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This is a new thread for 2018. The previous discussion can be found here.
As of Nov 11, 2020, Meta gebits are getting declined when used for MO/BP purchases at MC/SD. New limit appears to be $99 per swipe. READ the posts below and add a data point with details. USB and GD gift cards do not seem to be affected.
DETAILS:
As of Dec 2019, WM BP in-store is reportedly affected by the $8000 total limit across all cards.
As of Nov 1, 2018, WM Billpay made via the WM app is limited to a total of $8000 total per person to all accounts per rolling 30 days.
Sep 13 2021 :If WM App is updated with no money services , then use the following for Android phone to get the working version.
https://www.apkmirror.com/?post_type...ge=1&s=walmart
My working version is 21.12 (21120123)
Fyr : https://www.androidpolice.com/2021/0...n-app-android/
This workaround no longer works.
Bill Pay cannot be done at a regular register. BP must be done at Customer Service/Returns or at the Money Center in stores that have it.
WM offers two BP services: CheckFreePAY and MoneyGram. The cashier can initiate CheckFreePAY by selecting Money Services followed by Bill Pay on the register for a fee of $1-1.88. Moneygram is $4.99.
ONLY 4 successful debit card swipes can pay for a transaction. ONLY 5 payments per 16 digit account number per rolling 30 days.
CheckFreePay (800) 676-6148. - Look up payments using CC number and time of transaction ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
BP by phone number lookup- Once your CFP account is set up, you can add CC. When you want to BP give them your phone# to look up your account under Money Services. They often get confused and think you want MG, but just say it is under Money Services. Make sure you get 2 receipts, one from WM and a small one from CFP showing the CC# and Biller name you paid.
WM App - The Money Services works in express lane for Bill Pay.
Receipt tips: If you don't get a receipt and they have to print you one, make sure the CC you paid appears on the printed receipt. If not on receipt, call CFP with the manager to verify there is no payment processing. They can cancel any transactions and pay you in cash right away. If they cancel the transaction and their cash drawer opens, that means they should pay you in cash, if it doesn't open, the money will probably return to your cards. Not sure what happens on the same day? Watch their drawer when they cancel the transaction to see if it opens. If they say the money will return to your DC, make sure to write down the managers name in case it doesn't.
Payments: Most cc can be paid 5 times by Visa/MC and 5 times by the issuing bank in rolling 30 days with a total of 10. There might be an 8K limit per rolling 30 days starting Oct 2018.
BUSINESS DAY transaction completion time is 18:59:59 EST (Holidays change post day)
Friday after 06:59PM EST, until Monday BEFORE 07:00PM EST arrives Tuesday
Tuesday BEFORE 7:00PM arrives Wednesday
Wednesday BEFORE 07:00PM arrives Thursday
Thursday BEFORE 07:00PM arrives Friday
Friday BEFORE 07:00PM arrives Monday
But when a next-day payment will post and be visible depends upon the CC issuer.
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Choose to pay by Visa/MC card issuer OR by issuing bank - see the 2 sections below.
:-:VISA and MC - card issuer-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
If your particular card isn't on the list below, try "VISA" or "MASTERCARD."
"VISA" and "MASTERCARD" payee can no longer be found by search at some stores. If the employee can no longer find "VISA" or "MASTERCARD" by searching in CheckFreePAY, then you cannot pay either, end of story.
Following do not work:
Any and all Vanilla VISA, Vanilla MC, and OneVanilla VISA.
Glimcher VISA MASTERCARD
$1.50 next day.
Works:Bank of America Cash Rewards Business MC
Barclay (Arrival, US Airways) MC - Posts at 11PM EST, credit available 1AM EST
Chase Business Ink Bold MC
Citi AAdvantage (Platinum Select, Executive, Business) MC - Posts at 3AM EST (+1 day)
Citi ThankYou Preferred MC
Citi AT&T MC
CitiBusiness Platinum Select MC
Does not work:Barclay Business US Airways MC - NOT PAYABLE - tried 2x
VISA
$1.50 next day.
