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Ambassador Service general phone line (USA): (866) 924-9885
Europe: +353-21-4861 222
USA: +1-866-924-9885
Asia : +86-20-38157156
Marriott Bonvoy ‘Ambassador Elite’ Level : experiences (2020 and earlier)
#2206
Join Date: Feb 2018
Programs: Bonvoy :Ambassador , ALL :Diamond, Skywards :Silver, Krisflyer :Silver
Posts: 2,808
mine just 18 nights so far .. maybe needs more before the spending shown
#2207
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 1,620
My wife has tried to keep an open mind about the Ambassador service, but really things are exactly the same as they were prior to be elevated to Ambassador service. She made a few requests of the Ambassador and twice she was told that the Ambassador would forward her request to the hotel. The first request (a room away from the elevator as this particular hotel has thin doors and one can hear the beep beep beep of the elevator all night long) somehow that request got lost in the shuffle and the request was never honored, she was assigned a room next to the elevator, whatever stuff happens, the second request was acknowledged but never acted upon (it was a dinner reservation) as the restaurant was booked and nobody though to alert my wife to the situation. When nobody said anything to her upon check-in, she asked and then the front desk employee found a note in the system that the restaurant was fully booked and that was that, no apology, nada.
Her upgrade percentage is exactly the same as it was prior to the merger almost non-existent, but she stays at mostly Marriott properties which tend to have fewer suites to begin with, so that is okay with her. Honestly, she has all but forgotten about the Ambassador and has not even contact her in about a month or so as she has said a few times what is the point, she takes requests but is unable to ensure that the hotel delivers on them (not the Ambassadors fault, but still makes the entire thing useless).
About the only thing that Ambassador was able to deliver on were two point corrections, but generally that is easily enough fixed by the standard phone reps.
Her upgrade percentage is exactly the same as it was prior to the merger almost non-existent, but she stays at mostly Marriott properties which tend to have fewer suites to begin with, so that is okay with her. Honestly, she has all but forgotten about the Ambassador and has not even contact her in about a month or so as she has said a few times what is the point, she takes requests but is unable to ensure that the hotel delivers on them (not the Ambassadors fault, but still makes the entire thing useless).
About the only thing that Ambassador was able to deliver on were two point corrections, but generally that is easily enough fixed by the standard phone reps.
Last edited by kmersh; Mar 22, 2019 at 2:58 pm Reason: made a few typos
#2208
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: HKG • Ex SFO, NYC
Programs: UA 1K, AA EXP; Marriott Amb; Hyatt Globalist; Shangri-la Diamond; IHG SpireAmb; Hilton D; Accor G
Posts: 3,319
I'm at 38 nights and no spend counter is showing
#2209
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: PHL
Programs: AA ExP, Marriott Amb, National EAE, Hilton Diamond, SPG Plat (RIP), US CP (RIP)
Posts: 2,379
Ambassador benefit... email documentation of tasks otherwise verbally handled. (registration for promotions for example or missing free night cert that is not visible in my account)
#2210
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Homeless
Programs: Hyatt Glob; Hilton Dia; Marriott AMB; Accor Dia; IHG Dia Amb; GHA Tit
Posts: 4,843
I have to say, I have seen a noticable difference since being bumped up to Ambassador in the new program.
my suite rate at Marriott has gone from about <5% to over 70%. The difference is stunning. When I see everyone here complaining about losing suite upgrades, my only thought is “yeah, because they are all going to Ambassadors now”.
my suite rate at Marriott has gone from about <5% to over 70%. The difference is stunning. When I see everyone here complaining about losing suite upgrades, my only thought is “yeah, because they are all going to Ambassadors now”.
Do you mind sharing what brands have upgraded you within your 70% success rate, and what brands did not upgrade you to a suite within the 30% failure rate, and whether the lack of upgrade was due to the hotel being full or simply because the hotel simply seems to have a preference to not give out such upgrades.
For example I am curious to hear about recent suite upgrade treatment for brands such as Ritz, EDITION, and Design, when suites are available. Are Design hotels still out of scope for upgrades? And whether brands at the cheaper end of the scale have started to be more generous than in the past.
