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Old Jan 1, 2018, 10:53 am
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This is the thread for 2018. The previous discussion can be found here.

The 2019 thread can be found here

New to MO: Read this entire Wiki (Click to open) and all posts for some tips before asking common questions. It is best to know what you are doing before you try.
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Tested Gebit cards:
1. DO NOT WORK - Any Vanilla product affiliated with InComm or ITC Financial Services will not work for swipes over $49.99.
2. Visas issued by MetaBank work great.
3. MC issued by US bank work good, but you need to change payment type to debit before they enter the amount in the register. See below for details.
5. Gdot/sun work but take about an hour to activate.

NEW Limits as of 11/18 - 8K with ID every 24 hours. ID required for MO over 1K.
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Some tips for starting out:

All WM registers allow 4 debit swipes per transaction, but YMMV per store and cashier. Refer to cards as Debit cards.

Start slow and buy one MO with one Gebit to see how it works. Refer to cards as Debit, only this community calls them Gebits. Your store or cashier may have rules that other stores do not have, only allowing one swipe per trans or up to 4 swipes per trans. Read all the tips below and all the posts below before trying more advanced transactions. NO variety or design of VISA or MC Gebit's will ever auto-drain at Walmart so always tell them the amount you want to pay per card. Fee: 1K MO or less is usually 88 cents each, but ask or check the wall. Subtract the fee from the total or pay in cash. If a store says "no", thank them and try again another day with a different clerk.


Helpful details and tips for advanced transactions:

1. Cost:
1K MO fee is usually 88 cents each(Some states limit MO total to 750 or 950 and may have a different fee). Subtract fee from your total or pay in cash. Can buy two 1K MO in one transaction with 4 swipes for 88 cents x 2 in most states. NO variety or design of VISA or MC Gebit's will ever auto-drain at Walmart so always tell them the amount you want to pay per card.

2. Split payment transcations: You cannot successfully swipe more than 4 cards in a single transaction. If the cashier screws up and enters $50.00 instead of $500.00 (thus making it impossible for 4 swipes to complete the transaction), the transaction will need to be canceled. The funds should return to your cards right away but may take 24 hours, so note the time and person helping you. When a transaction is canceled during the trans, the money returns to the cards. If canceled after, the cash reg drawer opens and they pay you back in cash.

3. Split payment: The amount of each swipe needs to be entered by the cashier. Ask to "split the payment by $$$". The Gebit must have current balance of that amount or more otherwise slip with Error 51 will print out. Warning: (YMMV) It appears (my experience on 3 occasions during prepaid card load and buying MO in 2 different WMs) that after the debit card was charged no cash could be credited back to the card. Cashier should issue cash back. Keep the slip and contact manager if in doubt. Remember date, time and register if no slip.

4. Bad Printer: IF, by chance, you've swiped your GCs successfully, a receipt prints but the MO doesn't, make sure to ask to see the receipt and check near the bottom IF it says CHANGE/REFUND with a negative sign before the amount of GCs you swiped, that means the cashier must give you cash refund. Cashier may have to call for the cash dept manager to verify the refund. Some stores may outright give your cash refund immediately while there are others that will ask you to come back. Think twice before you buy MOs while on vacation or when you're in unknown to you territories for issues like this.

5. Kiosk: Very few Kate's can sell money orders anymore.>>>>Sometime 2016, a lot of WM supercenters have done away with Kate (kiosks that allows loading of prepaids/sell $500 MOs). As of today, MOST, if not ALL WMs, have replaced this with the regular slim ATM to check balance/withdraw money.

6. MCGC liquidation- The cashier should
not enter the amount first. Technically they just can't hit enter after entering the amount. Let the CSR know you need to swipe first and switch the payment type to debit, then swipe and hit "Cancel" or "Change Payment" to select "Debit" on the screen, enter the pin and have them enter the amount.

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http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/attac...0&d=1461170080
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Old Jun 6, 2018, 9:15 am
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Originally Posted by carlitos
And keep them to yourself. I have seen whales around the places I mentioned bringing those backpacks and trying to offload 100 or more all flavored VGCs.
To me, this is just a great hobby that helps with signing bonuses and some fun play with Amex OBC @ Krogy-Food4much-Rafaels etc, and Amex BBP meets SimonSays..
I am glad it has been going for SO Loong. Still remember the days I did Bluebird instead of MOs.
This is me. OBCx2 player, 112k a year on that. The rest is just MSR. Luckily where I am even tho my state is known as MS unfriendly, big state, middle of nowhere I live, so far so good 5 years going.
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Old Jun 6, 2018, 10:32 am
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Old Jun 6, 2018, 12:00 pm
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Originally Posted by MileageGoblin
RIP my Dallas store for 4 years. Jackwagons bringing in backpacks of GCs to buy and liquidate got it shut down.
i suspect we use the same store in dallas. RIP friendly WM.. Apparently moneygram met with them and told them they can’t accept gift cards for MOs.
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Old Jun 6, 2018, 12:09 pm
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based on lots of reports here and replies to discussions on blog sites, it is safe to conclude that MG calls the shots at WM for financial services and stores that are put on probation are never the same once they're put on the list.
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Old Jun 6, 2018, 12:33 pm
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Originally Posted by iamthehpt