Works:Barclay Priceline VS
Chase (Amazon, Freedom, Sapphire Preferred, United, Slate) VS - Posts at 11PM EST
Chase Business Ink Bold VS, Chase Ink Plus
Citi (AAdvantage, Dividend, ThankYou Preferred) VS
FIA Fidelity VS
PNC CashBuilder VS
US Bank (Cash+, Club Carlson, Flexperks) VS
Navy Federal Credit Union Visa
Wells Fargo Cashback VS
Does not work:TD Bank VS - [Source]
Alliant Credit Union Cashback Visa Signature
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:-:Issuing Bank--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Discover - Use for all Discover network cards
$1.50 next day, $1.00 three days.
American Express AMEX cards(SPG, BC, BCE, BCP, etc) cannot be paid through CheckFreePAY. Some AMEX cards issued by other banks can be paid, but they can be paid using MoneyGram for $4.99
Barclay Listed under barclay - need biller zip - $1.50 next day, $1.00 three days
Bank of America Credit Cards - Use for BoA-issued; will not work for BofA Small Business cards.
$1.50 next day, $1.00 three days. (Will require a ZIP but apparently yours will work as well as theirs, which is 19886)
Works:
BoA Alaska Airlines VisaDoes not work:
BofA Asiana Business card
Capital One
$1.50 next day.
Personal and business CCs
Elan Financial Services
$1.50 next day.
Fidelity Visa
PNC Bank - Use for PNC-issued Visa network cards
$1.50 next day, $1.00 three days.
PNC CashBuilder VS
Warning: Some users have reported being shutdown for using bill pay services.
As of Nov 11, 2020, Meta gebits are getting declined when used for MO/BP purchases at MC/SD. New limit appears to be $99 per swipe. READ the posts below and add a data point with details. USB and GD gift cards do not seem to be affected.
DETAILS:
As of Dec 2019, WM BP in-store is reportedly affected by the $8000 total limit across all cards.
As of Nov 1, 2018, WM Billpay made via the WM app is limited to a total of $8000 total per person to all accounts per rolling 30 days.
Sep 13 2021 :
My working version is 21.12 (21120123)
Fyr : https://www.androidpolice.com/2021/0...n-app-android/
This workaround no longer works.
Bill Pay cannot be done at a regular register. BP must be done at Customer Service/Returns or at the Money Center in stores that have it.
WM offers two BP services: CheckFreePAY and MoneyGram. The cashier can initiate CheckFreePAY by selecting Money Services followed by Bill Pay on the register for a fee of $1-1.88. Moneygram is $4.99.
ONLY 4 successful debit card swipes can pay for a transaction. ONLY 5 payments per 16 digit account number per rolling 30 days.
CheckFreePay (800) 676-6148. - Look up payments using CC number and time of transaction
BP by phone number lookup- Once your CFP account is set up, you can add CC. When you want to BP give them your phone# to look up your account under Money Services. They often get confused and think you want MG, but just say it is under Money Services. Make sure you get 2 receipts, one from WM and a small one from CFP showing the CC# and Biller name you paid.
WM App - The Money Services works in express lane for Bill Pay.
Receipt tips: If you don't get a receipt and they have to print you one, make sure the CC you paid appears on the printed receipt. If not on receipt, call CFP with the manager to verify there is no payment processing. They can cancel any transactions and pay you in cash right away. If they cancel the transaction and their cash drawer opens, that means they should pay you in cash, if it doesn't open, the money will probably return to your cards. Not sure what happens on the same day? Watch their drawer when they cancel the transaction to see if it opens. If they say the money will return to your DC, make sure to write down the managers name in case it doesn't.
Payments: Most cc can be paid 5 times by Visa/MC and 5 times by the issuing bank in rolling 30 days with a total of 10. There might be an 8K limit per rolling 30 days starting Oct 2018.
BUSINESS DAY transaction completion time is 18:59:59 EST (Holidays change post day)
Friday after 06:59PM EST, until Monday BEFORE 07:00PM EST arrives Tuesday
Tuesday BEFORE 7:00PM arrives Wednesday
Wednesday BEFORE 07:00PM arrives Thursday
Thursday BEFORE 07:00PM arrives Friday
Friday BEFORE 07:00PM arrives Monday
But when a next-day payment will post and be visible depends upon the CC issuer.
