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How to View Lifetime Status: https://help.marriott.com/s/article/Article-22489
Lifetime Status Details: https://help.marriott.com/s/article/Article-22145
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How will my Eligible Status Years for 2022 be applied to my Account and when?

If you maintained the same Elite status in 2022 that you started with in 2022 , your 2022 Eligible Status Year for your current status will be applied to your Account in January 2023.

If you achieved a higher Elite status during 2022, your 2022 Eligible Status Year for the new, higher tier was applied at the time of achievement.

If you did not meet the published criteria to renew your current status in 2022, your 2022 Eligible Status Year for your current status will be added in January 2023, and your Eligible Status Year for your new status will be added in March 2023 when your Elite status is updated.

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When will my 2021 qualifying year of Elite status be applied to my Account so I can track my path to Lifetime Elite Status?


As part of our regular process, Members receive their qualifying year towards Lifetime Elite status in one of two ways:
  1. If you maintain the same Elite level that you started the year with, your Qualifying Year of Elite status will be applied to your Account in January of the following year. Please Note: In November 2021, when we extended the Elite status that Members earned in 2019 or 2020, Members received their 2021 Qualifying Year of Elite status.
  2. If you achieve a higher Elite level during the year than the previous year, your Qualifying Year for the new, higher level will be applied at the time of achievement. Please Note: If you achieved a higher Elite level during 2021, your 2021 qualifying year of Elite status, was applied at the time of achievement.

If you maintain the same Elite level for 2022, your 2022 year of Elite status will be applied to your Account in January 2023. If you achieve a higher Elite level during 2022, your 2022 year of tenure for the new, higher level will be applied at the time of achievement.

Examples:
  • A Member achieved Gold Elite in 2019 and enjoyed the status in 2020. They received their 2020 year of Gold Elite status in July 2020 when we extended their status. Due to status extensions, the Member received their 2021 year of tenure in November 2021 when they their status was extended to February 2023.
  • A Member achieved Platinum Elite in 2020 and enjoyed the status in 2021. They received their 2021 year of Platinum status in November 2021 when they their status was extended to February 2023.
  • A Gold Elite Member achieved Platinum Elite in April 2021; the Platinum year of Elite status for 2021 was applied upon achievement (in April 2021).
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Old Jun 28, 2020, 8:28 pm
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Originally Posted by myperks
by this logic, then once you get to LT Titanium, why would anyone want to continue to stay with Marriott? I would argue that Marriott needs for members to attain titanium status through traditional means to get “recurring” business every year.
Agree but there has to be a point after which a member will just « default » to a chain once they’ve spent most of their life in it. I feel like stretching it further with Titanium could be that. I’ve met a number of people who’ve been with Marriott for 20+ years and stay in them by default; similarly with airlines. But at 10’ish, especially with devaluations and all, I feel like that loyalty is still being built. Maybe I’m in the minority on this one, not sure.
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Old Jun 28, 2020, 8:43 pm
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It’s funny how so many think Marriott should do whatever works to their own benefit. #entitlement #selfishness

Not at all surprisingly, Marriott cares more about its own variables.
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Old Jun 28, 2020, 10:23 pm
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Originally Posted by TSTraveler
It’s funny how so many think Marriott should do whatever works to their own benefit. #entitlement #selfishness

Not at all surprisingly, Marriott cares more about its own variables.
#makemoney

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Old Jun 28, 2020, 11:14 pm
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Originally Posted by TSTraveler
It’s funny how so many think Marriott should do whatever works to their own benefit. #entitlement #selfishness

Not at all surprisingly, Marriott cares more about its own variables.
Selfishness/entitlement for offering/wanting to spend +400-500 nights at a Marriott I may have been thinking of spending elsewhere? That’s an odd definition of the word, we might be sourcing our definitions from different places.
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Old Jun 28, 2020, 11:23 pm
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Originally Posted by Pseudo Nim
Selfishness/entitlement for offering/wanting to spend +400-500 nights at a Marriott I may have been thinking of spending elsewhere? That’s an odd definition of the word, we might be sourcing our definitions from different places.
Huh? You can spend $400-500 wherever you like. That has nothing to do with Marriott offering Lifetime Titanium status ever again. Marriott isn’t going to offer that again. You can stay wherever you like.
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Old Jun 29, 2020, 12:11 am
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Originally Posted by TSTraveler
Huh? You can spend $400-500 wherever you like. That has nothing to do with Marriott offering Lifetime Titanium status ever again. Marriott isn’t going to offer that again. You can stay wherever you like.
Eh?

1) I'm talking about 400-500 nights, not dollars
2) What this has to do with LT Titanium status is, simply explained, this: let's say I'm at 600 nights / 10 years now and just got my LT Platinum. If I know they will not offer me LT Titanium, ever, and I let's say I expect to have another 10 years of travel ahead of me, why would I put them against Marriott for no new additional benefits except the useless SNAs - I'd rather try to reach, say, lifetime Hyatt or Hilton or something else, as an "alternative chain". So I have 400-500 additional room-nights that I can send to Marriott to reach that extra status - or send them elsewhere, where I could gain "something" by doing it. Since I gain nothing by keeping them at Marriott anymore at the current rate, why would I keep doing anything other than "occasional" visits? See what I mean now? This isn't elitist, entitled or selfish - it's numbers.
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Old Jun 29, 2020, 12:30 am
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Originally Posted by Pseudo Nim
Eh?