I am usually somewhat confident about the odds of getting suite upgrades (when available) at "middle" brands such as Westin, Marriott, etc. but I am less clear about brands at the top end and bottom end.
#2211
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 4,115
That's great to hear!
Do you mind sharing what brands have upgraded you within your 70% success rate, and what brands did not upgrade you to a suite within the 30% failure rate, and whether the lack of upgrade was due to the hotel being full or simply because the hotel simply seems to have a preference to not give out such upgrades.
Do you mind sharing what brands have upgraded you within your 70% success rate, and what brands did not upgrade you to a suite within the 30% failure rate, and whether the lack of upgrade was due to the hotel being full or simply because the hotel simply seems to have a preference to not give out such upgrades.
Marriott 5/7
Ren 2/2
St R 1/1
CY 3/4
AC 1/1
#2212
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Homeless
Programs: Hyatt Glob; Hilton Dia; Marriott AMB; Accor Dia; IHG Dia Amb; GHA Tit
Posts: 4,843
Just looked it up. Stays so far this year upgraded to suites are below. As to reasons for non-upgrades, no clue. I don’t ask and don’t honestly have much curiosity about it. I just note that my upgrade rate jumped, significantly.
Marriott 5/7
Ren 2/2
St R 1/1
CY 3/4
AC 1/1
I suspect suite upgrades at Design hotels remains elusive, and RC+EDITION are a bit hit and miss. But I would be pleased to hear otherwise. I am looking forward to hear from others.
#2213
Join Date: Feb 2017
Programs: DL DM, UA Gold, Alaska MVP, Bonvoy (lol) Ambassador
Posts: 2,994
Is anyone else having issues with the spend showing? I thought it was told upthread that once you hit 50 nights it would show? I don't see it either on the website nor the app. I see someone upthread with a spend counter even below 50 nights - maybe it's an iPhone versus Android issue? I'm not worried about hitting the spend limit by year end - I am more concerned about it not calculating correctly and want to be able to make sure spend tracks correctly...
Also - for all the people talking upthread about upgrade success.. I'm 1 out of 36 nights on suites staying at a mix of Marriotts, Westins, Luxury Collections, Autograph Collection, Courtyards, and Renaissances. The one "suite" upgrade was to a hospitality suite at the Westin St. Francis so not sure that even counts.
Also - for all the people talking upthread about upgrade success.. I'm 1 out of 36 nights on suites staying at a mix of Marriotts, Westins, Luxury Collections, Autograph Collection, Courtyards, and Renaissances. The one "suite" upgrade was to a hospitality suite at the Westin St. Francis so not sure that even counts.
#2214
Join Date: Dec 2005
Programs: AA EXP, Marriott Amb Elite & LT Titanium, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 1,230
I have to say, I have seen a noticable difference since being bumped up to Ambassador in the new program. I am a severely low maintenance traveler with over 2500 lifetime nights (was lifetime plat in both programs pre-merger), so my “sampling data” is extensive. But most of my recent pre-merger history was all Marriott vs SPG.
I don’t care about suites in general, most especially when traveling alone. I’m the weird person who doesn’t even desire a massive suite when I’m alone as it “complicates” my routines. I never ask about them at checkin,
But my suite rate at Marriott has gone from about <5% to over 70%. The difference is stunning. When I see everyone here complaining about losing suite upgrades, my only thought is “yeah, because they are all going to Ambassadors now”. I spent many years as a plat premier in the old Marriott program and it never made the slightest difference. But now, the difference has been big.
A couple requests to my Ambassador have been handled with ease (couple airport pickups, one points issue). I do feel my Ambassador is more useful than my Hyatt concierge, FWIW.
Anyway, as a mostly pre-merger Marriott person, the Ambassador level has been a big boost up.
I don’t care about suites in general, most especially when traveling alone. I’m the weird person who doesn’t even desire a massive suite when I’m alone as it “complicates” my routines. I never ask about them at checkin,
But my suite rate at Marriott has gone from about <5% to over 70%. The difference is stunning. When I see everyone here complaining about losing suite upgrades, my only thought is “yeah, because they are all going to Ambassadors now”. I spent many years as a plat premier in the old Marriott program and it never made the slightest difference. But now, the difference has been big.
