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Old Jan 9, 2018, 7:46 pm
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This is a new thread for 2018. The previous discussion can be found here.

As of Nov 11, 2020, Meta gebits are getting declined when used for MO/BP purchases at MC/SD. New limit appears to be $99 per swipe. READ the posts below and add a data point with details. USB and GD gift cards do not seem to be affected.

DETAILS:
As of Dec 2019, WM BP in-store is reportedly affected by the $8000 total limit across all cards.
As of Nov 1, 2018, WM Billpay made via the WM app is limited to a total of $8000 total per person to all accounts per rolling 30 days.

Sep 13 2021 : If WM App is updated with no money services , then use the following for Android phone to get the working version.


https://www.apkmirror.com/?post_type...ge=1&s=walmart
My working version is 21.12 (21120123)
Fyr : https://www.androidpolice.com/2021/0...n-app-android/

This workaround no longer works.

Bill Pay cannot be done at a regular register. BP must be done at Customer Service/Returns or at the Money Center in stores that have it.
WM offers two BP services: CheckFreePAY and MoneyGram. The cashier can initiate CheckFreePAY by selecting Money Services followed by Bill Pay on the register for a fee of $1-1.88. Moneygram is $4.99.
ONLY 4 successful debit card swipes can pay for a transaction. ONLY 5 payments per 16 digit account number per rolling 30 days.
CheckFreePay (800) 676-6148. - Look up payments using CC number and time of transaction
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BP by phone number lookup- Once your CFP account is set up, you can add CC. When you want to BP give them your phone# to look up your account under Money Services. They often get confused and think you want MG, but just say it is under Money Services. Make sure you get 2 receipts, one from WM and a small one from CFP showing the CC# and Biller name you paid.

WM App - The Money Services works in express lane for Bill Pay.

Receipt tips: If you don't get a receipt and they have to print you one, make sure the CC you paid appears on the printed receipt. If not on receipt, call CFP with the manager to verify there is no payment processing. They can cancel any transactions and pay you in cash right away. If they cancel the transaction and their cash drawer opens, that means they should pay you in cash, if it doesn't open, the money will probably return to your cards. Not sure what happens on the same day? Watch their drawer when they cancel the transaction to see if it opens. If they say the money will return to your DC, make sure to write down the managers name in case it doesn't.

Payments:
Most cc can be paid 5 times by Visa/MC and 5 times by the issuing bank in rolling 30 days with a total of 10. There might be an 8K limit per rolling 30 days starting Oct 2018.

BUSINESS DAY transaction completion time is 18:59:59 EST (Holidays change post day)

Friday after 06:59PM EST, until Monday BEFORE 07:00PM EST arrives Tuesday
Tuesday BEFORE 7:00PM arrives Wednesday
Wednesday BEFORE 07:00PM arrives Thursday
Thursday BEFORE 07:00PM arrives Friday
Friday BEFORE 07:00PM arrives Monday
But when a next-day payment will post and be visible depends upon the CC issuer.

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Choose to pay by Visa/MC card issuer OR by issuing bank - see the 2 sections below.

:-:VISA and MC - card issuer-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
If your particular card isn't on the list below, try "VISA" or "MASTERCARD."

"VISA" and "MASTERCARD" payee can no longer be found by search at some stores. If the employee can no longer find "VISA" or "MASTERCARD" by searching in CheckFreePAY, then you cannot pay either, end of story.

Following do not work:

Any and all Vanilla VISA, Vanilla MC, and OneVanilla VISA.
Glimcher VISA MASTERCARD
$1.50 next day.

Works:Bank of America Cash Rewards Business MC
Barclay (Arrival, US Airways) MC - Posts at 11PM EST, credit available 1AM EST
Chase Business Ink Bold MC
Citi AAdvantage (Platinum Select, Executive, Business) MC - Posts at 3AM EST (+1 day)
Citi ThankYou Preferred MC
Citi AT&T MC
CitiBusiness Platinum Select MC

Does not work:Barclay Business US Airways MC - NOT PAYABLE - tried 2x
VISA
$1.50 next day.

Works:Barclay Priceline VS
Chase (Amazon, Freedom, Sapphire Preferred, United, Slate) VS - Posts at 11PM EST
Chase Business Ink Bold VS, Chase Ink Plus
Citi (AAdvantage, Dividend, ThankYou Preferred) VS
FIA Fidelity VS
PNC CashBuilder VS
US Bank (Cash+, Club Carlson, Flexperks) VS
Navy Federal Credit Union Visa
Wells Fargo Cashback VS
Does not work:TD Bank VS - [Source]
Alliant Credit Union Cashback Visa Signature
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:-:Issuing Bank--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Discover - Use for all Discover network cards
$1.50 next day, $1.00 three days.

American Express AMEX cards(SPG, BC, BCE, BCP, etc) cannot be paid through CheckFreePAY. Some AMEX cards issued by other banks can be paid, but they can be paid using MoneyGram for $4.99

Barclay Listed under barclay - need biller zip - $1.50 next day, $1.00 three days

Bank of America Credit Cards - Use for BoA-issued; will not work for BofA Small Business cards.
$1.50 next day, $1.00 three days. (Will require a ZIP but apparently yours will work as well as theirs, which is 19886)
Works:

BoA Alaska Airlines VisaDoes not work:

BofA Asiana Business card
Capital One
$1.50 next day.

Personal and business CCs
Elan Financial Services
$1.50 next day.

Fidelity Visa
PNC Bank - Use for PNC-issued Visa network cards
$1.50 next day, $1.00 three days.

PNC CashBuilder VS
Warning: Some users have reported being shutdown for using bill pay services.




