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Old Feb 27, 2017, 10:26 pm
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Last edit by: ChrisFlyer66
THIS IS A WIKI TO AN OLD THREAD THAT IS NO LONGER BEING MAINTAINED!

This is a new thread for 2017. The previous discussion can be found here.
The new thread for 2018 is here.

DETAILS:
Bill Pay cannot be done at a regular register. BP must be done at Customer Service/Returns or at the Money Center in stores that have it.
WM offers two BP services: CheckFreePAY and MoneyGram. The cashier can initiate CheckFreePAY by selecting Money Services followed by Bill Pay on the register for a fee of $1-1.88. Moneygram is $4.99.
ONLY 4 successful debit card swipes can pay for a transaction. ONLY 5 payments per 16 digit account number per rolling 30 days.
CheckFreePay (800) 676-6148. - Look up payments using CC number and time of transaction

Standard BP- Once your CFP account is set up, you can add CC. When you want to BP give them your phone# to look up your account under Money Services. They often get confused and think you want MG, but just say it is under Money Services. Make sure you get 2 receipts, one from WM and a small one from CFP showing the CC# and Biller name you paid.

WM App - The Money Services works in express lane for BP, but has issues making 2 or more payments in a row. Make one BP, then come back or do another trans, then another BP to avoid issues. Make sure you get a BP receipt in the app and it shows the BP info and the CC you paid before leaving the store.

Some tips: If you don't get a receipt and they have to print you one, make sure the CC you paid appears on the printed receipt. If not on receipt, call CFP with the manager to verify there is no payment processing. They can cancel any transactions and pay you in cash right away. If they cancel the transaction and their cash drawer opens, that means they should pay you in cash, if it doesn't open, the money will probably return to your cards. Not sure what happens on the same day? Watch their drawer when they cancel the transaction to see if it opens. If they say the money will return to your DC, make sure to write down the managers name in case it doesn't.

BUSINESS DAY transaction completion time is 18:59:59 EST (Holidays change post day)
Friday after 06:59PM EST, until Monday BEFORE 07:00PM EST arrives Tuesday
Tuesday BEFORE 7:00PM arrives Wednesday
Wednesday BEFORE 07:00PM arrives Thursday
Thursday BEFORE 07:00PM arrives Friday
Friday BEFORE 07:00PM arrives Monday
But when a next-day payment will post and be visible depends upon the CC issuer.

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:-:VISA and MC
If your particular card isn't on the list below, try "VISA" or "MASTERCARD."

"VISA" and "MASTERCARD" payee can no longer be found by search at some stores. If the employee can no longer find "VISA" or "MASTERCARD" by searching in CheckFreePAY, then you cannot pay either, end of story.

Following do not work:
Any and all Vanilla VISA, Vanilla MC, and OneVanilla VISA.
Glimcher VISA
MASTERCARD
$1.88 next day.
Works:
Bank of America Cash Rewards Business MC
Barclay (Arrival, US Airways) MC - Posts at 11PM EST, credit available 1AM EST
Chase Business Ink Bold MC
Citi AAdvantage (Platinum Select, Executive, Business) MC - Posts at 3AM EST (+1 day)
Citi ThankYou Preferred MC
CitiBusiness Platinum Select MC
Does not work:
Barclay Business US Airways MC - NOT PAYABLE - tried 2x
VISA
$1.88 next day.
Works:
Barclay Priceline VS
Chase (Amazon, Freedom, Sapphire Preferred, United, Slate) VS - Posts at 10PM EST
Chase Business Ink Bold VS
Citi (AAdvantage, Dividend, ThankYou Preferred) VS
FIA Fidelity VS
PNC CashBuilder VS
US Bank (Cash+, Club Carlson, Flexperks) VS
Wells Fargo Cashback VS
Does not work:
TD Bank VS - [Source]
Alliant Credit Union Cashback Visa Signature
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:-:Issuing Bank

Discover - Use for all Discover network cards
$1.50 next day, $1.00 three days.

American Express AMEX cards(SPG, BC, BCE, BCP, etc) cannot be paid through CheckFreePAY. Some AMEX cards issued by other banks can be paid.

AMEX cards(SPG, BC, BCE, BCP, etc) can be paid using MoneyGram for $4.99

Barclay Listed under barclay - need biller zip - $1.50 next day, $1.00 three days

Bank of America Credit Cards - Use for BoA-issued and FIA-issued cards; will not work for BofA Small Business cards.
$1.50 next day, $1.00 three days. (Will require a ZIP but apparently yours will work as well as theirs, which is 19886)[INDENT]Works:
FIA Fidelity VS & MC
BoA Alaska Airlines Visa
Does not work:
FIA Fidelity AX - No longer working for FIA Amex
BofA Asiana Business card
Capital One
$1.50 next day.
Personal and business CCs
Citibank American Express - Use for Citi-issued AMEX cards
$1.50 next day, $1.00 three days.
Citi AAdvantage AMEX
PNC Bank - Use for PNC-issued Visa network cards
$1.50 next day, $1.00 three days.
PNC CashBuilder VS
Warning: Some users have reported being shutdown for using bill pay services.


