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Old Jan 9, 2018, 7:46 pm
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This is a new thread for 2018. The previous discussion can be found here.

As of Nov 11, 2020, Meta gebits are getting declined when used for MO/BP purchases at MC/SD. New limit appears to be $99 per swipe. READ the posts below and add a data point with details. USB and GD gift cards do not seem to be affected.

DETAILS:
As of Dec 2019, WM BP in-store is reportedly affected by the $8000 total limit across all cards.
As of Nov 1, 2018, WM Billpay made via the WM app is limited to a total of $8000 total per person to all accounts per rolling 30 days.

Sep 13 2021 : If WM App is updated with no money services , then use the following for Android phone to get the working version.


https://www.apkmirror.com/?post_type...ge=1&s=walmart
My working version is 21.12 (21120123)
Fyr : https://www.androidpolice.com/2021/0...n-app-android/

This workaround no longer works.

Bill Pay cannot be done at a regular register. BP must be done at Customer Service/Returns or at the Money Center in stores that have it.
WM offers two BP services: CheckFreePAY and MoneyGram. The cashier can initiate CheckFreePAY by selecting Money Services followed by Bill Pay on the register for a fee of $1-1.88. Moneygram is $4.99.
ONLY 4 successful debit card swipes can pay for a transaction. ONLY 5 payments per 16 digit account number per rolling 30 days.
CheckFreePay (800) 676-6148. - Look up payments using CC number and time of transaction
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BP by phone number lookup- Once your CFP account is set up, you can add CC. When you want to BP give them your phone# to look up your account under Money Services. They often get confused and think you want MG, but just say it is under Money Services. Make sure you get 2 receipts, one from WM and a small one from CFP showing the CC# and Biller name you paid.

WM App - The Money Services works in express lane for Bill Pay.

Receipt tips: If you don't get a receipt and they have to print you one, make sure the CC you paid appears on the printed receipt. If not on receipt, call CFP with the manager to verify there is no payment processing. They can cancel any transactions and pay you in cash right away. If they cancel the transaction and their cash drawer opens, that means they should pay you in cash, if it doesn't open, the money will probably return to your cards. Not sure what happens on the same day? Watch their drawer when they cancel the transaction to see if it opens. If they say the money will return to your DC, make sure to write down the managers name in case it doesn't.

Payments:
Most cc can be paid 5 times by Visa/MC and 5 times by the issuing bank in rolling 30 days with a total of 10. There might be an 8K limit per rolling 30 days starting Oct 2018.

BUSINESS DAY transaction completion time is 18:59:59 EST (Holidays change post day)

Friday after 06:59PM EST, until Monday BEFORE 07:00PM EST arrives Tuesday
Tuesday BEFORE 7:00PM arrives Wednesday
Wednesday BEFORE 07:00PM arrives Thursday
Thursday BEFORE 07:00PM arrives Friday
Friday BEFORE 07:00PM arrives Monday
But when a next-day payment will post and be visible depends upon the CC issuer.

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Choose to pay by Visa/MC card issuer OR by issuing bank - see the 2 sections below.

:-:VISA and MC - card issuer-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
If your particular card isn't on the list below, try "VISA" or "MASTERCARD."

"VISA" and "MASTERCARD" payee can no longer be found by search at some stores. If the employee can no longer find "VISA" or "MASTERCARD" by searching in CheckFreePAY, then you cannot pay either, end of story.

Following do not work:

Any and all Vanilla VISA, Vanilla MC, and OneVanilla VISA.
Glimcher VISA MASTERCARD
$1.50 next day.

Works:Bank of America Cash Rewards Business MC
Barclay (Arrival, US Airways) MC - Posts at 11PM EST, credit available 1AM EST
Chase Business Ink Bold MC
Citi AAdvantage (Platinum Select, Executive, Business) MC - Posts at 3AM EST (+1 day)
Citi ThankYou Preferred MC
Citi AT&T MC
CitiBusiness Platinum Select MC

Does not work:Barclay Business US Airways MC - NOT PAYABLE - tried 2x
VISA
$1.50 next day.

Works:Barclay Priceline VS
Chase (Amazon, Freedom, Sapphire Preferred, United, Slate) VS - Posts at 11PM EST
Chase Business Ink Bold VS, Chase Ink Plus
Citi (AAdvantage, Dividend, ThankYou Preferred) VS
FIA Fidelity VS
PNC CashBuilder VS
US Bank (Cash+, Club Carlson, Flexperks) VS
Navy Federal Credit Union Visa
Wells Fargo Cashback VS
Does not work:TD Bank VS - [Source]
Alliant Credit Union Cashback Visa Signature
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:-:Issuing Bank--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Discover - Use for all Discover network cards
$1.50 next day, $1.00 three days.

American Express AMEX cards(SPG, BC, BCE, BCP, etc) cannot be paid through CheckFreePAY. Some AMEX cards issued by other banks can be paid, but they can be paid using MoneyGram for $4.99

Barclay Listed under barclay - need biller zip - $1.50 next day, $1.00 three days

Bank of America Credit Cards - Use for BoA-issued; will not work for BofA Small Business cards.
$1.50 next day, $1.00 three days. (Will require a ZIP but apparently yours will work as well as theirs, which is 19886)
Works:

BoA Alaska Airlines VisaDoes not work:

BofA Asiana Business card
Capital One
$1.50 next day.

Personal and business CCs
Elan Financial Services
$1.50 next day.