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Old Oct 1, 2021, 9:49 am
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Originally Posted by persoid
For both of those two (wu and mg) it's possible, but the fees are exorbitant and defeat the purpose.
Is there any other shop , where we can do billpay and who accepts meta ? Walgreens / cvs / kroger/safeway?
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Old Oct 3, 2021, 12:14 am
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Could be that Walmart just didn’t finish implementing the Bill Pay stuff in the new app transition? The WM website has a notice makes it sound like it is only a temporary thing and they’re planning to add it back in the future.
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Old Oct 3, 2021, 5:59 am
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Originally Posted by yepperoni
Could be that Walmart just didn’t finish implementing the Bill Pay stuff in the new app transition? The WM website has a notice makes it sound like it is only a temporary thing and they’re planning to add it back in the future.
Why transition to a new, partially functioning app when the old one worked?

I suspect that there may have been a more sinister financial play occurring than just MSers using the app to pay CC bills with GCs
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Old Oct 3, 2021, 10:11 am
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Originally Posted by yepperoni
Could be that Walmart just didn’t finish implementing the Bill Pay stuff in the new app transition? The WM website has a notice makes it sound like it is only a temporary thing and they’re planning to add it back in the future.
I suspect this is the case. I found this article that might hint at what they are doing: https://www.nwaonline.com/news/2021/...ying-platform/

Basically they are using "PayNearMe" which is a new platform for bill pay. I looked into it, and it looks like you *might* be able to pay in person or through an app with cash/debit and possibly credit. I'm guessing the fees will be higher now.
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Old Oct 3, 2021, 1:02 pm
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Originally Posted by drmolly
I suspect this is the case. I found this article that might hint at what they are doing: https://www.nwaonline.com/news/2021/...ying-platform/

Basically they are using "PayNearMe" which is a new platform for bill pay. I looked into it, and it looks like you *might* be able to pay in person or through an app with cash/debit and possibly credit. I'm guessing the fees will be higher now.
It is interesting that the method ("PayNearMe") being used to pay the bill is the same one that Go2 Bank is using for depositing cash into their account.

According to the article, you get a QR code from the biller you wish to pay, and then bring it and cash (or I presume a debit card) to WM, scan the QR code and give WM the money + fee. The process with Go2 is exactly the same. Get a QR code from Go2 and bring it and money to WM (or other retailer) for deposit.

I have no idea why anyone would want to do this. You can pay most bills (at least the ones WM works with) directly on-line without the added steps and fees using a credit or actual debit card in most cases. Failing that, open a checking account and write a check. Or open a BB account and pay via BB.

There are so many options that even the unbanked could use that are better than what I read about WM's new "bill pay" in that citation.
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Old Oct 3, 2021, 1:14 pm
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Originally Posted by radonc1
It is interesting that the method ("PayNearMe") being used to pay the bill is the same one that Go2 Bank is using for depositing cash into their account.

According to the article, you get a QR code from the biller you wish to pay, and then bring it and cash (or I presume a debit card) to WM, scan the QR code and give WM the money + fee. The process with Go2 is exactly the same. Get a QR code from Go2 and bring it and money to WM (or other retailer) for deposit.

I have no idea why anyone would want to do this. You can pay most bills (at least the ones WM works with) directly on-line without the added steps and fees using a credit or actual debit card in most cases. Failing that, open a checking account and write a check. Or open a BB account and pay via BB.

There are so many options that even the unbanked could use that are better than what I read about WM's new "bill pay" in that citation.
Don't overestimate the intelligence of typical WM consumer. I see people in line to pay their electric bills, or to get a $2 discount on some crap they bought a week earlier at a higher price.
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Old Oct 5, 2021, 11:04 am
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Now that they're forcing CFP into the stores, and cards were run as credit in the app, would it be a good idea to try and run as credit in the store?
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Old Oct 5, 2021, 2:01 pm
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Originally Posted by RVRS
Now that they're forcing CFP into the stores, and cards were run as credit in the app, would it be a good idea to try and run as credit in the store?
Nope. I paid with a debit card (real one) just a couple of days ago in person and I had to input my pin number. It defaulted to debit.
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Old Oct 6, 2021, 9:57 pm
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Bill pay area of the app is no longer accessible.

Last edited by persoid; Oct 8, 2021 at 11:10 am Reason: wrong info
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Old Oct 6, 2021, 10:22 pm
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Originally Posted by persoid
It appears the BP area of the app is still accessible even with the update push.

Apple or Droid?
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Old Oct 7, 2021, 9:39 am
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Originally Posted by bbriscoe34
Apple or Droid?
This was a fluke. No longer working.

Last edited by persoid; Oct 8, 2021 at 11:11 am Reason: wrong info.
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Old Oct 7, 2021, 9:46 am
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Originally Posted by persoid
Android.
How do you get to that screen? There's nothing in my app that I can find that has that look anymore (the dark blue with the 3 bars).
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Old Oct 7, 2021, 12:21 pm
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For 'Money Center', I'm still getting "Continue on website".
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Old Oct 7, 2021, 1:57 pm
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BOOOOO This sucks. Hopefully the new solution from PayNearMe provides similar functionality (or better). I hate going to the stores. This (bill pay via debit in app up to$750) was such a great addition when it came out.
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Old Oct 8, 2021, 9:17 pm
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Has WM dropped CFP altogether? I went in the store to make a few payments given the app issues. CS could not pull any of my payments or my profile using my phone number. She had to create a new profile ... As she was searching for payment options for the biller, WU and MG came up. I chose WU for 1.50 per bill. There was also a third option, whose name escapes me for $1.25. what ever happened to CFP?
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