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Old Oct 20, 2020, 11:44 am
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I will work on this on the next few days but most of the info is very old and outdated.


I have been using all of these the last 2 years and I will update what other people have started along with some tools on how to buy on multiple accounts if people want this info. This is just a quick first draft. I will clean up and add more details.

please dont .... up the work I will put into this. please message me and I can add more data and I have more buying groups that I can add
  1. Pointsmaker - pointsmaker.com - Notifies via email . You buy and upload tracking number - Payment comes pretty quick same day most often via echeck once item is checked in
  2. MYS Buying Group - mysbuyinggroup.com Notifies via email . You buy and upload tracking number - Payment comes pretty quick once item is checked in echeck
    MYS has the most complaints of all, from very late payment to not receiving items. Many people have given up on MYS.
  3. USA Buying Group - usabuying.group same as others regarding loading the tracking number. slowest payment of all. alerts come via whatsapp and email and response time is medium to issues
  4. YRCW - app.yrcwtech.com same as others alertss comes via whatsapp - payments can be slow. response time to issues are pretty quick via communication thru wahtsapp to owner
  5. Buy For Me Retail - The best. buyformeretail.com deals are posted on page. offers sent thru email. payment sent ach when they are checked i
  6. EMB - embdeals.com same as above - a great one as well. alerts via whatsapp. payments can be requested same day and will arrive same day. lots of offers last amazon prime.
  7. EMB - From late 2021 through August 2022, Several reports of missing packages, more complaints than most of the other groups. Buyers Beware.
  8. TheDealBuyer - thedealbuyer.com - Seems to be very new to the game. Not using whatsapp, but Pushover to send deals.
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Old Aug 4, 2023 | 6:43 pm
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Originally Posted by dizl11
My experience/opinion on some of the bigger groups after buying from a few of them:
Background of which BG I have used the most, for context: BFMR>MOD>BG

BFMR: The fastest and most consistent payment out of ALL groups. Usually, the scan is done on the same day or the latest by the next day. They offer lots of deals with no limits, including a mix of at-cost/below-cost deals. However, they also have the highest amount of theft among the groups. It's quite an issue with warehouse workers in NH stealing many items. If you check Discord, you'll hear about numerous reports. I've had packages show up with just the box and no Apple items inside. I no longer purchase from BFMR because it's hard to break with the theft unless you're sending $70k+ worth of items per month. If you consistently send to them, expect stolen packages and factor that into your profit/loss calculations.

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So when it comes to BFMR I would say the stuff with regards to theft/missing is mostly Amazon (which i would never send to BFMR) and specifically Apple. Take these products out the equation, and there is not much missing with them otherwise. Just don't do Amazon to BFMR.
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Old Aug 5, 2023 | 9:31 am
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Originally Posted by DealAddict
So when it comes to BFMR I would say the stuff with regards to theft/missing is mostly Amazon (which i would never send to BFMR) and specifically Apple. Take these products out the equation, and there is not much missing with them otherwise. Just don't do Amazon to BFMR.
not just Amazon. Its also an issue with Costco shipments theyve had whole pallets go missing.
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Old Aug 8, 2023 | 11:02 am
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Originally Posted by Clueless12
not just Amazon. Its also an issue with Costco shipments theyve had whole pallets go missing.
where do this missing stuff go? who the .... steels? or is it groups that they lie about not received stuff?
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Old Aug 8, 2023 | 11:06 am
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Originally Posted by Clueless12
not just Amazon. Its also an issue with Costco shipments theyve had whole pallets go missing.
Did BFMR do anything about it?
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Old Aug 8, 2023 | 11:36 am
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Originally Posted by crazypaving
where do this missing stuff go? who the .... steels? or is it groups that they lie about not received stuff?
Does it matter? You are not getting your money back either way. The BG is not going to do a thing.
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Old Aug 8, 2023 | 12:54 pm
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From my personal experiences I don't do business with BFMR / EMB / MYS. Lack of customer service/slow payments and with BFMR I had most missing packages out of any group.
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Old Aug 9, 2023 | 9:10 am
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Originally Posted by dwatcher
From my personal experiences I don't do business with BFMR / EMB / MYS. Lack of customer service/slow payments and with BFMR I had most missing packages out of any group.
There are serious issues with the distribution center where BFMR's primary warehouse is located. (And their secondaries, for what it's worth). Though it might not be BFMR's fault that the theft there is so rampant, it certainly did not care to do anything about it. If you had any issue they would not help you beyond "investigating" for a bit and telling you that they did not receive the package (so basically nothing that you didn't already know before you open a ticket with them). You are on your own trying to recover anything. They certainly know about it because SOOOO many people reported issues, here, on their discord, and on other forums. I personally find it a disingenuous way to do business, asking people to send shipments to a location where they know the risk of theft is so high. But they are still afloat, so I guess there are always people willing to take that risk.
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Old Aug 9, 2023 | 1:52 pm
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Originally Posted by fishfood
There are serious issues with the distribution center where BFMR's primary warehouse is located. (And their secondaries, for what it's worth). Though it might not be BFMR's fault that the theft there is so rampant, it certainly did not care to do anything about it. If you had any issue they would not help you beyond "investigating" for a bit and telling you that they did not receive the package (so basically nothing that you didn't already know before you open a ticket with them). You are on your own trying to recover anything. They certainly know about it because SOOOO many people reported issues, here, on their discord, and on other forums. I personally find it a disingenuous way to do business, asking people to send shipments to a location where they know the risk of theft is so high. But they are still afloat, so I guess there are always people willing to take that risk.
BFMR use to be the go to group for new people starting out, but not anymore. I quit sending them watches and AirPods a long time ago due to theft. Now Im completely done. I never did BC deals with them and wont even do breakeven.
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Old Aug 9, 2023 | 1:57 pm
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Originally Posted by Clueless12
BFMR use to be the go to group for new people starting out, but not anymore. I quit sending them watches and AirPods a long time ago due to theft. Now Im completely done. I never did BC deals with them and wont even do breakeven.
Cannot agree more. They used to scan and pay on the same day. Definitely the go-to group. How the mighty have fallen.
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Old Aug 20, 2023 | 12:51 pm
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All of them are more or less the same. Claiming items not received is one of their way to make money. Doing business by scam won't last long. Let's see whether they will encounter lawsuit.
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Old Aug 20, 2023 | 1:25 pm
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Originally Posted by fishfood
Not much. They said they believe an Amazon driver stole everything and asked me to ask for refund. If Amazon refuses, file a dispute.

