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Old Jan 10, 2015, 9:20 pm
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Nov 24, 2015

Dear XXXXXXXXX,

We want to let you know that we are making a change to your Target Prepaid REDcard® by American Express, and you will no longer be able to add money from your debit card at Target stores. As always, you can continue to add money to your Prepaid REDcard by using:

• Your debit card online through your Account
• Cash at a Target Store
• Direct Deposit (You can automatically add all or part of your paycheck, government benefits and federal tax refunds to your Prepaid REDcard)


DEAD FOR DEBIT CARD LOADS EFFECTIVE 10/12/2015 - MEMO: http://frequentmiler.boardingarea.co...uests-can-use/


DEAD FOR CREDIT CARD LOADS. (Amex GCs Included)

Effective May 6, 2015 registers are hard-coded to not allow credit card reload. PIN-based debit cards are working, however YMMV. PIN-based debit cards may be refused by cashiers.


WHAT IS TARGET PREPAID REDCARD?
Prepaid Redcard is a reloadable American Express card. It is only available to purchase at select Target stores.

    WEBSITE:
    This site may error when in Firefox, especially with adding payees / bill pay. Customer service says to use Chrome or Internet Explorer.
    https://amex.serve.com/prepaidredcard

    PREPAID REDCARD LOAD LIMITS
    Cash (or debit card) loading at Target: ** - $1,000/transaction, $2,500/day and $5,000/month
    Online Debit Card Load * - $200/day and $1,000/month
    Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
    Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
    ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month



    All "Monthly" limits are per calendar month and reset on the 1st of each month.
    Daily limits reset at midnight Eastern time, 9 PM Pacific time.

    *For online debit load, only use of bank-issued cards is allowed. The use of pre-paid debit cards (Netspend, Paypower, Univision, Paypal, etc.) and VGC/MGC/AGCs is not allowed. Your account will be flagged upon first/second attempt.

    ATM Withdrawals:
    No-fee ATM usage at US Target stores* and U.S. Allpoint network ATMs. (ATM usage not available at any other ATMs.) Find an Allpoint ATM at: www.allpointnetwork.com Note that some ATMs only allow $400/transaction. There is a $750/day and $2,000/month limit to ATM withdrawals.

    RedCard is only available in specific Target stores and is not available in all states. Go to this site to find a list of available locations:https://amex.serve.com/prepaidredcard

    FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
    Q: Can I reload a RB at a Target that doesn't sell RB?
    Yes. However, the cashier may not know how to do it. You may be able to coach them through it by saying "It's like reloading a Starbucks (or Gift) card". For step-by-step instructions on one method of 'coaching' new cashiers see Post#1904

    Q: Can I buy or reload a RB in North Carolina?
    See post here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/manuf...a-63.html#2520
    There is currently a software issue preventing any reload of any kind in NC. It is a known issue but there is no ETA on a fix.

    Q: Can I reload the RB at any register, or just at the Customer Service desk?
    It can be done at any register, however some cashiers are not trained on how to do this and you may have to go to Customer Service.

    Q: What is the most efficient way to drain a RedCard?
    Use BillPay to pay bills. For example, pay the credit card you used to load RedCard with. You can also withdraw money at ATMs.

    Q: I cant access the BillPay feature through the RB website!
    Verify that your account information correctly reflects a 10-digit phone number (including area code). Numerous people have reported that their account only had a 7-digit phone number (no area code) and that, after updating to a 10-digit phone number, BillPay miraculously started working.

    Q: Can we buy a temporary Redbird card while we still have a Bluebird or Serve account?
    Yes.

    Q: How many Redbird cards can you purchase at once?
    You can only purchase one Redbird card a day per SSN. If you plan to purchase more than one, be sure to use a different SSN for each purchase to avoid activation issues.

    Q: Can we register our temporary Redbird online while we still have a Bluebird or Serve account?
    No. You will have to cancel your Bluebird or Serve account first before registering.

    Q: How do I cancel my BlueBird or Serve Account online? Do I need to call them?
    Frequent Miler posted a useful trick that will help you cancel online How to cancel Bluebird online This works for both BlueBird and Serve.

    Q: Cancelled Bluebird, why does registering Redbird error out saying Bluebird is still active?
    If you have open transactions that have not been settled, like BillPay checks that have not yet been cashed, the account cannot settle and will not be truly closed. Thus Target will reject it until it's permanently closed.

    Q: Can we get Redbird online?
    No. The only way to get Redbird is to find a participating Target store and buy a temporary card there. Some people have purchased RB on Ebay, Amazon, or through private deals. Be aware that doing so may violate the TOS of one or more of these services. Also be aware that buying an un-activated RB, you are potentially buying "stolen" merchandise; the seller *may* have simply taken the un-activated RB cards from a target store without permission. At best they got permission from a low-level employee; they certainly are not getting permission from someone authorized to allow sale of RB outside of the current Target-authorized roll out markets. It is highly recommended to only buy already activated Redbirds because many Targets which do not offer Redbirds also will not be able to activate them and you will spend a month with the Customer Service line trying to get a new one.

