Jan 9, 2018, 7:46 pm
Last edit by: IAD_flyer
This is a new thread for 2018. The previous discussion can be found here.
As of Nov 11, 2020, Meta gebits are getting declined when used for MO/BP purchases at MC/SD. New limit appears to be $99 per swipe. READ the posts below and add a data point with details. USB and GD gift cards do not seem to be affected.
DETAILS:
As of Dec 2019, WM BP in-store is reportedly affected by the $8000 total limit across all cards.
As of Nov 1, 2018, WM Billpay made via the WM app is limited to a total of $8000 total per person to all accounts per rolling 30 days.
Sep 13 2021 :If WM App is updated with no money services , then use the following for Android phone to get the working version.
https://www.apkmirror.com/?post_type...ge=1&s=walmart
My working version is 21.12 (21120123)
Fyr : https://www.androidpolice.com/2021/0...n-app-android/
This workaround no longer works.
Bill Pay cannot be done at a regular register. BP must be done at Customer Service/Returns or at the Money Center in stores that have it.
WM offers two BP services: CheckFreePAY and MoneyGram. The cashier can initiate CheckFreePAY by selecting Money Services followed by Bill Pay on the register for a fee of $1-1.88. Moneygram is $4.99.
ONLY 4 successful debit card swipes can pay for a transaction. ONLY 5 payments per 16 digit account number per rolling 30 days.
CheckFreePay (800) 676-6148. - Look up payments using CC number and time of transaction ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
BP by phone number lookup- Once your CFP account is set up, you can add CC. When you want to BP give them your phone# to look up your account under Money Services. They often get confused and think you want MG, but just say it is under Money Services. Make sure you get 2 receipts, one from WM and a small one from CFP showing the CC# and Biller name you paid.
WM App - The Money Services works in express lane for Bill Pay.
Receipt tips: If you don't get a receipt and they have to print you one, make sure the CC you paid appears on the printed receipt. If not on receipt, call CFP with the manager to verify there is no payment processing. They can cancel any transactions and pay you in cash right away. If they cancel the transaction and their cash drawer opens, that means they should pay you in cash, if it doesn't open, the money will probably return to your cards. Not sure what happens on the same day? Watch their drawer when they cancel the transaction to see if it opens. If they say the money will return to your DC, make sure to write down the managers name in case it doesn't.
Payments: Most cc can be paid 5 times by Visa/MC and 5 times by the issuing bank in rolling 30 days with a total of 10. There might be an 8K limit per rolling 30 days starting Oct 2018.
BUSINESS DAY transaction completion time is 18:59:59 EST (Holidays change post day)
Friday after 06:59PM EST, until Monday BEFORE 07:00PM EST arrives Tuesday
Tuesday BEFORE 7:00PM arrives Wednesday
Wednesday BEFORE 07:00PM arrives Thursday
Thursday BEFORE 07:00PM arrives Friday
Friday BEFORE 07:00PM arrives Monday
But when a next-day payment will post and be visible depends upon the CC issuer.
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Choose to pay by Visa/MC card issuer OR by issuing bank - see the 2 sections below.
:-:VISA and MC - card issuer-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
If your particular card isn't on the list below, try "VISA" or "MASTERCARD."
"VISA" and "MASTERCARD" payee can no longer be found by search at some stores. If the employee can no longer find "VISA" or "MASTERCARD" by searching in CheckFreePAY, then you cannot pay either, end of story.
Following do not work:
Any and all Vanilla VISA, Vanilla MC, and OneVanilla VISA.
Glimcher VISA MASTERCARD
$1.50 next day.
Works:Bank of America Cash Rewards Business MC
Barclay (Arrival, US Airways) MC - Posts at 11PM EST, credit available 1AM EST
Chase Business Ink Bold MC
Citi AAdvantage (Platinum Select, Executive, Business) MC - Posts at 3AM EST (+1 day)
Citi ThankYou Preferred MC
Citi AT&T MC
CitiBusiness Platinum Select MC
Does not work:Barclay Business US Airways MC - NOT PAYABLE - tried 2x
VISA
$1.50 next day.
Works:Barclay Priceline VS
Chase (Amazon, Freedom, Sapphire Preferred, United, Slate) VS - Posts at 11PM EST
Chase Business Ink Bold VS, Chase Ink Plus
Citi (AAdvantage, Dividend, ThankYou Preferred) VS
FIA Fidelity VS
PNC CashBuilder VS
US Bank (Cash+, Club Carlson, Flexperks) VS
Navy Federal Credit Union Visa
Wells Fargo Cashback VS
Does not work:TD Bank VS - [Source]
Alliant Credit Union Cashback Visa Signature
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:-:Issuing Bank--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Discover - Use for all Discover network cards
$1.50 next day, $1.00 three days.