i suspect we use the same store in dallas. RIP friendly WM.. Apparently moneygram met with them and told them they can’t accept gift cards for MOs.
even for 1 swipe? I haven't gone back to mine since it's a bit out of the way.
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Old Jun 6, 2018, 1:05 pm
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Are MC GCs working as before for MO? Anyone tried yesterday or today?

Never mind. Activation issue.

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Old Jun 6, 2018, 1:14 pm
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Originally Posted by Steve in Olympia
Don't bother posting if you aren't willing to actually convey any information that anyone can actually use. (Actually identifying a store that allows only one swipe is hardly "spoon feeding," or at all likely to "ruin it with a couple of visits." Let's get real here.)
How do you know if they are not flat out lies.....agreed. If some are protective, why they bother posting about it....
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Old Jun 6, 2018, 1:32 pm
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Originally Posted by prasha11
How do you know if they are not flat out lies.....agreed. If some are protective, why they bother posting about it....
it's to let every one know that the location got audited and if your location is allowing multiple swipes and you're not the only one, your location is most likely next.
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Old Jun 6, 2018, 5:45 pm
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Originally Posted by lumangoy
even for 1 swipe? I haven't gone back to mine since it's a bit out of the way.
correct, not even for 1 swipe. Moneygram instructed them not to accept VGCs for MOs period. They are now trained to check — at least for those of us who were known to use multiple swipes in the past. I have a good relationship with the money center personnel and believe they were being truthful.
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Old Jun 6, 2018, 8:17 pm
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Originally Posted by iamthehpt


correct, not even for 1 swipe. Moneygram instructed them not to accept VGCs for MOs period. They are now trained to check — at least for those of us who were known to use multiple swipes in the past. I have a good relationship with the money center personnel and believe they were being truthful.
Cant you just show them a real DC and use a GC instead? One swipe is easy to hide...
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Old Jun 7, 2018, 12:02 am
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Originally Posted by CDO
Cant you just show them a real DC and use a GC instead? One swipe is easy to hide...
all the postings here are so generic for last 5+ years....some get lucky and some are lies, but it keeps on churning....I have doubts you can buy MO at WALMART with GCs any more except random or remote locations (maybe?). This thread has lost its value, must have closed long time back.....
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Old Jun 7, 2018, 5:56 am
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Originally Posted by prasha11
all the postings here are so generic for last 5+ years....some get lucky and some are lies, but it keeps on churning....I have doubts you can buy MO at WALMART with GCs any more except random or remote locations (maybe?). This thread has lost its value, must have closed long time back.....
I'm not even sure what you're on about. Many people in many places are still able to buy MO with VGC at Walmart to this day. Just because you might be in one of the MS hell area's, doesn't mean there aren't many places left that allow it.
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Old Jun 7, 2018, 6:54 am
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I'm not even sure what you're on about. Many people in many places are still able to buy MO with VGC at Walmart to this day. Just because you might be in one of the MS hell area's, doesn't mean there aren't many places left that allow it.
Don't feed the known troll
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Old Jun 7, 2018, 7:06 am
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Originally Posted by Dardack
I'm not even sure what you're on about. Many people in many places are still able to buy MO with VGC at Walmart to this day. Just because you might be in one of the MS hell area's, doesn't mean there aren't many places left that allow it.
Went yesterday with no issues. Dumping GE $200 cards from latest Amex / Lowe's deal i.e. buy $1000 get $100 back offer. Had an issue with the MO printer but that was my worst problem! BAU for me.
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Old Jun 7, 2018, 9:25 am
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Originally Posted by CDO
Cant you just show them a real DC and use a GC instead? One swipe is easy to hide...
yes, you can BUT it's a bad idea.

there was one from LAX who posted in this week's reddit MS thread who tried buying MO $999.12 with 2 swipes. Associate asked to see card and he/she showed a real bank DC but swiped VGC. Cashier noticed and called him/her out....BUSTED! MSer went on to question since when VGCs were disallowed to buy MO? well, if that's what they thought, why not just show what you're going to swipe and see what cashier will say? as it is, NO GO for that MSer from thereon, cashiers at that WM will likely be more vigilant in looking at cards being swiped.

btw, it's been mentioned that cashiers can prove the switch with receipt by comparing last 4 of card that were swiped.
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