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Old Jan 9, 2018, 7:46 pm
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This is a new thread for 2018. The previous discussion can be found here.

As of Nov 11, 2020, Meta gebits are getting declined when used for MO/BP purchases at MC/SD. New limit appears to be $99 per swipe. READ the posts below and add a data point with details. USB and GD gift cards do not seem to be affected.

DETAILS:
As of Dec 2019, WM BP in-store is reportedly affected by the $8000 total limit across all cards.
As of Nov 1, 2018, WM Billpay made via the WM app is limited to a total of $8000 total per person to all accounts per rolling 30 days.

Sep 13 2021 : If WM App is updated with no money services , then use the following for Android phone to get the working version.


https://www.apkmirror.com/?post_type...ge=1&s=walmart
My working version is 21.12 (21120123)
Fyr : https://www.androidpolice.com/2021/0...n-app-android/

This workaround no longer works.

Bill Pay cannot be done at a regular register. BP must be done at Customer Service/Returns or at the Money Center in stores that have it.
WM offers two BP services: CheckFreePAY and MoneyGram. The cashier can initiate CheckFreePAY by selecting Money Services followed by Bill Pay on the register for a fee of $1-1.88. Moneygram is $4.99.
ONLY 4 successful debit card swipes can pay for a transaction. ONLY 5 payments per 16 digit account number per rolling 30 days.
CheckFreePay (800) 676-6148. - Look up payments using CC number and time of transaction
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BP by phone number lookup- Once your CFP account is set up, you can add CC. When you want to BP give them your phone# to look up your account under Money Services. They often get confused and think you want MG, but just say it is under Money Services. Make sure you get 2 receipts, one from WM and a small one from CFP showing the CC# and Biller name you paid.

WM App - The Money Services works in express lane for Bill Pay.

Receipt tips: If you don't get a receipt and they have to print you one, make sure the CC you paid appears on the printed receipt. If not on receipt, call CFP with the manager to verify there is no payment processing. They can cancel any transactions and pay you in cash right away. If they cancel the transaction and their cash drawer opens, that means they should pay you in cash, if it doesn't open, the money will probably return to your cards. Not sure what happens on the same day? Watch their drawer when they cancel the transaction to see if it opens. If they say the money will return to your DC, make sure to write down the managers name in case it doesn't.

Payments:
Most cc can be paid 5 times by Visa/MC and 5 times by the issuing bank in rolling 30 days with a total of 10. There might be an 8K limit per rolling 30 days starting Oct 2018.

BUSINESS DAY transaction completion time is 18:59:59 EST (Holidays change post day)

Friday after 06:59PM EST, until Monday BEFORE 07:00PM EST arrives Tuesday
Tuesday BEFORE 7:00PM arrives Wednesday
Wednesday BEFORE 07:00PM arrives Thursday
Thursday BEFORE 07:00PM arrives Friday
Friday BEFORE 07:00PM arrives Monday
But when a next-day payment will post and be visible depends upon the CC issuer.

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Choose to pay by Visa/MC card issuer OR by issuing bank - see the 2 sections below.

:-:VISA and MC - card issuer-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
If your particular card isn't on the list below, try "VISA" or "MASTERCARD."

"VISA" and "MASTERCARD" payee can no longer be found by search at some stores. If the employee can no longer find "VISA" or "MASTERCARD" by searching in CheckFreePAY, then you cannot pay either, end of story.

Following do not work:

Any and all Vanilla VISA, Vanilla MC, and OneVanilla VISA.
Glimcher VISA MASTERCARD
$1.50 next day.

Works:Bank of America Cash Rewards Business MC
Barclay (Arrival, US Airways) MC - Posts at 11PM EST, credit available 1AM EST
Chase Business Ink Bold MC
Citi AAdvantage (Platinum Select, Executive, Business) MC - Posts at 3AM EST (+1 day)
Citi ThankYou Preferred MC
Citi AT&T MC
CitiBusiness Platinum Select MC

Does not work:Barclay Business US Airways MC - NOT PAYABLE - tried 2x
VISA
$1.50 next day.

Works:Barclay Priceline VS
Chase (Amazon, Freedom, Sapphire Preferred, United, Slate) VS - Posts at 11PM EST
Chase Business Ink Bold VS, Chase Ink Plus
Citi (AAdvantage, Dividend, ThankYou Preferred) VS
FIA Fidelity VS
PNC CashBuilder VS
US Bank (Cash+, Club Carlson, Flexperks) VS
Navy Federal Credit Union Visa
Wells Fargo Cashback VS
Does not work:TD Bank VS - [Source]
Alliant Credit Union Cashback Visa Signature
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:-:Issuing Bank--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Discover - Use for all Discover network cards
$1.50 next day, $1.00 three days.

American Express AMEX cards(SPG, BC, BCE, BCP, etc) cannot be paid through CheckFreePAY. Some AMEX cards issued by other banks can be paid, but they can be paid using MoneyGram for $4.99

Barclay Listed under barclay - need biller zip - $1.50 next day, $1.00 three days

Bank of America Credit Cards - Use for BoA-issued; will not work for BofA Small Business cards.
$1.50 next day, $1.00 three days. (Will require a ZIP but apparently yours will work as well as theirs, which is 19886)
Works:

BoA Alaska Airlines VisaDoes not work:

BofA Asiana Business card
Capital One
$1.50 next day.

Personal and business CCs
Elan Financial Services
$1.50 next day.

Fidelity Visa
PNC Bank - Use for PNC-issued Visa network cards
$1.50 next day, $1.00 three days.

