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Nov 24, 2015

Dear XXXXXXXXX,

We want to let you know that we are making a change to your Target Prepaid REDcard® by American Express, and you will no longer be able to add money from your debit card at Target stores. As always, you can continue to add money to your Prepaid REDcard by using:

• Your debit card online through your Account
• Cash at a Target Store
• Direct Deposit (You can automatically add all or part of your paycheck, government benefits and federal tax refunds to your Prepaid REDcard)


DEAD FOR DEBIT CARD LOADS EFFECTIVE 10/12/2015 - MEMO: http://frequentmiler.boardingarea.co...uests-can-use/


DEAD FOR CREDIT CARD LOADS. (Amex GCs Included)

Effective May 6, 2015 registers are hard-coded to not allow credit card reload. PIN-based debit cards are working, however YMMV. PIN-based debit cards may be refused by cashiers.


WHAT IS TARGET PREPAID REDCARD?
Prepaid Redcard is a reloadable American Express card. It is only available to purchase at select Target stores.

    WEBSITE:
    This site may error when in Firefox, especially with adding payees / bill pay. Customer service says to use Chrome or Internet Explorer.
    https://amex.serve.com/prepaidredcard

    PREPAID REDCARD LOAD LIMITS
    Cash (or debit card) loading at Target: ** - $1,000/transaction, $2,500/day and $5,000/month
    Online Debit Card Load * - $200/day and $1,000/month
    Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
    Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
    ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month



    All "Monthly" limits are per calendar month and reset on the 1st of each month.
    Daily limits reset at midnight Eastern time, 9 PM Pacific time.

    *For online debit load, only use of bank-issued cards is allowed. The use of pre-paid debit cards (Netspend, Paypower, Univision, Paypal, etc.) and VGC/MGC/AGCs is not allowed. Your account will be flagged upon first/second attempt.

    ATM Withdrawals:
    No-fee ATM usage at US Target stores* and U.S. Allpoint network ATMs. (ATM usage not available at any other ATMs.) Find an Allpoint ATM at: www.allpointnetwork.com Note that some ATMs only allow $400/transaction. There is a $750/day and $2,000/month limit to ATM withdrawals.

    RedCard is only available in specific Target stores and is not available in all states. Go to this site to find a list of available locations:https://amex.serve.com/prepaidredcard

    FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
    Q: Can I reload a RB at a Target that doesn't sell RB?
    Yes. However, the cashier may not know how to do it. You may be able to coach them through it by saying "It's like reloading a Starbucks (or Gift) card". For step-by-step instructions on one method of 'coaching' new cashiers see Post#1904

    Q: Can I buy or reload a RB in North Carolina?
    See post here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/manuf...a-63.html#2520
    There is currently a software issue preventing any reload of any kind in NC. It is a known issue but there is no ETA on a fix.

    Q: Can I reload the RB at any register, or just at the Customer Service desk?
    It can be done at any register, however some cashiers are not trained on how to do this and you may have to go to Customer Service.

    Q: What is the most efficient way to drain a RedCard?
    Use BillPay to pay bills. For example, pay the credit card you used to load RedCard with. You can also withdraw money at ATMs.

    Q: I cant access the BillPay feature through the RB website!
    Verify that your account information correctly reflects a 10-digit phone number (including area code). Numerous people have reported that their account only had a 7-digit phone number (no area code) and that, after updating to a 10-digit phone number, BillPay miraculously started working.

    Q: Can we buy a temporary Redbird card while we still have a Bluebird or Serve account?
    Yes.

    Q: How many Redbird cards can you purchase at once?
    You can only purchase one Redbird card a day per SSN. If you plan to purchase more than one, be sure to use a different SSN for each purchase to avoid activation issues.

    Q: Can we register our temporary Redbird online while we still have a Bluebird or Serve account?
    No. You will have to cancel your Bluebird or Serve account first before registering.

    Q: How do I cancel my BlueBird or Serve Account online? Do I need to call them?
    Frequent Miler posted a useful trick that will help you cancel online How to cancel Bluebird online This works for both BlueBird and Serve.

    Q: Cancelled Bluebird, why does registering Redbird error out saying Bluebird is still active?
    If you have open transactions that have not been settled, like BillPay checks that have not yet been cashed, the account cannot settle and will not be truly closed. Thus Target will reject it until it's permanently closed.

    Q: Can we get Redbird online?
    No. The only way to get Redbird is to find a participating Target store and buy a temporary card there. Some people have purchased RB on Ebay, Amazon, or through private deals. Be aware that doing so may violate the TOS of one or more of these services. Also be aware that buying an un-activated RB, you are potentially buying "stolen" merchandise; the seller *may* have simply taken the un-activated RB cards from a target store without permission. At best they got permission from a low-level employee; they certainly are not getting permission from someone authorized to allow sale of RB outside of the current Target-authorized roll out markets. It is highly recommended to only buy already activated Redbirds because many Targets which do not offer Redbirds also will not be able to activate them and you will spend a month with the Customer Service line trying to get a new one.

