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Old Feb 27, 2017, 10:26 pm
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THIS IS A WIKI TO AN OLD THREAD THAT IS NO LONGER BEING MAINTAINED!

This is a new thread for 2017. The previous discussion can be found here.
The new thread for 2018 is here.

DETAILS:
Bill Pay cannot be done at a regular register. BP must be done at Customer Service/Returns or at the Money Center in stores that have it.
WM offers two BP services: CheckFreePAY and MoneyGram. The cashier can initiate CheckFreePAY by selecting Money Services followed by Bill Pay on the register for a fee of $1-1.88. Moneygram is $4.99.
ONLY 4 successful debit card swipes can pay for a transaction. ONLY 5 payments per 16 digit account number per rolling 30 days.
CheckFreePay (800) 676-6148. - Look up payments using CC number and time of transaction

Standard BP- Once your CFP account is set up, you can add CC. When you want to BP give them your phone# to look up your account under Money Services. They often get confused and think you want MG, but just say it is under Money Services. Make sure you get 2 receipts, one from WM and a small one from CFP showing the CC# and Biller name you paid.

WM App - The Money Services works in express lane for BP, but has issues making 2 or more payments in a row. Make one BP, then come back or do another trans, then another BP to avoid issues. Make sure you get a BP receipt in the app and it shows the BP info and the CC you paid before leaving the store.

Some tips: If you don't get a receipt and they have to print you one, make sure the CC you paid appears on the printed receipt. If not on receipt, call CFP with the manager to verify there is no payment processing. They can cancel any transactions and pay you in cash right away. If they cancel the transaction and their cash drawer opens, that means they should pay you in cash, if it doesn't open, the money will probably return to your cards. Not sure what happens on the same day? Watch their drawer when they cancel the transaction to see if it opens. If they say the money will return to your DC, make sure to write down the managers name in case it doesn't.

BUSINESS DAY transaction completion time is 18:59:59 EST (Holidays change post day)
Friday after 06:59PM EST, until Monday BEFORE 07:00PM EST arrives Tuesday
Tuesday BEFORE 7:00PM arrives Wednesday
Wednesday BEFORE 07:00PM arrives Thursday
Thursday BEFORE 07:00PM arrives Friday
Friday BEFORE 07:00PM arrives Monday
But when a next-day payment will post and be visible depends upon the CC issuer.

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:-:VISA and MC
If your particular card isn't on the list below, try "VISA" or "MASTERCARD."

"VISA" and "MASTERCARD" payee can no longer be found by search at some stores. If the employee can no longer find "VISA" or "MASTERCARD" by searching in CheckFreePAY, then you cannot pay either, end of story.

Following do not work:
Any and all Vanilla VISA, Vanilla MC, and OneVanilla VISA.
Glimcher VISA
MASTERCARD
$1.88 next day.
Works:
Bank of America Cash Rewards Business MC
Barclay (Arrival, US Airways) MC - Posts at 11PM EST, credit available 1AM EST
Chase Business Ink Bold MC
Citi AAdvantage (Platinum Select, Executive, Business) MC - Posts at 3AM EST (+1 day)
Citi ThankYou Preferred MC
CitiBusiness Platinum Select MC
Does not work:
Barclay Business US Airways MC - NOT PAYABLE - tried 2x
VISA
$1.88 next day.
Works:
Barclay Priceline VS
Chase (Amazon, Freedom, Sapphire Preferred, United, Slate) VS - Posts at 10PM EST
Chase Business Ink Bold VS
Citi (AAdvantage, Dividend, ThankYou Preferred) VS
FIA Fidelity VS
PNC CashBuilder VS
US Bank (Cash+, Club Carlson, Flexperks) VS
Wells Fargo Cashback VS
Does not work:
TD Bank VS - [Source]
Alliant Credit Union Cashback Visa Signature
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:-:Issuing Bank

Discover - Use for all Discover network cards
$1.50 next day, $1.00 three days.