PNC CashBuilder VS
Warning: Some users have reported being shutdown for using bill pay services.




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Old Sep 13, 2018, 1:26 pm
  #286  
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Am I correct that visa payments still not working? cash refund is good, of course, but it involves manager and triple time in WMT.
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Old Sep 13, 2018, 1:48 pm
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Last time I did B/P was Sunday via the app to pay MC CC. It went all the way until the end when drawer opened....ACK! that meant payment failed and I was going to receive a $ refund. I used a CU DC that gave rewards and payment was a little less than $2.5K plus $1.50 fee. I was hesitant to accept cash refund so I asked cashier if we can re-do transaction with the cash, to which she agreed. It went through, I got my receipt although I was wondering why it charged me only $1.50 when it should've been $1.88 since this was not Express Pay?

I won't be happy with cash refunds because I know it'll only take one nosey associate to think that I'm up to no good if my B/Ps amounting to $2K or more result in cash refunds so I'd rather request to re-run transaction using the cash instead of accepting it. One incident of getting cash refund in several benjamins may be ignored but if it happens on several transactions, I'd be wary the cashier will report it to cash manager, which is the last thing I want to happen.
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Old Sep 13, 2018, 3:17 pm
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Datapoint -- Tried to do a VISA bp, has worked flawlessly heretofore. Today, got through 4 swipes and then refund notice. My CSR called supe, and they quickly gave me the cash, minus the bp fee (something must be telling them the exact amount to refund, and I did not try & get the fee back).

I was OK with the cash but won't be doing any bp again until this is fixed. With my luck, I will get an uninformed CSR/supe that will make my life hell with no refund, etc. I am too chicken for that ...
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Old Sep 13, 2018, 3:45 pm
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I'm curios - may be it is intentional? to get rid off customers paying with cards? As I see from datapoint (#287), cash payment had worked.
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Old Sep 13, 2018, 4:48 pm
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I haven't been following this, are the cash-outs when utilizing Visa for BP through MG or CFP ?
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Old Sep 13, 2018, 5:27 pm
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Someone mentioned up thread (even before MamiBear) that its failing because of the lower fee ($1.50), when it should be $1.88
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Old Sep 13, 2018, 6:27 pm
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Originally Posted by lumangoy
Someone mentioned up thread (even before MamiBear) that its failing because of the lower fee ($1.50), when it should be $1.88
So, in app the fee is 1.50 (i checked), but using "old" method with cashier - still $1.88 and works?
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Old Sep 13, 2018, 7:27 pm
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Originally Posted by jk2
So, in app the fee is 1.50 (i checked), but using "old" method with cashier - still $1.88 and works?
I did 2 VISA payments via app last week, paid a $1.50 fee and it went though without any problems.
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Old Sep 14, 2018, 6:44 am
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Originally Posted by jk2
So, in app the fee is 1.50 (i checked), but using "old" method with cashier - still $1.88 and works?
Good to know. Thanks
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Old Sep 14, 2018, 8:50 am
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Originally Posted by Travelz
Good to know. Thanks
No, it was a question. I didn't try yet. May be, I'll try today, when I have more time.
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Old Sep 14, 2018, 9:07 am
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Originally Posted by jk2
No, it was a question. I didn't try yet. May be, I'll try today, when I have more time.
I will try it tonight. I hope it works the old way and I have to remember to bring the CC with me so they can enter the number in.
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Old Sep 14, 2018, 10:42 am
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So I inadvertently tested this with cash a few days ago: I did a staged VISA payment transaction in the app. After 4 swipes it failed as people have been describing, so I received a cash payout. The CSR offered to run it through manually (not a staged transaction in the app) and use the pile of cash sitting there on the counter for the payment. I can confirm that the payment went through successfully and has been applied to my VISA card account. The fee was $1.50.
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Old Sep 14, 2018, 12:43 pm
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Originally Posted by joelmeu
So I inadvertently tested this with cash a few days ago: I did a staged VISA payment transaction in the app. After 4 swipes it failed as people have been describing, so I received a cash payout. The CSR offered to run it through manually (not a staged transaction in the app) and use the pile of cash sitting there on the counter for the payment. I can confirm that the payment went through successfully and has been applied to my VISA card account. The fee was $1.50.
what do you mean by "manually"? Like old method - she typed everything on her "money services" terminal?
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Old Sep 14, 2018, 1:42 pm
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I received a huge order of GCs today so I checked again if "glitch" has been fixed. This time I did not use Express Pay to avoid getting a refund again and went straight to cashier look-up using my phone number. I've always given cashier a piece of paper with everything they need to input to pay an account. Twas my lucky day, my friendly cashier was there and no queue at CS. I told her I was paying four accounts and I'd go back to end of the line when anyone comes behind; she was glad about that. I told her all were MC accounts that were already in the system, she said fee for next day was $1.50(!). I said okay and proceeded to swipe three $500s and the last was a rewards non-chip CUDC that paid for the remaining balance including the fee. With success of first, she said let's proceed to #2 while there's no line forming. Payments were made to different acct numbers, no issues, no glitches, all charged $1.50, payments ranging from $22xx to $2499.xx. Seems to me the fee for next day has been reduced to $1.50 instead of $1.88. I am well aware of the "dangers" of WMBP but I'm ready for consequences.
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Old Sep 14, 2018, 2:53 pm
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If you look at your receipt, I think you'll see that although it might say next day on the screen when the CSR selects it, they're actually 2 business days now.
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