    Q: Does the initial load you put in when purchasing the Redbird count against the monthly limit?
    No. After registering the Redbird online, any loads done will count against your monthly limit, even on your temp card.

    Q: Can we load Redbird with Target gift cards at Target?NO.
    When loading, the register displays a large message saying that gift cards cannot be used to pay for this transaction.

    Q: What are the card’s load limits per transaction at Target?
    [B]As of 2/2/2015 there is a maximum $1,000 load per transaction. You can no longer load the same RB multiple times (multiple swipes) in 1 transaction. Likewise, you can no longer load multiple RBs (say your's and your spouse's) in 1 transaction. Maximum of 1 load, for $1,000 per debit card payment. End of story.

    Q: What credit cards can I use to reload RedCard in Target stores?
    NONE. As of May 6, 2015, credit cards cannot be used to reload.

    Q: Can I reload with a debit card?
    Yes, but only if the debit card can be authenticated with PIN-number. Signature-based debit that processes on the Visa/MasterCard/AmEx networks will NOT work.

    Q: Can I reload with a prepaid debit card or Vanilla Visa?
    Yes, but only if you have a PIN for that card.

    Q: How can I load 2 debit cards in one transaction? Example 2x$500.
    1. Swipe debit card on my terminal after total comes up $1000.
    2. PIN pad comes up. Enter 4 digit PIN.
    3. Do you want cash back? press NO
    4. Do you want full amount on this card? press NO <<<Note: I pressed YES and did not have a step 5. - PHLisa
    5. Cashier reads something on register, asks how much on this card. $500. They push something to continue.
    6. Swipe card #2. Enter PIN
    7. Repeat 3 to 5. Total: 0.00
    8. Receipt prints. Thank cashier. The end.
    (thanks to Mamibear)

    Q: Can someone else buy a Redbird card for you?
    Yes. When you buy a temp Redbird card at Target, you have to give them your drivers license info, your SSN (can be any set of numbers, does not need to be real), birthdate, and more. Then, you have to register the card online in order to get a permanent card. In the process of registering online, they ask for the birthday of the original buyer on the first screen, but you can put your own and it will still work. Either way, you can still change the details on the following screens. I did this for my wife. I bought the card at Target and used my own driver’s license, SSN, etc. But, when I got home, I registered the card to my wife. I can’t promise this will work for everyone, but it worked for me.

    Q: Can you reload Serve/Bluebird at Target?
    No.

    Q: How do I contact Target's support team to resolve an issue with my RedCard?
    Call Target's Prepaid Resolution Team, their direct telephone number is 800 438 6468 (open from 8AM to 430PM MST).

    Q: Can you have both Redbird and AFT cards?
    Yes.
    You can have both Redbird and AFT since they are independent products.

    Q: I got a "Pending" notice that the registration is being reviewed, what now?
    Add [email protected] to your address book, and check your spam folder for an email about it. You can also call in. They will need images or faxes of:
    • Social Security Documentation (must clearly show full 9 digit Social Security Number). Choose 1 of the following options:
    ◦ Social Security Card, OR
    ◦ A Medicare insurance card
    Plus...
    • Picture ID
    ◦ A valid driver's license card OR
    ◦ A valid state issued ID OR
    ◦ A valid United States Government ID Card (e.g. Green Card) OR
    ◦ A valid United States Passport (photo page only)


    Secure Document Upload
    Here's the link to upload secure documents to REDcard: https://secure.prepaidredcard.com/User/SecureFileUpload
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    Old May 6, 2015, 8:06 am
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    Originally Posted by jpvetter
    AGC - Amex GC codes as cc buy from cashback websites online use to load VGC which brings down overall cost.
    But then you don't get the 5x by buying VGC's from OM/OD/Staples via Ink Plus/Cash cards.
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    Old May 6, 2015, 8:07 am
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    Originally Posted by air360
    I would be content with AGC->VGC->Redbird.
    For starters we would get to stay with Target - where I really enjoy most of the customer service people. Although
    you won't get to keep the extra kickback from the portals (due to fees) you still would get nearly the full CC rewards. And with the CC only seeing a few Amex GC purchases with no indication on what you are doing with them, there would be less likely of a redbird or CC shutdown from loading with a CC and directly bill paying the same CC
    I know this might not be the best place for this, and probably a stupid question, but when buying AGC for $500 and using it to buy a VGC for $500 +4.95 fee, how can you pay that additional small amount? Can u just use another credit card to pay the difference? I just want to be sure.
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    Old May 6, 2015, 8:14 am
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    Originally Posted by Amex For Children Of Africa
    I know this might not be the best place for this, and probably a stupid question, but when buying AGC for $500 and using it to buy a VGC for $500 +4.95 fee, how can you pay that additional small amount? Can u just use another credit card to pay the difference? I just want to be sure.
    Look at the AGC thread. People here are not talking about buying a $500 AGC with a $4.95 fee at a physical store.
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    Old May 6, 2015, 8:14 am
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    Originally Posted by Amex For Children Of Africa
    I know this might not be the best place for this, and probably a stupid question, but when buying AGC for $500 and using it to buy a VGC for $500 +4.95 fee, how can you pay that additional small amount? Can u just use another credit card to pay the difference? I just want to be sure.
    Just buy load your VGC with $495.05. I mean, maybe we really need to start composing infographics on how to MS.
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    Old May 6, 2015, 8:17 am
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    Originally Posted by ivr3ddit
    True, I normal glance thru this forum once a week....so glad I did yesterday and got to load $25k on 10 Redbirds yesterday evening