For money order questions, check the following threads and their wiki posts:
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Old Nov 29, 2017, 7:15 pm
  #331  
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
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Originally Posted by Sandybestdog
I'd really like to thank all of you who helped get this location shut down (you know which one). Yea you weren't satisfied with doing one bill pay and leaving. No you all had to sit there for 45 minutes and do 12 bill pays at a time. Well now it's all shut down. I hope you're proud of yourselves.

There is fire alarm at the top, did that not work?
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Old Nov 30, 2017, 11:16 am
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Has anyone tried using the app to do the express payment recently? I posted on here about my first use that went really well, but now the app is asking me input a "secondary ID" where my only choice is my SSN in order to continue setting up the payment. Has anyone else encountered this? Is it a recent change? Or is it because of the amount I'm doing ($1,000+ now compared to $499 the first time).

Thanks!
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Old Nov 30, 2017, 11:33 am
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Originally Posted by barcanomics
Has anyone tried using the app to do the express payment recently? I posted on here about my first use that went really well, but now the app is asking me input a "secondary ID" where my only choice is my SSN in order to continue setting up the payment. Has anyone else encountered this? Is it a recent change? Or is it because of the amount I'm doing ($1,000+ now compared to $499 the first time).

Thanks!
I did an express payment yesterday with no issues.
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Old Nov 30, 2017, 11:35 am
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First BP I did (yesterday) via the app was for 1998.12, worked just fine for me, only asked for DL info. Nothing about secondary ID.
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Old Nov 30, 2017, 12:15 pm
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To answer my own question and pose another: when I changed the amount to < $1,000, the screen requiring a secondary ID did not appear. Could it vary WM to WM?
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Old Nov 30, 2017, 5:40 pm
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Woo Hoo !

My app fired-up today, and I've got it all setup to start making payments at the branch I'm heading to tomorrow. The only part I'm not clear on, is how you acquire the QR image code the cashier is supposed to scan ?
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Old Nov 30, 2017, 8:43 pm
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Your app will use your phones camera to capture the QR code displayed on the pin pad. You may need to vary the incline of the pin pad or shift your camera angle to sidestep the glare from the ceiling lights.
Originally Posted by Whittaker
Woo Hoo !

My app fired-up today, and I've got it all setup to start making payments at the branch I'm heading to tomorrow. The only part I'm not clear on, is how you acquire the QR image code the cashier is supposed to scan ?
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Old Nov 30, 2017, 9:09 pm
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Originally Posted by Sandybestdog
...I hope you're proud of yourselves.

Don't worry - they actually are proud of it.
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Old Nov 30, 2017, 10:08 pm
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Originally Posted by Sandybestdog
I'd really like to thank all of you who helped get this location shut down (you know which one). Yea you weren't satisfied with doing one bill pay and leaving. No you all had to sit there for 45 minutes and do 12 bill pays at a time. Well now it's all shut down. I hope you're proud of yourselves.

there is a $250 bounty on your head now. i assume it means people are going to try to steal your phone so you can't take pictures with it, but I really think it just goes to show what a cheap prick the guy offering the money for information is.
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Old Dec 1, 2017, 12:32 am
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Originally Posted by RamboAroundTheWorld
there is a $250 bounty on your head now
What does that mean...can you elaborate a bit?
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Old Dec 1, 2017, 8:10 am
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Originally Posted by RamboAroundTheWorld
there is a $250 bounty on your head now. i assume it means people are going to try to steal your phone so you can't take pictures with it, but I really think it just goes to show what a cheap prick the guy offering the money for information is.
Hopefully this does not involve any physical threats. Keep in mind that Virginia is a concealed carry state.
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Old Dec 1, 2017, 8:31 am
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Getting Shut Down

Originally Posted by wanalaugh74
LOL i know those guys! man tysons was one of the few left.. u should also thank the guy that tied up the lines and managers at the burke wm.. dunno his name but see him all the time with his bag! lol
Well since people are mentioning Burke, VA on here... I have inside scoop that site will be shut down very soon. The CSR there has already told me that management is concerned about the time consumption/volume and a process is in place. Ashame, nice generous folks who work there.... abused by greediness. I haven't seen bag man.. but I've been told about him. Last time I was there... the whole CSR desk was tied up with bill payers.
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Old Dec 1, 2017, 10:48 am
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What CC are you guys BPing?

Arent you concerned about shutdown?

Isnt the common factor among shutdowns BP?
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Old Dec 1, 2017, 10:58 am
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Originally Posted by venturion
Your app will use your phones camera to capture the QR code displayed on the pin pad.
That's the part that didn't make any sense. If you have to go all the way to the store, into the Money Center, and up to the pin pad, why don't they just have you punch in your pin and go from there ?
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Old Dec 1, 2017, 11:02 am
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system allows only 2 payments to same cc acct per day.
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