A couple requests to my Ambassador have been handled with ease (couple airport pickups, one points issue). I do feel my Ambassador is more useful than my Hyatt concierge, FWIW.
Anyway, as a mostly pre-merger Marriott person, the Ambassador level has been a big boost up.
Moving to SPG 5 years ago significantly upgraded my travel. Suddenly those suite ugs came through (of course Marriott's policy was officially ugs to better rooms only). Needless to say I was not excited about the 'merger'.
I'm fascinated by this thread, because I've experience the good and the bad of the program. It pretty simply comes down to there are Ambassadors that live up to the 'standards' and those that don't. I went through 3 of them before I found my current Ambassador, who is great. She was great at SPG and is great at Marriott. So I'm not surprised to hear people that are unhappy and people that are happy.
I will say I know that there is a lot of stress in the Ambassador system since August. Just the fact that the Ambassador has had to double check reservations that were made before the merger, especially if they were on the SPG side, is a work load level that is not normal. From the stories my Ambassador has shared, the Marriott IT failure has been huge. If the programs had been seamlessly integrated it would be one thing but that's not what happened. I don't think Marriott has gotten to normal operations as of yet, which effectively increases the work load on the Ambassadors as they cover for the IT failures.
#2215
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: LGA/JFK/EWR
Programs: UA 1K1.75MM, Hyatt Globalist, abandoned Marriott LTT (RIP SPG), Hertz PC
Posts: 21,172
Marriott hates its customers, and thus won’t show your spend. They are the masters in opacity.
Though i have somehow qualified for Ambassador through Jan 2020. Ironic as I have ditched Marriott for any paid stays.
Though i have somehow qualified for Ambassador through Jan 2020. Ironic as I have ditched Marriott for any paid stays.
#2216
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Chicago
Programs: UA 1K, Alaska MVP Gold 75k, Marriott Ambassador
Posts: 13
My ambassador has done exactly 0 things for me. Our only contact was her sending a form email to me saying what she can do. When I asked what she could do that I can't do on my own, she replied with the same form email.
#2217
Suspended
Join Date: Jun 2005
Programs: Delta Diamond, Marriott Ambassador & Lifetime Titanium, Hertz President's Circle, United Silver
Posts: 6,334
Everyone who has had issues or is still having issues, including unresponsive or unhelpful ambassadors, should let Marriott management know. It's difficult for them to claim they don't know if they get emails about it.
Arne Sorenson, CEO <[email protected]>
David Flueck, vice president of loyalty <[email protected]>
Arne Sorenson, CEO <[email protected]>
David Flueck, vice president of loyalty <[email protected]>
#2218
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Homeless
Programs: Hyatt Glob; Hilton Dia; Marriott AMB; Accor Dia; IHG Dia Amb; GHA Tit
Posts: 4,843
Also - for all the people talking upthread about upgrade success.. I'm 1 out of 36 nights on suites staying at a mix of Marriotts, Westins, Luxury Collections, Autograph Collection, Courtyards, and Renaissances. The one "suite" upgrade was to a hospitality suite at the Westin St. Francis so not sure that even counts.
I have personally seen one Westin and one LC not upgrade me to a suite when they were available. But otherwise more often than not, I get the upgrade.
#2219
Suspended
Join Date: Jun 2005
Programs: Delta Diamond, Marriott Ambassador & Lifetime Titanium, Hertz President's Circle, United Silver
Posts: 6,334
I ask at the time of check-in using the Marriot mobile application. In 45 nights this year, I've had an upgrade 41 of the 45 nights.
#2220
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: LGA/JFK/EWR
Programs: UA 1K1.75MM, Hyatt Globalist, abandoned Marriott LTT (RIP SPG), Hertz PC
Posts: 21,172
I think "upgrades" should really be further defined in this thread
IMO a higher floor, corner room, club level, etc. - not an upgrade.
Anything less than a Jr. Suite - not an upgrade
"Upgrades" at a CY? Should really call those out as int'l, I'm assuming
IMO a higher floor, corner room, club level, etc. - not an upgrade.
Anything less than a Jr. Suite - not an upgrade
"Upgrades" at a CY? Should really call those out as int'l, I'm assuming