American Express AMEX cards(SPG, BC, BCE, BCP, etc) cannot be paid through CheckFreePAY. Some AMEX cards issued by other banks can be paid, but they can be paid using MoneyGram for $4.99
Barclay Listed under barclay - need biller zip - $1.50 next day, $1.00 three days
Bank of America Credit Cards - Use for BoA-issued; will not work for BofA Small Business cards.
$1.50 next day, $1.00 three days. (Will require a ZIP but apparently yours will work as well as theirs, which is 19886)
Works:
BoA Alaska Airlines VisaDoes not work:
BofA Asiana Business card
Capital One
$1.50 next day.
Personal and business CCs
Elan Financial Services
$1.50 next day.
Fidelity Visa
PNC Bank - Use for PNC-issued Visa network cards
$1.50 next day, $1.00 three days.
PNC CashBuilder VS
Warning: Some users have reported being shutdown for using bill pay services.
As of Nov 11, 2020, Meta gebits are getting declined when used for MO/BP purchases at MC/SD. New limit appears to be $99 per swipe. READ the posts below and add a data point with details. USB and GD gift cards do not seem to be affected.DETAILS:
As of Dec 2019, WM BP in-store is reportedly affected by the $8000 total limit across all cards.
As of Nov 1, 2018, WM Billpay made via the WM app is limited to a total of $8000 total per person to all accounts per rolling 30 days.
Sep 13 2021 :
My working version is 21.12 (21120123)
Fyr : https://www.androidpolice.com/2021/0...n-app-android/
This workaround no longer works.
Bill Pay cannot be done at a regular register. BP must be done at Customer Service/Returns or at the Money Center in stores that have it.
WM offers two BP services: CheckFreePAY and MoneyGram. The cashier can initiate CheckFreePAY by selecting Money Services followed by Bill Pay on the register for a fee of $1-1.88. Moneygram is $4.99.
ONLY 4 successful debit card swipes can pay for a transaction. ONLY 5 payments per 16 digit account number per rolling 30 days.
CheckFreePay (800) 676-6148. - Look up payments using CC number and time of transaction
BP by phone number lookup- Once your CFP account is set up, you can add CC. When you want to BP give them your phone# to look up your account under Money Services. They often get confused and think you want MG, but just say it is under Money Services. Make sure you get 2 receipts, one from WM and a small one from CFP showing the CC# and Biller name you paid.
WM App - The Money Services works in express lane for Bill Pay.
Receipt tips: If you don't get a receipt and they have to print you one, make sure the CC you paid appears on the printed receipt. If not on receipt, call CFP with the manager to verify there is no payment processing. They can cancel any transactions and pay you in cash right away. If they cancel the transaction and their cash drawer opens, that means they should pay you in cash, if it doesn't open, the money will probably return to your cards. Not sure what happens on the same day? Watch their drawer when they cancel the transaction to see if it opens. If they say the money will return to your DC, make sure to write down the managers name in case it doesn't.
Payments: Most cc can be paid 5 times by Visa/MC and 5 times by the issuing bank in rolling 30 days with a total of 10. There might be an 8K limit per rolling 30 days starting Oct 2018.
BUSINESS DAY transaction completion time is 18:59:59 EST (Holidays change post day)
Friday after 06:59PM EST, until Monday BEFORE 07:00PM EST arrives Tuesday
Tuesday BEFORE 7:00PM arrives Wednesday
Wednesday BEFORE 07:00PM arrives Thursday
Thursday BEFORE 07:00PM arrives Friday
Friday BEFORE 07:00PM arrives Monday
But when a next-day payment will post and be visible depends upon the CC issuer.
--------------------------------------------------------------
Choose to pay by Visa/MC card issuer OR by issuing bank - see the 2 sections below.
:-:VISA and MC - card issuer-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
If your particular card isn't on the list below, try "VISA" or "MASTERCARD."
"VISA" and "MASTERCARD" payee can no longer be found by search at some stores. If the employee can no longer find "VISA" or "MASTERCARD" by searching in CheckFreePAY, then you cannot pay either, end of story.
Following do not work:
Any and all Vanilla VISA, Vanilla MC, and OneVanilla VISA.
Glimcher VISA MASTERCARD
$1.50 next day.
Works:Bank of America Cash Rewards Business MC
Barclay (Arrival, US Airways) MC - Posts at 11PM EST, credit available 1AM EST
Chase Business Ink Bold MC
Citi AAdvantage (Platinum Select, Executive, Business) MC - Posts at 3AM EST (+1 day)
Citi ThankYou Preferred MC
Citi AT&T MC
CitiBusiness Platinum Select MC
Does not work:Barclay Business US Airways MC - NOT PAYABLE - tried 2x
VISA
$1.50 next day.