1) I'm talking about 400-500 nights, not dollars
2) What this has to do with LT Titanium status is, simply explained, this: let's say I'm at 600 nights / 10 years now and just got my LT Platinum. If I know they will not offer me LT Titanium, ever, and I let's say I expect to have another 10 years of travel ahead of me, why would I put them against Marriott for no new additional benefits except the useless SNAs - I'd rather try to reach, say, lifetime Hyatt or Hilton or something else, as an "alternative chain". So I have 400-500 additional room-nights that I can send to Marriott to reach that extra status - or send them elsewhere, where I could gain "something" by doing it. Since I gain nothing by keeping them at Marriott anymore at the current rate, why would I keep doing anything other than "occasional" visits? See what I mean now? This isn't elitist, entitled or selfish - it's numbers.
Very well said! I understood your first post clearly.

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Old Jun 29, 2020, 1:53 am
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While I would be beneficiary to an reintroduction of LTT, however I see this only happening if and only if there is a case for increased revenue and higher occupancy rates in the short term. This will also dictate how any potential threshold will be define. Further if this is done properly it can be a positive tool for MAR to drive revenue.
The main issue for MAR at the moment is to survive the current major crisis for the travel industry so any marginal increase in occupancy rates is more important than it usually would be (its always an important number)... and if this can be achieved on the cheap all the better... If this upsets some who feel their Titanium level becomes less exclusive who cares if it drives revenue...C-suites don't think about overcrowded lounges at a time like this... that is a luxury problem at the moment... "... If that becomes a problem we deal with that down the line..."
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Old Jun 29, 2020, 2:06 am
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Originally Posted by Flying for Fun
Very well said! I understood your first post clearly.

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Eh?

1) I'm talking about 400-500 nights, not dollars
2) What this has to do with LT Titanium status is, simply explained, this: let's say I'm at 600 nights / 10 years now and just got my LT Platinum. If I know they will not offer me LT Titanium, ever, and I let's say I expect to have another 10 years of travel ahead of me, why would I put them against Marriott for no new additional benefits except the useless SNAs - I'd rather try to reach, say, lifetime Hyatt or Hilton or something else, as an "alternative chain". So I have 400-500 additional room-nights that I can send to Marriott to reach that extra status - or send them elsewhere, where I could gain "something" by doing it. Since I gain nothing by keeping them at Marriott anymore at the current rate, why would I keep doing anything other than "occasional" visits? See what I mean now? This isn't elitist, entitled or selfish - it's numbers.
As did I.
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Old Jun 29, 2020, 8:11 am
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I would love the reintroduction of LTT, and here is another example of how it might make business sense. You make it attainable but difficult— ie add a high requirement— maybe even a revenue requirement but once you hit it, you keep the member coming by offering them a discount For simple tasks. So each year they earn 25 paid nights as an LTT they get a week certificate free. That would be a big plus for spend and loyalty.
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Old Jun 29, 2020, 8:40 am
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Originally Posted by samosa
I would love the reintroduction of LTT, and here is another example of how it might make business sense. You make it attainable but difficult— ie add a high requirement— maybe even a revenue requirement but once you hit it, you keep the member coming by offering them a discount For simple tasks. So each year they earn 25 paid nights as an LTT they get a week certificate free. That would be a big plus for spend and loyalty.
Yep something like that. As an LTT, you know you would get relatively good upgrades, etc, so in principle you are attracted to staying at the chain - and by throwing you a bone (ok, maybe not a free week, but a few days or something, just enough to attract you, but not enough for a real vacation, so you'd have to go out of pocket), would drive that extra revenue, imho.
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Old Jun 29, 2020, 9:47 am
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Originally Posted by Pseudo Nim
Yep something like that. As an LTT, you know you would get relatively good upgrades, etc, so in principle you are attracted to staying at the chain - and by throwing you a bone (ok, maybe not a free week, but a few days or something, just enough to attract you, but not enough for a real vacation, so you'd have to go out of pocket), would drive that extra revenue, imho.
One can only hope (and give ideas on FT). As far as the upgrades, I feel like that is not enough these days because LTT doesn't get the same as Titanium. I'll give you an example, as a 75k on Alaska, I don't get the same benefits as a Million Miler. I realize that I will eventually, but I understand that the free snack box they give to MM in coach is tailored to the fact that they are likely to be in coach while I am upgraded, but also do differentiate and give them another reason to use Alaska after reaching the threshold for MM.
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Old Jun 29, 2020, 3:34 pm
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Lifetime Titanium is not coming back. Period.
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Old Jun 29, 2020, 4:29 pm
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Originally Posted by dayone
Lifetime Titanium is not coming back. Period.
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Old Jun 29, 2020, 5:55 pm
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Originally Posted by dayone
Lifetime Titanium is not coming back. Period.
If the CEO thinks or gets convinced that changes to Bonvoy will keep him employed ... you bet changes will happen not only the reintroduction of LTT other sweeping changes as well ...
During times of crisis I have seen all kinds of short sighted business decisions, like cutting long term profitable business units, being implemented just to buy a CEO 12 more months at the helm.. some re-modelling of a LT loyalty program? Of course it will be considered not at the top of the agenda but they will consider it at one point ....
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