    I did purchase the CSR a Starbuck Frap for assisting me with the loads
    Aw. Sweet.
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    Old May 6, 2015, 8:18 am
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    Originally Posted by FindAWay
    Look at the AGC thread. People here are not talking about buying a $500 AGC with a $4.95 fee at a physical store.
    I understand what to do, I was just using a basic example. I know it's best to use a portal for 1.5% and buy $2k of AGC to lower the total fee cost, but I was just wondering what the deal is when buying say 4 $500 Simon GC with the AGC. I guess I'll just pay the $16 in fees with another card.
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    Old May 6, 2015, 8:19 am
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    Originally Posted by TMM1982
    But then you don't get the 5x by buying VGC's from OM/OD/Staples via Ink Plus/Cash cards.
    $50K/year max for Ink.
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    Old May 6, 2015, 8:25 am
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    Originally Posted by Amex For Children Of Africa
    I understand what to do, I was just using a basic example. I know it's best to use a portal for 1.5% and buy $2k of AGC to lower the total fee cost, but I was just wondering what the deal is when buying say 4 $500 Simon GC with the AGC. I guess I'll just pay the $16 in fees with another card.
    I may have to find a new method, since personalized/non-personalized AGC > VGC has been difficult for me in my area... I've had one successful VGC purchased with AGC at a Walmart, then that same Walmart has denied me from buying VGC sunnies several other times.. Tried other grocery stores several times, CVS/Rite Aid/Walgreens... No luck besides that 1 Sunnie that one time. So time to scout for another method haha
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    Old May 6, 2015, 8:25 am
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    Originally Posted by Amex For Children Of Africa
    I understand what to do, I was just using a basic example. I know it's best to use a portal for 1.5% and buy $2k of AGC to lower the total fee cost, but I was just wondering what the deal is when buying say 4 $500 Simon GC with the AGC. I guess I'll just pay the $16 in fees with another card.
    Since you say you know what to do, good luck buying Simon GC's with AGC's, lol.
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    Old May 6, 2015, 8:28 am
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    Originally Posted by rtraveler
    Since you say you know what to do, good luck buying Simon GC's with AGC's, lol.
    I've done it once for a small amount around me before. I guess you're right that it probably won't work for larger amounts.
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    Old May 6, 2015, 8:30 am
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    Stop spoon feeding the newbies please on MS methods. There is plenty of information on these boards they need to look at first like we all did at one time. He##, they can google blogs for step by step instructions...
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    Old May 6, 2015, 8:31 am
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    Originally Posted by MileageGoblin
    Stop spoon feeding the newbies please on MS methods. There is plenty of information on these boards they need to look at first like we all did at one time. He##, they can google blogs for step by step instructions...
    +1000
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    Old May 6, 2015, 8:31 am
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    Originally Posted by Amex For Children Of Africa
    I've done it once for a small amount around me before. I guess you're right that it probably won't work for larger amounts.
    Why don't you pull up Simon thread? Is that too hard?
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    Old May 6, 2015, 8:32 am
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    Originally Posted by regoarrarr
    Yes - I was able to load a Vanilla Visa as a debit card

    http://www.pointswithacrew.com/heres...redbird-today/
    Did you have to set a PIN before hand or just select debit and any 4 numbers?
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    Old May 6, 2015, 8:33 am
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    Originally Posted by Amex For Children Of Africa
    I understand what to do, I was just using a basic example. I know it's best to use a portal for 1.5% and buy $2k of AGC to lower the total fee cost, but I was just wondering what the deal is when buying say 4 $500 Simon GC with the AGC. I guess I'll just pay the $16 in fees with another card.
    Valid question as I pondered the same thing on what the best way to do things would be. If you got a 2k AGC and wanted to buy locally with 4.95 fee, then I would be 3 at the full 500 and then the 4th I would load 480.20 on it. That way you only have to load a weird amount on one card.

    Also - it's easy to see that you have 19.80 in fee plus the 3.95 AGC fee ...for a total of 23.75 in fees - but 2k gets back 30 at 1.5% portal - so you still profit 6.25
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