Works:Barclay Priceline VS
Chase (Amazon, Freedom, Sapphire Preferred, United, Slate) VS - Posts at 11PM EST
Chase Business Ink Bold VS, Chase Ink Plus
Citi (AAdvantage, Dividend, ThankYou Preferred) VS
FIA Fidelity VS
PNC CashBuilder VS
US Bank (Cash+, Club Carlson, Flexperks) VS
Navy Federal Credit Union Visa
Wells Fargo Cashback VS
Does not work:TD Bank VS - [Source]
Alliant Credit Union Cashback Visa Signature
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
:-:Issuing Bank--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Discover - Use for all Discover network cards
$1.50 next day, $1.00 three days.
American Express AMEX cards(SPG, BC, BCE, BCP, etc) cannot be paid through CheckFreePAY. Some AMEX cards issued by other banks can be paid, but they can be paid using MoneyGram for $4.99
Barclay Listed under barclay - need biller zip - $1.50 next day, $1.00 three days
Bank of America Credit Cards - Use for BoA-issued; will not work for BofA Small Business cards.
$1.50 next day, $1.00 three days. (Will require a ZIP but apparently yours will work as well as theirs, which is 19886)
Works:
BoA Alaska Airlines VisaDoes not work:
BofA Asiana Business card
Capital One
$1.50 next day.
Personal and business CCs
Elan Financial Services
$1.50 next day.
Fidelity Visa
PNC Bank - Use for PNC-issued Visa network cards
$1.50 next day, $1.00 three days.
PNC CashBuilder VS
Warning: Some users have reported being shutdown for using bill pay services.
Billpay at Walmart (2018 onwards)
Aug 8, 2018, 4:28 pm
#211
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 559
Before the mobile app , when doing thru the CSR , it used to throw an error for them if u have done 5 payments for the same account # and same network (like visa / mastercard / bank name). I havent tried within the app.
Aug 8, 2018, 4:30 pm
#212
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 559
And anyone for whom the recenet AMEX MG payment issues was there , were u able to make future payments for Amex without creating any new ids for the same account #
Aug 8, 2018, 5:30 pm
#213
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,322
Aug 9, 2018, 11:24 pm
#214
Join Date: May 2012
Location: SoCal
Posts: 30
I recently started WM Billpay and the App (which is using CheckFreePay). I do multiple $1,998.50 payments.
1. I read that Chase has shut down users for multiple BP. What about other credit card companies? I am using Capital One, FIA Fidelity Visa, and Citicard.
2. It appears that I can Billpay my credit union checking account directly ($1.50 fee). Has anyone tried that?
3. I see that many people here discuss MoneyGram. Why use MoneyGram instead of the CFP (and the App)?
p.s. I have paid 3 bills (to the same credit card), using the App, right after each other without any issues.
1. I read that Chase has shut down users for multiple BP. What about other credit card companies? I am using Capital One, FIA Fidelity Visa, and Citicard.
2. It appears that I can Billpay my credit union checking account directly ($1.50 fee). Has anyone tried that?
3. I see that many people here discuss MoneyGram. Why use MoneyGram instead of the CFP (and the App)?
p.s. I have paid 3 bills (to the same credit card), using the App, right after each other without any issues.
Last edited by viking123; Aug 9, 2018 at 11:33 pm Reason: Adding Stuff after #2
Aug 10, 2018, 11:21 am
#215
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: NRT
Programs: UA gold
Posts: 135
I recently started WM Billpay and the App (which is using CheckFreePay). I do multiple $1,998.50 payments.
1. I read that Chase has shut down users for multiple BP. What about other credit card companies? I am using Capital One, FIA Fidelity Visa, and Citicard.
2. It appears that I can Billpay my credit union checking account directly ($1.50 fee). Has anyone tried that?
3. I see that many people here discuss MoneyGram. Why use MoneyGram instead of the CFP (and the App)?
p.s. I have paid 3 bills (to the same credit card), using the App, right after each other without any issues.
1. I read that Chase has shut down users for multiple BP. What about other credit card companies? I am using Capital One, FIA Fidelity Visa, and Citicard.
2. It appears that I can Billpay my credit union checking account directly ($1.50 fee). Has anyone tried that?
3. I see that many people here discuss MoneyGram. Why use MoneyGram instead of the CFP (and the App)?
p.s. I have paid 3 bills (to the same credit card), using the App, right after each other without any issues.
Aug 10, 2018, 1:27 pm
#216
Join Date: Jul 2017
Programs: UR, Marriott, AA, WN, Chick Fil A Red
Posts: 182
Anybody try BP with Alliant recently? Typically push payments used to mail a check. Within the last couple weeks, my bank has sent them electronically, likely using CFP. I don’t use BP but thought it might be an interesting development for those that do. Previously, Alliant wasn’t in the database for WMBP from what I’ve read.