American Express AMEX cards(SPG, BC, BCE, BCP, etc) cannot be paid through CheckFreePAY. Some AMEX cards issued by other banks can be paid.

AMEX cards(SPG, BC, BCE, BCP, etc) can be paid using MoneyGram for $4.99

Barclay Listed under barclay - need biller zip - $1.50 next day, $1.00 three days

Bank of America Credit Cards - Use for BoA-issued and FIA-issued cards; will not work for BofA Small Business cards.
$1.50 next day, $1.00 three days. (Will require a ZIP but apparently yours will work as well as theirs, which is 19886)[INDENT]Works:
FIA Fidelity VS & MC
BoA Alaska Airlines Visa
Does not work:
FIA Fidelity AX - No longer working for FIA Amex
BofA Asiana Business card
Capital One
$1.50 next day.
Personal and business CCs
Citibank American Express - Use for Citi-issued AMEX cards
$1.50 next day, $1.00 three days.
Citi AAdvantage AMEX
PNC Bank - Use for PNC-issued Visa network cards
$1.50 next day, $1.00 three days.
PNC CashBuilder VS
Warning: Some users have reported being shutdown for using bill pay services.


For money order questions, check the following threads and their wiki posts:
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Old Dec 21, 2017, 8:05 pm
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Originally Posted by elegua
Does anyone here has deal with a very very very very very very very very low IQ WM cash offices / managers?, i spent today 4 hours explaining those guys that they need to follow the transaction (i have the WM receipt) and they keep telling me that i need to call CFP and ask for refund even though 3 different CFP CSRs have been telling them that they don't have the payment for that CC account, is there any way i can deal with this?, Does anyone here has opened a CFPB dispute again them?
Have them print all 3 receipts from their log and verify the time on each receipt with CFP while the manager listens. The manager should cancel the transaction and pay you in cash. The Service Center has a procedure in their book of instructions behind the counter that explains to them what to do. Have them look in the book and go in the morning.
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Old Dec 21, 2017, 10:39 pm
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Will metabank mastercards work same as visa for walmart bill pay ?
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Old Dec 22, 2017, 5:18 am
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So many BP problems. I have not used BP in last 8 months. I did use some BP 8 months ago and after I check it it was posted to my account, I thought this is fool proof method and did not check and cross check every BP judiciously. Hope all was well. When you hear of such thing, it sows a seed of doubt in your mind. Can someone confirm the BP problems are recent phenomenon and it may have something to do with more digitization like you are able to pay it with app etc.
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Old Dec 22, 2017, 5:56 am
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I added this to the Wiki to help others avoid the problem with the app. Feel free to edit.

New MC App(11/17) - New app works in express lane for BP, but has issues making 2 or more payments in a row. Make one BP, then a MO, then another BP to avoid issues. Make sure your BP receipt shows the BP info and the CC you paid before leaving the store. They can cancel any transactions and pay you in cash right away.
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Old Dec 22, 2017, 2:03 pm
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Originally Posted by Travelz
I added this to the Wiki to help others avoid the problem with the app. Feel free to edit.

New MC App(11/17) - New app works in express lane for BP, but has issues making 2 or more payments in a row. Make one BP, then a MO, then another BP to avoid issues. Make sure your BP receipt shows the BP info and the CC you paid before leaving the store. They can cancel any transactions and pay you in cash right away.
Does this issue surrounding BP pertains to payments made using APP? meaning this BP issue will not apply if you have used traditional way of paying the account.
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Old Dec 22, 2017, 2:28 pm
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Is the app accurate, today's (Friday) Next Day payment will be received by Saturday?
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Old Dec 22, 2017, 2:44 pm
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I don't think I receive any paper receipt when I BP with the new app. Do you mean we need to check the receipt in the app?
Originally Posted by Travelz
I added this to the Wiki to help others avoid the problem with the app. Feel free to edit.