--------------------------------------------------------------
Choose to pay by Visa/MC card issuer OR by issuing bank - see the 2 sections below.
:-:VISA and MC - card issuer-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
If your particular card isn't on the list below, try "VISA" or "MASTERCARD."
"VISA" and "MASTERCARD" payee can no longer be found by search at some stores. If the employee can no longer find "VISA" or "MASTERCARD" by searching in CheckFreePAY, then you cannot pay either, end of story.
Following do not work:
Any and all Vanilla VISA, Vanilla MC, and OneVanilla VISA.
Glimcher VISA MASTERCARD
$1.50 next day.
Works:Bank of America Cash Rewards Business MC
Barclay (Arrival, US Airways) MC - Posts at 11PM EST, credit available 1AM EST
Chase Business Ink Bold MC
Citi AAdvantage (Platinum Select, Executive, Business) MC - Posts at 3AM EST (+1 day)
Citi ThankYou Preferred MC
Citi AT&T MC
CitiBusiness Platinum Select MC
Does not work:Barclay Business US Airways MC - NOT PAYABLE - tried 2x
VISA
$1.50 next day.
Works:Barclay Priceline VS
Chase (Amazon, Freedom, Sapphire Preferred, United, Slate) VS - Posts at 11PM EST
Chase Business Ink Bold VS, Chase Ink Plus
Citi (AAdvantage, Dividend, ThankYou Preferred) VS
FIA Fidelity VS
PNC CashBuilder VS
US Bank (Cash+, Club Carlson, Flexperks) VS
Navy Federal Credit Union Visa
Wells Fargo Cashback VS
Does not work:TD Bank VS - [Source]
Alliant Credit Union Cashback Visa Signature
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:-:Issuing Bank--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Discover - Use for all Discover network cards
$1.50 next day, $1.00 three days.
American Express AMEX cards(SPG, BC, BCE, BCP, etc) cannot be paid through CheckFreePAY. Some AMEX cards issued by other banks can be paid, but they can be paid using MoneyGram for $4.99
Barclay Listed under barclay - need biller zip - $1.50 next day, $1.00 three days
Bank of America Credit Cards - Use for BoA-issued; will not work for BofA Small Business cards.
$1.50 next day, $1.00 three days. (Will require a ZIP but apparently yours will work as well as theirs, which is 19886)
Works:
BoA Alaska Airlines VisaDoes not work:
BofA Asiana Business card
Capital One
$1.50 next day.
Personal and business CCs
Elan Financial Services
$1.50 next day.
Fidelity Visa
PNC Bank - Use for PNC-issued Visa network cards
$1.50 next day, $1.00 three days.
PNC CashBuilder VS
Warning: Some users have reported being shutdown for using bill pay services.
Billpay at Walmart (2018 onwards)
#1681
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 559
Are you trying to pay the same card and issuer combination again and again ? May be use different card account , issuer
I have got transaction declined errors for Chase, Barclays , BOA even though i am under the 8k per account or 5 times per account . And i have paid for the exact same cards using Visa or Mastercard as issuer and it worked fine.
I if i am over the limits , i get "Transaction declined" before the verification page.
I have got transaction declined errors for Chase, Barclays , BOA even though i am under the 8k per account or 5 times per account . And i have paid for the exact same cards using Visa or Mastercard as issuer and it worked fine.
I if i am over the limits , i get "Transaction declined" before the verification page.