Aug 15, 2018, 6:36 pm
#218
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 152
Can not even finish the AMEX payment today.
Initiated AMEX bill pay in app without issue. But after scanning the QR code displayed on the register, it kept processing till failed. On CSR's screen, says "record can not be found.."
Initiated AMEX bill pay in app without issue. But after scanning the QR code displayed on the register, it kept processing till failed. On CSR's screen, says "record can not be found.."
Aug 15, 2018, 9:10 pm
#219
Join Date: Jan 2010
Programs: Hilton Diamond, Marriott/SPG Platinum
Posts: 496
I have also run into MG BP to Amex failure the past 2 days. 2 successive BPs to one AMEX card were cancelled...had to call MG to get the reference number to go to WM to pick up the refunded cash...I ended up buying 999.32*2 MOs each refund WM trip...didn't want to carry $2000 cash around.
I tried to MG BP a different Amex card today and got cancelled again (the third cancellation in a row) had to pick up cash again.
the easy way to find out if the BP has gone though is to use the BP receipt reference number to check the status from MG website, you can tell right after the BP if it has been successful. I checked the status right after each BP.
so no BP to Amex for me for now.
update: this morning I used a new amex number which I never MG BP before, it went through. so back in business again with different AMEX numbers.
I tried to MG BP a different Amex card today and got cancelled again (the third cancellation in a row) had to pick up cash again.
the easy way to find out if the BP has gone though is to use the BP receipt reference number to check the status from MG website, you can tell right after the BP if it has been successful. I checked the status right after each BP.
so no BP to Amex for me for now.
update: this morning I used a new amex number which I never MG BP before, it went through. so back in business again with different AMEX numbers.
Last edited by coolguy100; Aug 16, 2018 at 9:54 am
Aug 15, 2018, 10:44 pm
#220
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 559
I have also run into MG BP to Amex failure the past 2 days. 2 successive BPs to one AMEX card were cancelled...had to call MG to get the reference number to go to WM to pick up the refunded cash...I ended up buying 999.32*2 MOs each refund WM trip...didn't want to carry $2000 cash around.
I tried to MG BP a different Amex card today and got cancelled again (the third cancellation in a row) had to pick up cash again.
the easy way to find out if the BP has gone though is to use the BP receipt reference number to check the status from MG website, you can tell right after the BP if it has been successful. I checked the status right after each BP.
so no BP to Amex for me for now.
I tried to MG BP a different Amex card today and got cancelled again (the third cancellation in a row) had to pick up cash again.
the easy way to find out if the BP has gone though is to use the BP receipt reference number to check the status from MG website, you can tell right after the BP if it has been successful. I checked the status right after each BP.
so no BP to Amex for me for now.
This is bad news . Ill try to create a new account for my SO and make a AMEX MG Payment for the same account # and will post an update.
It looks like ID/Account Ban. Hopefully not account level ban
Aug 16, 2018, 7:35 am
#221
Join Date: Jan 2010
Programs: Hilton Diamond, Marriott/SPG Platinum
Posts: 496
right after BP, go to moneygram.com to track, if looking like this, it has gone though, otherwise it was cancelled...need to call to get new MG reference # to go to WM for cash.
Aug 16, 2018, 7:57 am
#222
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 559
Aug 16, 2018, 5:27 pm
#223
Join Date: May 2008
Location: PHL (kinda, no airport is really close)
Programs: AA Exp, but not sure for how long. Enterprise Platinum woo-hoo!
Posts: 4,550
I recently started WM Billpay and the App (which is using CheckFreePay). I do multiple $1,998.50 payments.
1. I read that Chase has shut down users for multiple BP. What about other credit card companies? I am using Capital One, FIA Fidelity Visa, and Citicard.
2. It appears that I can Billpay my credit union checking account directly ($1.50 fee). Has anyone tried that?
3. I see that many people here discuss MoneyGram. Why use MoneyGram instead of the CFP (and the App)?
p.s. I have paid 3 bills (to the same credit card), using the App, right after each other without any issues.
1. I read that Chase has shut down users for multiple BP. What about other credit card companies? I am using Capital One, FIA Fidelity Visa, and Citicard.
2. It appears that I can Billpay my credit union checking account directly ($1.50 fee). Has anyone tried that?
3. I see that many people here discuss MoneyGram. Why use MoneyGram instead of the CFP (and the App)?
p.s. I have paid 3 bills (to the same credit card), using the App, right after each other without any issues.
Aug 17, 2018, 4:31 pm
#225
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 34
I had my first AMEX payment rejected today. It was only around my 25th payment this year and to the card, and my 7th payment in the last 30 days. I can confirm that when I tracked it I did not see the "payment complete" image but instead saw details about the transaction that did not give me any sense of whether the transaction went through.