Fidelity Visa
PNC Bank - Use for PNC-issued Visa network cards
$1.50 next day, $1.00 three days.

PNC CashBuilder VS
Warning: Some users have reported being shutdown for using bill pay services.




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Old Sep 5, 2021, 4:58 pm
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Originally Posted by bbriscoe34
So do you have to use a US Bank card the first time or do Simon's work at Moneycenter for billpay somehow?

Also can you split tender in the app after you are setup?
Simon VGC will not work at the moneycenter over $99. And there is no split-tender in the app.
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Old Sep 5, 2021, 8:14 pm
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Originally Posted by danpeake
You have to successfully complete a BP from my memory - but it's been years. And no; one card in the app.
Weirdly today the app changed and now lists online as an option in addition to in-store
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Old Sep 5, 2021, 9:30 pm
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Originally Posted by foryoureyesonly
Trying to get started on WMBP via online, however, I only have the option to start and save a biller on the app and pay in-store. Is this due to the new version of the WM app? Sorry, I am new to this method. Thank you for any inputs.
Let me know if you get setup in store and are able to then pay in app from home. I made a payment in store tonight and afterwards it still said it couldn't verify my identity in app and I would again have to pay in store.
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Old Sep 6, 2021, 12:17 pm
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What is the limit on billpay on WM APP? I see it is showing $700 limit per transaction. but is there any limit daily or monthly? Thanks.

Also FYI guys please do not do it heavily. Citi shut me down before pandemic. All four doublecash, prestige, AA and premier are closed. All citi points are gone but they gave me AA points
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Old Sep 6, 2021, 1:06 pm
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Originally Posted by kingscross
What is the limit on billpay on WM APP? I see it is showing $700 limit per transaction. but is there any limit daily or monthly? Thanks.
No one knows.
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Old Sep 6, 2021, 4:11 pm
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Originally Posted by danpeake
No one knows.
it’s $8k per 30 days
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Old Sep 6, 2021, 4:50 pm
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Originally Posted by bbriscoe34
it’s $8k per 30 days
that's my experience as well. 30 days from the day you hit $8k.
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Old Sep 6, 2021, 5:09 pm
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Originally Posted by mensday
that's my experience as well. 30 days from the day you hit $8k.
In other words, there's a 30-day cooling off period after each $8k you run? Or just a straight-up $8k limit in a given 30-day period?
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Old Sep 6, 2021, 5:24 pm
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Originally Posted by danpeake
In other words, there's a 30-day cooling off period after each $8k you run? Or just a straight-up $8k limit in a given 30-day period?
When app payments got introduced, I went nuts with it and did mid-7k range of payments in under a month. Then I got blocked (along with a bunch of you) for about a month, then it cleared up again. I haven't tried to push the limits since, I just do in store payments, and only use app for odd cards that don't work in store.
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Old Sep 6, 2021, 9:13 pm
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Originally Posted by littlewinglet
When app payments got introduced, I went nuts with it and did mid-7k range of payments in under a month. Then I got blocked (along with a bunch of you) for about a month, then it cleared up again. I haven't tried to push the limits since, I just do in store payments, and only use app for odd cards that don't work in store.
>> When you say you got blocked, does that mean in the app you are allowed till the last step after ID verification but the payment gets denied or are you denied in the initial steps itself where you get stopped when you select the cc you want to pay. I am still trying to figure why i am being denied on the last step, i made over 6k but under 8k for sure in payments in last 30days...
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Old Sep 6, 2021, 9:20 pm
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Originally Posted by arthur404
>> When you say you got blocked, does that mean in the app you are allowed till the last step after ID verification but the payment gets denied or are you denied in the initial steps itself where you get stopped when you select the cc you want to pay. I am still trying to figure why i am being denied on the last step, i made over 6k but under 8k for sure in payments in last 30days...
Don't recall now, you may want to look back to posts here from Dec/Jan. and see what people were posting. I was still able to do in-store payments at that point so I didn't bother pushing the in-app payments for a month and a half, then it started working again.
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Old Sep 7, 2021, 7:26 am
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Originally Posted by bbriscoe34
it’s $8k per 30 days
Allegedly. Hasn't always applied to me, though......
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Old Sep 7, 2021, 11:10 am
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So I've made my first BP in walmart after I set it up in the app, scanned the barcode, etc. But now when I try to pay in App, it gets to the verify your identity part then says it can't verify. Is there a number to call to troubleshoot this? I don't expect the CSR in store would be of any technical help.
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Old Sep 7, 2021, 11:39 am
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Originally Posted by bbriscoe34
So I've made my first BP in walmart after I set it up in the app, scanned the barcode, etc. But now when I try to pay in App, it gets to the verify your identity part then says it can't verify. Is there a number to call to troubleshoot this? I don't expect the CSR in store would be of any technical help.
Doubtful you'll get any useful help from WU phone support. If you get "can't verify identity" error before it even lets you send a code by TXT, then it may be an issue with your phone # or address, who knows. If the phone verification doesn't work, it should give you option for alternate verification. You may just have to wait and try again, or it may never work. Based on past DPs nobody here could ever figure it out.
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Old Sep 7, 2021, 12:34 pm
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I saw this on the website:
https://www.walmart.com/help/article...1440eeaa4faaea
"Mobile Money ServicesMobile Money Center services are temporarily unavailable on the new Walmart app experience.

Visit your store’s Money Center or Customer Service counter for:
  • Bill Pay
  • Money transfers
  • Check cashing"
Is this new or old news and does it only apply selectively to certain users?
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