#1682
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: SEA
Programs: UA 1K 1.9MM; AS; GP D; HH D
Posts: 132
This is happening early on in the process, right after the "Personal info" and "Account info" pages (my recollection is the the CFP limit block happens at the end of the process). Regardless, I have not got a payment through in over 30 days, so I don't think it is a CFP block, but probably a Walmart one
#1683
Join Date: Apr 2021
Posts: 60
This is happening early on in the process, right after the "Personal info" and "Account info" pages (my recollection is the the CFP limit block happens at the end of the process). Regardless, I have not got a payment through in over 30 days, so I don't think it is a CFP block, but probably a Walmart one
#1685
Join Date: Mar 2005
Programs: Continental Onepass, Hilton, Marriott, USAir and now UA
Posts: 6,440
#1686
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: NJ
Posts: 221
Hi folks. I'm looking to occasionally liquidate some VGC ($500 per), to my Citi DC & Chase Freedom. I've successfully done small test payments to both. Would paying a few VGC ($500), each month or so towards those cards create any issues ? I certainly don't want to lose my relationship with Chase, so would only use a few cards occasionally. My listed income is verifiable and the addition of these cards would not be substantial compared to my normal monthly spend.
I've read that these payments are not traceable to the bank, is that really true ? Thanks for an input cheers
I've read that these payments are not traceable to the bank, is that really true ? Thanks for an input cheers
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#1687
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 2,295
Hi folks. I'm looking to occasionally liquidate some VGC ($500 per), to my Citi DC & Chase Freedom. I've successfully done small test payments to both. Would paying a few VGC ($500), each month or so towards those cards create any issues ? I certainly don't want to lose my relationship with Chase, so would only use a few cards occasionally. My listed income is verifiable and the addition of these cards would not be substantial compared to my normal monthly spend.
I've read that these payments are not traceable to the bank, is that really true ? Thanks for an input cheers
I've read that these payments are not traceable to the bank, is that really true ? Thanks for an input cheers
My basic advice is don't MS with banks whose relationship you value.
#1689
Join Date: Mar 2005
Programs: Continental Onepass, Hilton, Marriott, USAir and now UA
Posts: 6,440
Hi folks. I'm looking to occasionally liquidate some VGC ($500 per), to my Citi DC & Chase Freedom. I've successfully done small test payments to both. Would paying a few VGC ($500), each month or so towards those cards create any issues ? I certainly don't want to lose my relationship with Chase, so would only use a few cards occasionally. My listed income is verifiable and the addition of these cards would not be substantial compared to my normal monthly spend.
I've read that these payments are not traceable to the bank, is that really true ? Thanks for an input cheers
I've read that these payments are not traceable to the bank, is that really true ? Thanks for an input cheers
Do your MSing activity with them, not your primary banks.
However, in truth, doing $500-1000 a month in an account that is 5-10x larger in activity will probably not result in any adverse event, but if you're a nervous nelly
#1690
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: NJ
Posts: 221
Setting up a secondary bank account takes minutes. If you use a credit union, it will not cost you a cent.
Do your MSing activity with them, not your primary banks.
However, in truth, doing $500-1000 a month in an account that is 5-10x larger in activity will probably not result in any adverse event, but if you're a nervous nelly
Do your MSing activity with them, not your primary banks.
However, in truth, doing $500-1000 a month in an account that is 5-10x larger in activity will probably not result in any adverse event, but if you're a nervous nelly
#1691
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 27
is the 5 payments / 30 days ONLY apply to credit card billers + account? or All types of billers? Trying to figure out if it's possible to make 6+ payments / 30 days for mortgage, utilities etc. Searched but most of the discussion is around paying credit card so it's not entirely clear.
Thanks
Thanks
#1692
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 120
So, the new version of the app (it's on a relatively new Android; if your Android is older, you may still have the old version) sends us to MG website for all of the online payments, but it looks like it's impossible to pay a CC online via MG:
https://www.moneygram.com/walmart/us...q/paying-bills
Did I get that right?
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https://www.moneygram.com/walmart/us...q/paying-bills
Did I get that right?
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What kind of payments can I make using MoneyGram?
expand_moreMoneyGram has over 13,000 companies that you can pay. You can make the following payments at MoneyGram:- Mortgage
- Auto Finance
- Cable and Satellite
- Child Support Services
- Collections
- Credit Card (cannot pay online - must be at an agent location)
- Health Care
- Inmate
- Insurance
- Mobile Phone Top-up
- Phone Bill
- Prepaid Credit Cards (agent location only)
- Rent
- Tolls and Taxes Utility Bills - electric, gas, sewer, water
Last edited by NikSem; Aug 14, 2021 at 9:42 pm