I've stopped doing BGs at this point since it looks like Amzn really cracked down on BGs and most of them have their address flagged as FF, which means if anything happens to the packages sent there (missing, delayed, return takes too long to process, empty box, wrong item, etc), it would be a nightmare to deal with Amazon as most reps will just repeat the "contact ff, we won't do ...." line like a robot. It really isn't worth the headache given the razor thin margin and all the upkeep one has to do to track everything.

To add oil on fire, Amzn also seems to be very very trigger happy recently when deciding to suspend or outright ban accounts. I had my personal accounts banned twice for buying a couple thousand dollars worth of Apple products in one order. Once I get them unlocked, some of the orders are "missing" from history. Amazon will tell you it cancelled them because it suspected they were placed by hackers, but in reality they still ship. My cards got charged, I even got email notifications from Amazon telling me they shipped, but I cannot find them on Amazon's website to actually get the tracking numbers. Luckily I have my buyer IDs in the shipping addresses so they eventually got scanned under my account, but you can imagine my stress. I had to replace all my Amazon credit cards just to make sure that Amazon would not arbitrarily charge the "missing" orders without telling me. I also opened a couple of business accounts, thinking they are disposable (I have ebooks/movies under my personal accounts that I would not want to risk losing), but Amazon would just outright closed them after buying a couple of iPads not even worth more than a thousand dollars... And of course they still shipped and I don't have the tracking numbers again...

In short, the gravy train has finally come to a stop, in my view at least. Between BGs losing packages left and right, Amzn flagging all the them FFs, and closing accounts all over the place, it really is not a game that I can keep up with.
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Thanks for teh sharing! I experienced the same thing twice recently. My account got suspended by Amazon. After one day or two, they reinstated my account, but all the orders got deleted. Those orders still shipped, but I could not get a tracking number. What a nightmire!
get to the order info by using link in confirmation email
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Old Aug 30, 2023 | 2:45 pm
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MYS Late payments

MYS is now horrible. I requested payment 6 weeks ago and still waiting. I opened 2 tickets and now they stopped responding. I notice they dont have new deals anymore. Hope they are not in trouble
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Old Aug 30, 2023 | 6:05 pm
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Originally Posted by fishfood
Cannot agree more. They used to scan and pay on the same day. Definitely the go-to group. How the mighty have fallen.
​​​​​​​Same. they use to be my go to for their fast check-ins. Then all the horror stores of missing Apple products, so I stopped sending them any Apple products. Now, everything seems to be going missing here and there. Not worth the risk anymore, I just stopped while I was ahead.

I only do a few orders for PM here and there now. The are sometimes a little slow to checkin but they seems to still be mostly ok
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Old Sep 14, 2023 | 12:42 pm
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PFS had a deal on Travis Scott tickets but after purchasing the tickets they are now saying we won't pay the commission or you have to wait indefinitely to be reimbursed and paid commission. Any feedback - are they a shoddy outfit?
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Old Sep 14, 2023 | 12:45 pm
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Originally Posted by dwatcher
From my personal experiences I don't do business with BFMR / EMB / MYS. Lack of customer service/slow payments and with BFMR I had most missing packages out of any group.
which groups you do biz with now?
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