Sep 4, 2018, 3:50 pm
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Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2018)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
When converting your legacy certificate to a new certificate your prior certificate is cancelled and your new certificate will (in most cases) have an expiration date that is 12 months from the date of issuance (today).
The codes for the New Category partial packages are:
5-night packages
NCx = new certificate category
QPxx = post-merger converted partial package
OCx = old certificate category
QLxx = post-merger converted partial package (only QL known so far is QL87 for NC7)
xx0T = initial package;
Pxx0 = partial package;
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MARRIOT UK: +44 20 7012 7312
For best practices on converting OC to NC, I’ve copied post # 1181 here. Thank you jameswes!
(Also, never use the word UPGRADE. You must say you want to CONVERT your certs.)
IMPORTANT! Possible Points Advance Implications of March 5 category changes: There’s a (potential) issue with the category changes and Points Advance reservations. Marriott included the following information when they emailed some of us about the upcoming changes: “Points Advance — Members who wish to book a points advance redemption under the current Marriott Rewards and SPG award chart are encouraged to order redemption certificates before March 5 to lock in the rate. On March 5, redemption bookings are subject to the new unified program award chart.” We’ve reached out to Marriott to confirm the practical implications of this verbiage, as it sounds like Points Advance reservations will revert to the new pricing if they don’t have certificates attached prior to March 5. To be on the safe side, if your hotel is increasing in category be sure your TP certificate is attached to the reservation before March 5.
Concerning use of TP for peak or off-peak, see post 2179:
Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2018)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
When converting your legacy certificate to a new certificate your prior certificate is cancelled and your new certificate will (in most cases) have an expiration date that is 12 months from the date of issuance (today).
The codes for the New Category partial packages are:
5-night packages
- OC5=530T/P530 is now NC4 QP53
- OC6=570T/P570 is now NC4 QP53
- OC7=610T/P610 is now NC5 QP61 (refund value: 45K)
- OC8=650T/P650 is now NC5 QP?? (Refund value: 75k)
- OC9=690T/P690 is now NC6 QP69
- NC4 QP83 = OC5 830T/P830 (refund value: 45K)
- NC4 QP87 = OC6 870T/P870 (refund value: 75K)
- NC5 QP91 = OC7 910T/P910 (refund value: 105K)
- NC5 QP95 = OC8 950T/P950 (refund value: 135K)
- NC6 QP99 = OC9 990T/P990 (refund value: 165K)
- NC6 QP99 = OC Tier 1-3 L830 (refund value: 195K)
- NC7 QL87 = OC Tier 4-5 L870 (refund value: 315K)
- NC5 QP88 = OC7 P880 (refund value: 135K)
- NC5 QP92 = OC8 P920 (refund value: 165K)
NCx = new certificate category
QPxx = post-merger converted partial package
OCx = old certificate category
QLxx = post-merger converted partial package (only QL known so far is QL87 for NC7)
xx0T = initial package;
Pxx0 = partial package;
************************************************** *******
MARRIOT UK: +44 20 7012 7312
For best practices on converting OC to NC, I’ve copied post # 1181 here. Thank you jameswes!
(Also, never use the word UPGRADE. You must say you want to CONVERT your certs.)
New data point for the new year.
I've read/followed the majority of this thread and now that I have a plan for how to use the travel certificates I made it happen
Last July, I purchased two OC1-5 travel packages. I have an upcoming trip that I wanted to use the certificates to book two rooms at an NC5 hotel.
1) Verified that I had an extra 120,000 MR points in my account (2x60,000 to upgrade from NC4 to NC5)
2) Call the UK Marriott # in the wiki (+44 20 7012 7312). In total, the call took about 25 minutes.
3) Explain that I have a booking I wanted to make, and I wanted to Cancel my two 830T certificates and convert them to two QP91 certificates. I did need to be clear with the rep that I was going to be using additional points from my account to upgrade the certificate.
Canceling two 830T (OC1-5) added 90,000 points (2x45000) to my account
Ordering two QP91 (NC5) subtracted 210,000 points (2x105K) from my account
4) The rep said that their "specialist" wasn't in the office, but she would leave detailed notes and have him do it the next day
5) True to form, the next day (today), I got an emails saying that my old certificates were canceled and new certificates were ordered.
Email clearly states that 830T certs were canceled
Second email clearly states that QP91 certs were ordered and 210K points were redeemed
Email (and account) state that the expiration is one year from today
As typical, App is up-to-date, website doesn't show the updated information yet.
I've read/followed the majority of this thread and now that I have a plan for how to use the travel certificates I made it happen
Last July, I purchased two OC1-5 travel packages. I have an upcoming trip that I wanted to use the certificates to book two rooms at an NC5 hotel.
