with resort fees in their search

GUWonder

Not my responsibility to feed anyone here.

The big OTAs and Marriott play from the same playbook as big tech companies do about privacy matters: play one game in public but then deploy money and labor against consumer-friendly legal/regulatory changes that could actually put in place and memorialize a comprehensive, industry-wide halt to the consumer-unfriendly practices.

WasKnown

So no evidence, no sources as usual. You can’t source it because it’s pure speculation lol. Meanwhile, the facts remain unchanged. Expedia does not receive a commission from resort fees. Therefore, they de-rank hotels with resort fees in their search. Please keep going if this is the hill you want to die on lol.

GUWonder

I am more than marginally aware of what Expedia has done and is doing. And I don’t need a URL to be fed or to feed. Spoon-feeding on demand is not my way.

Expedia and Priceline/Booking.com could have pursued to permanently delist hotels with these scam fees. They didn’t.

These OTAs and Marriott could have put money and foot soldiers to lobby for legal/regulatory action to ban these scam fees. And yet at the federal and state levels, they are where? . Back to “the big OTAs and Marriott play from the same playbook as big tech companies do about privacy matters: play one game in public but then deploy money and labor against consumer-friendly legal/regulatory changes that could actually put in place and memorialize a comprehensive, industry-wide halt to the consumer-unfriendly practices.”

WasKnown

It’s not spoon feeding, it’s providing source for a baseless claim. If it were so easy to source any of your claims in any thread where you’ve been empirically proven wrong, you would have done so already.

And again, nothing changed the facts. Expedia does not get a commission on resort fees. That’s motive alone for them to dislike them. They also actively de-rank hotels with resort fees in their search algorithm. That is a direct manifestation of their dislike for fees. Where is the credible response (that doesn’t speculate about “shadow” games LOL) to this very simple line of reasoning?

GUWonder

De-ranking is not de-listing; nor is it evidence of fighting for legal/regulatory reform to slay these hotel scam fees.

WasKnown

Its easier to just quote my previous responses to you hahaha. Feel free to address it, if you can. =^)

GUWonder

Let’s see when the next hotel group is nailed for this same scam practice. Marriott needs a lot more company to be pressured.

But this scam practice needs to be dealt a coup de grace by legal/regulatory bans against this scam practice and have such memorialized reform apply across the board to travel service intermediaries and providers.

WasKnown

Just does not address my post at all. There is more than one way to oppose something and it is painfully obvious Expedia acted in their best interest to oppose resort fees lol

TravelingZoomer

You guys can really argue about anything

WasKnown

At this point, this is less of an argument and more of a hostile lesson lol

quinella66

One of the worst offenders in this department is Atlantis in the Bahamas. The rate without fees for some dates in January at the Royal are less than $300 per night without fees/taxes but $421 per night all in. What still stinks about it is that the fees usually still get charged for a “free” award stay. The taxes are reduced at least.

seat38a

Does that include tips like at many foreign locations? Personally I'm ok with included service fee, just means I don't have to make change before leaving on vacation.