Another pathetic cut from marriott : Make a Green Choice >> -67%
#151
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Agreed on the preaching but no need to worry about the workers. There's always a shortage of housekeepers so any savings in housekeeping hours just means less of a need for recruiting.
#152
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I laughed reading it, but I have to give you credit for the spin "Most hotels are short-staffed anyway so this doesn't have any actual impact on any current employees".
#153
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https://osucascades.edu/sites/osucas...ortage_tmm.pdf
No housekeeping programs/incentives aren't unique to Marriott ... it's an industry wide trend. Obviously, there aren't any safety issues associated with it. I have no idea what percentage of the guests in a typical hotel skip housekeeping (most of my stays are just one nighters) but even if its 20 percent, that won't have much of an impact considering labor shortages, absenteeism, and employee turnover.
#155
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Amsterdam, The Netherlands
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I regret it, and I do not like Marriott at all, I try to avoid Marriott hotels and try to book the former Starwood hotels. I know I am fooling myself since they have becom Marriott hotels. One can feel an different attitude at the reception, talking al lot about categories and rates, instead of looking at the wishes of a long term loyal guest. But I still opt for MAGC for our planet. Even when housekeeping is cleaning in a sustainable way, the wasmachines and ironmachines cost a lot of energy and it uses washpowder and liquids, withening etc etc. No, not every day all my linen of the bed washed.
But I do like it to have the housekeeping make up my bed and make to clean up my room / suite. But evertime I hear its not possible.
But I do like it to have the housekeeping make up my bed and make to clean up my room / suite. But evertime I hear its not possible.
#156
Join Date: Mar 2005
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It appears the MAGC benefit has gone from earning points for a maximum of 3 nights to earning points for a maximum of 2 nights. At least that’s what I’m seeing on the reservation I just did mobile check-in for.
#157
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Pittsburgh Pennsylvania
Programs: Marriott Platinum, Starwood Platinum
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Yup it went down. Not surprising, Marriott ruining even the little points you used to get. It's amazing how greedy this company is now. Well then again, maybe it isn't.
#158
Join Date: Dec 2006
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cheers!
Last edited by AAir_head; Mar 10, 2020 at 12:51 pm
#159
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Aberdeen, Scotland
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Even thought I was doing the MAGC (want the points plus was just travelling this time myself) and thus didn't get housekeeping, someone did visit my room to drop off bottles of water.
#160
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,512
Boy, I remember watching Arne when the merge first happened saying how great things are going to be...…….even better than what they were / are at the time; How much better the program is going to be...…..yada, yada, yada.
Always see him getting interviewed where the questions are planned etc., for the positive. Would love to see him sit down on National TV in front of real members and throw some questions his way with data to show how everything has gotten worse!
….I miss SPG soooooo much!
Always see him getting interviewed where the questions are planned etc., for the positive. Would love to see him sit down on National TV in front of real members and throw some questions his way with data to show how everything has gotten worse!
….I miss SPG soooooo much!
#161
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: New Jersey
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For those of you who do select MAGC, what do you do about tipping? About a year or so ago, I switched to daily tipping, instead of one bigger tip at the end of the stay (seems to reward the staff that actually did the work).
Now, with MAGC, on the last day (for a shorter stay) or on the "cleaning day" for longer stays, I still tip for the unserviced days, since I'm guessing the staff didn't get a raise to cover the rooms they're no longer cleaning. Or have the hotels gotten really good at predicting the number of MAGC rooms, so that the staff they do still employ still clean the same number of rooms as before?
Now, with MAGC, on the last day (for a shorter stay) or on the "cleaning day" for longer stays, I still tip for the unserviced days, since I'm guessing the staff didn't get a raise to cover the rooms they're no longer cleaning. Or have the hotels gotten really good at predicting the number of MAGC rooms, so that the staff they do still employ still clean the same number of rooms as before?
#162
Join Date: Jul 2009
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For those of you who do select MAGC, what do you do about tipping? About a year or so ago, I switched to daily tipping, instead of one bigger tip at the end of the stay (seems to reward the staff that actually did the work).
Now, with MAGC, on the last day (for a shorter stay) or on the "cleaning day" for longer stays, I still tip for the unserviced days, since I'm guessing the staff didn't get a raise to cover the rooms they're no longer cleaning. Or have the hotels gotten really good at predicting the number of MAGC rooms, so that the staff they do still employ still clean the same number of rooms as before?
Now, with MAGC, on the last day (for a shorter stay) or on the "cleaning day" for longer stays, I still tip for the unserviced days, since I'm guessing the staff didn't get a raise to cover the rooms they're no longer cleaning. Or have the hotels gotten really good at predicting the number of MAGC rooms, so that the staff they do still employ still clean the same number of rooms as before?
#163
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That said, I do tip in cases where exceptional service is provided or to positions where tips are part of the wage such as waitstaff. I don't tip the check in person on a regular basis either and I don't think most do either.
#164
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I do make a green choice at every hotel where it's offered. Out of the past 20 times, I have NEVER gotten the points automatically. Each one takes 3-4 weeks of chasing via Twitter. Definitely a bait and switch program.