1) Verified that I had an extra 120,000 MR points in my account (2x60,000 to upgrade from NC4 to NC5)
2) Call the UK Marriott # in the wiki (+44 20 7012 7312). In total, the call took about 25 minutes.
3) Explain that I have a booking I wanted to make, and I wanted to Cancel my two 830T certificates and convert them to two QP91 certificates. I did need to be clear with the rep that I was going to be using additional points from my account to upgrade the certificate.
Canceling two 830T (OC1-5) added 90,000 points (2x45000) to my account
Ordering two QP91 (NC5) subtracted 210,000 points (2x105K) from my account
4) The rep said that their "specialist" wasn't in the office, but she would leave detailed notes and have him do it the next day
5) True to form, the next day (today), I got an emails saying that my old certificates were canceled and new certificates were ordered.
Email clearly states that 830T certs were canceled
Second email clearly states that QP91 certs were ordered and 210K points were redeemed
Email (and account) state that the expiration is one year from today
As typical, App is up-to-date, website doesn't show the updated information yet.
Concerning use of TP for peak or off-peak, see post 2179:
The new award redemption chart will not impact Travel Packages. After these changes go into effect, you'll be able to book a hotel within the category assigned to your Travel Package, regardless of whether the dates at the hotel are in off-peak, standard or peak rates.
Travel Package General Discussion Thread
Feb 11, 2019, 3:03 pm
#1351
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This is what I learnt from all the reading.
Feb 11, 2019, 3:39 pm
#1352
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Location: bay area, ca
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Not quite - I detached a cert when cancelling a reservation and it shows up in my account as OC
Feb 11, 2019, 5:46 pm
#1353
Join Date: Feb 2019
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Any ideas on the upgrade cost for 5-night packages? Looking to go from OC5 to NC6.
I believe OC5 refund is 10k, so an upgrade to NC5 would be 35k?
Haven't found the numbers for NC6, can anybody lend a hand?
Data point for QP53
Description: PARTIAL PACKAGE - 5 NIGHTS CATEGORY 1-4
Reward code: QP53
Valid through: Tuesday, February 11, 2020
Total points redeemed: 10,000
I believe OC5 refund is 10k, so an upgrade to NC5 would be 35k?
Haven't found the numbers for NC6, can anybody lend a hand?
Data point for QP53
Description: PARTIAL PACKAGE - 5 NIGHTS CATEGORY 1-4
Reward code: QP53
Valid through: Tuesday, February 11, 2020
Total points redeemed: 10,000
Feb 11, 2019, 7:05 pm
#1354
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Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Barcelona, London, on a plane
Programs: BA Silver, TK E+, AA PP, Hyatt Globalist, Marriott LT Plat, Hilton Diamond
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With the upcoming category changes just announced could someone please refresh my memory: if you do a points advance booking before a hotel goes up from NC4 to NC5 can you then still attach an NC4 certificate to that reservation after the category change on March 5th? In theory the certificate should still cover the 150k points but I have a feeling they'll spin it the other way.
I would appreciate your help as every single property I'm considering for my OC1-5 is going up to NC5.
I would appreciate your help as every single property I'm considering for my OC1-5 is going up to NC5.
Feb 11, 2019, 7:06 pm
#1355
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Feb 11, 2019, 7:27 pm
#1356
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When I changed my reservation, I converted the OC to NC to my benefits. When I detached it, I kept the benefits. I'd be worse of keeping the original OC. We'll just have to balance out the cost benefits....
Feb 11, 2019, 7:39 pm
#1357
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Location: bay area, ca
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?????? How is this to your benefit? I'm simply delaying to have a later expiration date
Feb 11, 2019, 7:55 pm
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Feb 11, 2019, 8:37 pm
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Feb 12, 2019, 7:08 am
#1362
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I called MR and advised that my plans had changed, that I wanted to detach my TP and I needed to change my reservation from seven nights to two nights using a FN & 35K for them.
As per instructions, the agent carried them out and detached my OC8 which remains is in my account, the seven night reservation is now a 2 night reservation and the FN certificate & 35K points were taken to pay for them. The total time of the call from dialing to completion was 4 minutes, 44 seconds.
There was no mention of a requirement to convert when detached. I will wait to convert until I decide where I want to stay for 7 nights.
James
Feb 12, 2019, 7:12 am
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Feb 12, 2019, 10:21 am
#1364
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Just a data point. Called UK office and got lucky that I have connected to a rep knew exactly what I am talking about. I have got it converted in less than 5 mins. Thanks all!