    Q: Does the initial load you put in when purchasing the Redbird count against the monthly limit?
    No. After registering the Redbird online, any loads done will count against your monthly limit, even on your temp card.

    Q: Can we load Redbird with Target gift cards at Target?NO.
    When loading, the register displays a large message saying that gift cards cannot be used to pay for this transaction.

    Q: What are the card’s load limits per transaction at Target?
    [B]As of 2/2/2015 there is a maximum $1,000 load per transaction. You can no longer load the same RB multiple times (multiple swipes) in 1 transaction. Likewise, you can no longer load multiple RBs (say your's and your spouse's) in 1 transaction. Maximum of 1 load, for $1,000 per debit card payment. End of story.

    Q: What credit cards can I use to reload RedCard in Target stores?
    NONE. As of May 6, 2015, credit cards cannot be used to reload.

    Q: Can I reload with a debit card?
    Yes, but only if the debit card can be authenticated with PIN-number. Signature-based debit that processes on the Visa/MasterCard/AmEx networks will NOT work.

    Q: Can I reload with a prepaid debit card or Vanilla Visa?
    Yes, but only if you have a PIN for that card.

    Q: How can I load 2 debit cards in one transaction? Example 2x$500.
    1. Swipe debit card on my terminal after total comes up $1000.
    2. PIN pad comes up. Enter 4 digit PIN.
    3. Do you want cash back? press NO
    4. Do you want full amount on this card? press NO <<<Note: I pressed YES and did not have a step 5. - PHLisa
    5. Cashier reads something on register, asks how much on this card. $500. They push something to continue.
    6. Swipe card #2. Enter PIN
    7. Repeat 3 to 5. Total: 0.00
    8. Receipt prints. Thank cashier. The end.
    (thanks to Mamibear)

    Q: Can someone else buy a Redbird card for you?
    Yes. When you buy a temp Redbird card at Target, you have to give them your drivers license info, your SSN (can be any set of numbers, does not need to be real), birthdate, and more. Then, you have to register the card online in order to get a permanent card. In the process of registering online, they ask for the birthday of the original buyer on the first screen, but you can put your own and it will still work. Either way, you can still change the details on the following screens. I did this for my wife. I bought the card at Target and used my own driver’s license, SSN, etc. But, when I got home, I registered the card to my wife. I can’t promise this will work for everyone, but it worked for me.

    Q: Can you reload Serve/Bluebird at Target?
    No.

    Q: How do I contact Target's support team to resolve an issue with my RedCard?
    Call Target's Prepaid Resolution Team, their direct telephone number is 800 438 6468 (open from 8AM to 430PM MST).

    Q: Can you have both Redbird and AFT cards?
    Yes.
    You can have both Redbird and AFT since they are independent products.

    Q: I got a "Pending" notice that the registration is being reviewed, what now?
    Add [email protected] to your address book, and check your spam folder for an email about it. You can also call in. They will need images or faxes of:
    • Social Security Documentation (must clearly show full 9 digit Social Security Number). Choose 1 of the following options:
    ◦ Social Security Card, OR
    ◦ A Medicare insurance card
    Plus...
    • Picture ID
    ◦ A valid driver's license card OR
    ◦ A valid state issued ID OR
    ◦ A valid United States Government ID Card (e.g. Green Card) OR
    ◦ A valid United States Passport (photo page only)


    Secure Document Upload
    Here's the link to upload secure documents to REDcard: https://secure.prepaidredcard.com/User/SecureFileUpload
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    Old Jun 12, 2015, 2:39 pm
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    Originally Posted by ashegam
    Looks like we're back up here in NC, oh wait sorry just woke up from dreaming.
    Ha, that was a good one
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    Old Jun 12, 2015, 2:58 pm
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    system is still off line. 4PM
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    Old Jun 12, 2015, 3:01 pm
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    Originally Posted by Radster
    "Debit Cards — add money from your debit card at the register or by linking it to your Prepaid REDcard account online. Please note: Gift cards cannot be used to add money."
    Try any 'gift' card won't work, try a 'Debit' 'visa gift' card with a PIN works at registers because its a debit card, but for marketing purposes they label it 'gift' card. Law says Visa debit cards must have PIN. All 'real' Gift cards have no PIN.
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    Old Jun 12, 2015, 3:23 pm
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    Loaded 3 transactions today in Tampa FL @ 4:30 PM EST.
    Using Simons VGC
    1x$500
    1X$500
    2X$500
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    Old Jun 12, 2015, 3:23 pm
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    Back in Business

    Just loaded VGC @ 17:23 EST, SC
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    Old Jun 12, 2015, 3:25 pm
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    Originally Posted by prasha11
    Try any 'gift' card won't work, try a 'Debit' 'visa gift' card with a PIN works at registers because its a debit card, but for marketing purposes they label it 'gift' card. Law says Visa debit cards must have PIN. All 'real' Gift cards have no PIN.
    Your argument is fundamentally wrong i.e. VGCs are GC's which load as debit. They print GIFT CARD on them, cause they are - not for "marketing purposes". Most Target reps screening loads are looking for bank-issued debit cards - which obviously excludes VGCs. Anything else and your arguing confirmation bias semantics.
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    Old Jun 12, 2015, 3:25 pm
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    Originally Posted by pwd847
    Nobody is worried about losing their job. I used to work at Target and I used to give out my employee discount to friends. I did this because I could get away with it. There is nobody checking up on you. You just do it and move on. Running a VGC as debit is 1/10th the offense that giving out an employee discount is.