New MC App(11/17) - New app works in express lane for BP, but has issues making 2 or more payments in a row. Make one BP, then a MO, then another BP to avoid issues. Make sure your BP receipt shows the BP info and the CC you paid before leaving the store. They can cancel any transactions and pay you in cash right away.
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Old Dec 22, 2017, 2:58 pm
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Originally Posted by savingwizard
I don't think I receive any paper receipt when I BP with the new app. Do you mean we need to check the receipt in the app?
yes no receipt with app.

check in app last 4 off cc is on digital receipt
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Old Dec 22, 2017, 4:01 pm
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Originally Posted by lumangoy
Is the app accurate, today's (Friday) Next Day payment will be received by Saturday?
I believe this is correct but the credit card company may not post the payment the same day it receives it. Usually Monday or Tuesday.
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Old Dec 23, 2017, 5:34 am
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I hope this is better:

New MC App(11/17) - New app works in express lane for BP, but has issues making 2 or more payments in a row. Make one BP, then a MO, then another BP to avoid issues. Make sure you get a BP receipt in the app and it shows the BP info and the CC you paid before leaving the store. If you don't get a receipt and they have to print you one, make sure the CC you paid appears on the printed receipt. They can cancel any transactions and they will pay you in cash right away. If they cancel the transaction and their cash drawer opens, that means they should pay you in cash, if it doesn't open, the money will probably return to your cards.
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Old Dec 23, 2017, 7:42 am
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If you are bill paying CC using MC app and $500 VGC, how does it work? Does the app speed things up so the walmart system knows which credit card you are paying? instead of going the regular route of looking up by phone number etc? Do you still have to swipe the VGCs or you can load the VGCs into your app ahead time? which will speed things up considerably. Can someone chime how this works? Seems like this system is not bullet proof yet and has many bugs. If the app is only helping to locate the account and saving the digital receipt then I don't find it too attractive given the issues. Looking up your account by phone number doesn't take that long once the account is in their system.

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Old Dec 23, 2017, 8:07 am
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Originally Posted by Gitangali
If you are bill paying CC using MC app and $500 VGC, how does it work? Does the app speed things up so the walmart system knows which credit card you are paying? instead of going the regular route of looking up by phone number etc? Do you still have to swipe the VGCs or you can load the VGCs into your app ahead time? which will speed things up considerably. Can some chime how this works? Seems like this system is not bullet proof yet and has many bugs. If the app is only helping to locate the record and saving the digital receipt then I don't find it too attractive given the issues. Looking up your account by phone number doesn't take that long once the account is in their system.
1. yes, using WM app (if MC app is typo) speeds things because right after you scan the QR code and you're connected to the system, you can start paying once the total comes up.
2. paying via look up of phone number takes more time;
3.You CANNOT input/load your VGCs ahead of time, you swipe each DC one at a time at the register, limit of 4 swipes apply. If your store has the Express Lane which is made especially for WM app payments, you're likely to be the only one there so it's really faster and you don't have to worry about holding any line (EXCEPT if there are other MSers doing the same thing).

The procedure for sending money and B/P are just the same, when it works, it's great; BUT when there's a glitch, it may be an ordeal so best to do this at your go-to WM and not at one while you're on vacation that you can't easily go back to should there be issues. No paper receipt prints, you'll see it in your app, make sure to check that all info is correct. The last 4 digits of your DC payment(s) will also show.
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Old Dec 23, 2017, 9:38 am
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Thanks for the more than detailed explanation. Happy holidays!!
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Old Dec 24, 2017, 11:38 am
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The wiki has been updated with info about the issues only. Feel free to add more.
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Old Dec 24, 2017, 2:22 pm
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Originally Posted by Mamibear
If your store has the Express Lane which is made especially for WM app payments, you're likely to be the only one there so it's really faster and you don't have to worry about holding any line (EXCEPT if there are other MSers doing the same thing).
Not exactly. In WMs I have been to, both with and without MCs, the express line is serviced by the same clerks that are servicing regular customers. So you do cause a disturbance in the force, both in terms of holding up the regular line as well as generating nasty looks from those in the line. I don't mind using airline elite lines, but the WM express lane is a horse of another color ...
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