    The cashier managers sure don't check up on anything. The only ppl who are on top of their game is the assistant store managers and they are generally out on the sales floor, not hanging out by the checkout lanes.
    Originally Posted by Radster
    One CS rep told me directly "sorry, I cant load GCs. If I do Ill get in trouble". So that makes at least one person "worried about their job".

    Also, giving discounts to friends is one thing, but only an idiot would risk their job for complete strangers.

    Employees are going to have different points of view on everything, from which sports team is best to loading RBs with GCs. I would never pigeonhole Target employees with viewing MSing with RB in any one category; rather, I approach it as 'worst case' employee, who might view this is as 'stealing' from Target.

    Most employees aren't going to care, but I'm sure that there are more than a few employees who view this as 'stealing' from Target by costing the store money.

    I don't discuss getting FF miles with Target cashiers; if they ask, I comment it's so I can get 5% discount on everything that I buy at Target since I can't get the 5% if I use my regular debit card. That is true - I always pay for Target purchases on my RB.

    I don't bother telling Target cashiers that I also pay my mortgage and send money to my brokerage from my RB account, as that could lead to further questions and have employees view this as something dishonest.
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    Old Jun 12, 2015, 4:10 pm
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    Received the same exact email from Amex as everyone else has reported on here.

    I wonder if it's a good idea for me to actually print out this official statement from Amex and bring it with me next time I go to load in case I get denied for loading. The official message explicitly states that Debit cards may be loaded, which Debit-based VGC's are and the statement makes no mention about "regular" (other than Target) gift cards not being allowed.

    If a cashier/CS questions me, I can whip out the letter and point out the word "Debit" on my card and "Debit" in the letter simultaneously.
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    Old Jun 12, 2015, 4:11 pm
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    Confirmed

    System back up. 2x$500 successful in LA. Was VERY slow to process! Haha everyone must be at target!
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    Old Jun 12, 2015, 4:17 pm
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    ok so who is bold enough to try a CC load?
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    Old Jun 12, 2015, 4:27 pm
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    Originally Posted by Radster
    Your argument is fundamentally wrong i.e. VGCs are GC's which load as debit. They print GIFT CARD on them, cause they are - not for "marketing purposes". Most Target reps screening loads are looking for bank-issued debit cards - which obviously excludes VGCs. Anything else and your arguing confirmation bias semantics.
    Amen. Some very clueless people continue to blather away about what they know not. Yet are dead certain they are right
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    Old Jun 12, 2015, 4:39 pm
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    Originally Posted by livestrongforever
    ok so who is bold enough to try a CC load?
    What's so bold about swiping a credit card on the terminal? It just doesn't work, but you can sure try.
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    Old Jun 12, 2015, 4:44 pm
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    Originally Posted by JamieDee78
    Received the same exact email from Amex as everyone else has reported on here.

    I wonder if it's a good idea for me to actually print out this official statement from Amex and bring it with me next time I go to load in case I get denied for loading. The official message explicitly states that Debit cards may be loaded, which Debit-based VGC's are and the statement makes no mention about "regular" (other than Target) gift cards not being allowed.

    If a cashier/CS questions me, I can whip out the letter and point out the word "Debit" on my card and "Debit" in the letter simultaneously.
    Not a good idea. From the Redcard FAQ:

    "Debit Cards — add money from your debit card at the register or by linking it to your Prepaid REDcard account online. Please note: Gift cards cannot be used to add money."

    https://amex.serve.com/prepaidredcar...ng-add-money-1
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    Old Jun 12, 2015, 5:12 pm
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    Originally Posted by Radster
    Not a good idea. From the Redcard FAQ:

    "Debit Cards — add money from your debit card at the register or by linking it to your Prepaid REDcard account online. Please note: Gift cards cannot be used to add money."

    https://amex.serve.com/prepaidredcar...ng-add-money-1
    My interpretation of the bold print above is that this was always intended for "Target" gift cards. If they meant Visa gc's or MC gc's, I think they would've stated it that way and hard-coded their system to not allow them (like they already have with Target gift cards from the beginning and more recently with credit cards). Just my 2-cents' worth....
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    Old Jun 12, 2015, 5:12 pm
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    Originally Posted by prasha11
    Amen. Some very clueless people continue to blather away about what they know not. Yet are dead certain they are right
    Your bias is so strong that you misinterpret my challenge to you as agreement! Yowser.
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