How to avoid BlueBird shut downs. Share your thoughts here.
#63
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Orange County, CA
Programs: HHonors Diamond, SPG Gold
Posts: 94
My Experience with Suspension of Bluebird Account
There are no limits. No one has ever reported having Bluebird shut down their account. Why Amex Bluebird would care is beyond me. If anyone is going to shut this points-earning scheme down it will be the MERCHANTS accepting credit cards for payments of VR cards and other prepaid cards or the CC ISSUERS giving points/miles for the credit card purchase of VR/debit/gift cards.
While I was in Maui, my wife received an email saying her BlueBird account had been suspended due to “unusual/irregular activity”. This was incredibly odd, because her account had just been open for a few days and had no transaction other than having $3000.00 loaded via Vanilla Reload Cards.
Once we got settled into our hotel, I called the BlueBird Customer Service Number to see what the issue was. I asked their representatives numerous times what the unusual/irregular activity was, but they refused to tell me, due to the sensitive nature of their security review procedures. He did finally tell me that it could “any number of things, such as invalid attempts to login, suspicious transactions and linking of bank accounts”. Since it was a new card, I quickly realized that the suspicious activity was due to the bank account that we had linked, just before leaving for Maui. I had linked our joint bank account to my wife’s BlueBird account, right before we received the email. What caused it to be suspicious was that same joint account was linked to my BlueBird account last month. Now, we hadn’t conducted any transactions with the bank account as we were still waiting for the two deposits to show up in the account for verification purposes, yet they still suspended her BlueBird account. I guess they find it suspicious/irregular for two people with a joint bank account to link to the same bank account.
To rectify the issue, I was asked to fax a copy of the social security card to their offices for identification purposes. Being in Maui, we didn’t have a copy with us, so we waited to return to the mainland to do so. After returning, I faxed a copy of the card and called the Customer Service line for further instructions. I was told that the fax was too “light” and they couldn’t read it. I asked if I could email a scan, but again, due to the sensitive nature of their security procedures, they can only accept faxes. I faxed another darker copy and another even darker copy and finally, on the 4th call to Customer Service, they acknowledged receiving and identifying my wife and subsequently released the suspended account. I again asked the Representative how I can avoid this situation again and again they said “….we can’t tell you, just know that your account is fine and you want have any problems anymore…”.
Moral of the story, do not link the same bank account to two separate BlueBird Accounts, as it will cause a security review of your account, resulting in a temporary suspension of your BlueBird Card.
#66
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Washington, DC
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Posts: 5,015
If you actually were able to load the SAME VRs to two different BB accounts, you would be committing fraud. So what do you mean by "SAME"? Or do you simply mean you can load VRs to your account that the wife cannot?
#67
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Land of the parrots and parrotheads
Programs: Several dozen
Posts: 4,820
In the early years of the 16th century, to combat the rising tide of religious unorthodoxy, the Pope gave Cardinal Ximinez of Spain leave to move without let or hindrance throughout the land, in a reign of violence, terror and torture that makes a smashing film. This was the Spanish Inquisition...
To quote Cardinal Ximinez: "Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise"
You are lucky they did not use the dreaded dish rack on you to force your confession.
To quote Cardinal Ximinez: "Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise"
You are lucky they did not use the dreaded dish rack on you to force your confession.
#68
Join Date: Sep 2009
Programs: Far too many
Posts: 315
Yes, that turned out to be the issue.
The BB transactions are displayed on a list of ten, with earlier transactions only appearing after a click on "next". So, while $5K had been loaded during the month, only part of that appeared on the top screen. Our error in arithmetic occurred as a result.
BTW, the CRs at both Vanilla and Amex were competent, patient, and willing to help me though I informed them I was calling on behalf of my wife.
DC Bob- right. The VR that was rejected by my wife's BB account loaded successfully to mine.
Thanks to everyone.
The BB transactions are displayed on a list of ten, with earlier transactions only appearing after a click on "next". So, while $5K had been loaded during the month, only part of that appeared on the top screen. Our error in arithmetic occurred as a result.
BTW, the CRs at both Vanilla and Amex were competent, patient, and willing to help me though I informed them I was calling on behalf of my wife.
DC Bob- right. The VR that was rejected by my wife's BB account loaded successfully to mine.
Thanks to everyone.
#69
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 141
Yes, that turned out to be the issue.
The BB transactions are displayed on a list of ten, with earlier transactions only appearing after a click on "next". So, while $5K had been loaded during the month, only part of that appeared on the top screen. Our error in arithmetic occurred as a result.
BTW, the CRs at both Vanilla and Amex were competent, patient, and willing to help me though I informed them I was calling on behalf of my wife.
DC Bob- right. The VR that was rejected by my wife's BB account loaded successfully to mine.
Thanks to everyone.
The BB transactions are displayed on a list of ten, with earlier transactions only appearing after a click on "next". So, while $5K had been loaded during the month, only part of that appeared on the top screen. Our error in arithmetic occurred as a result.
BTW, the CRs at both Vanilla and Amex were competent, patient, and willing to help me though I informed them I was calling on behalf of my wife.
DC Bob- right. The VR that was rejected by my wife's BB account loaded successfully to mine.
Thanks to everyone.
#70
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: LAS
Programs: DL PM, UA PS, Hyatt Globalist, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 4,904
I am actually not able to load a card to my wife's account and I am at 4496 limit. I do have a $5 refund for a purchase that was made using the card. Not sure if that is blocking the $500 to be loaded to the account. Well, will find out next month as the other account has had the monthly limit loaded already.
#71
Join Date: May 2000
Location: HH Gold, Marriott Gold, PC Plat, Emirates Silver
Posts: 2,679
Bluebird - advice on what NOT to do?
There has been a lot written about getting VR to load BB and some on what not to do. The what not to do advice gets lost in all the BB/VR threads. I wanted post dedicated to what NOT to do with BB and best ways to lower your chances of a FR from AMEX.
I imagine the biggest no no is to buy VR with an AMEX card then pay off the AMEX with BB.
What else shouldn't we do?
I imagine the biggest no no is to buy VR with an AMEX card then pay off the AMEX with BB.
What else shouldn't we do?
#73
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Chicago
Programs: Mileage Plus, Rapid Rewards
Posts: 949
Despite this and another similar thread, it's interesting to note that there is not a single report of a closed Bluebird account.
Because of that any conjecture as to what would result in a closure is speculative at best.
As far as the actual topic of the thread, the best way to avoid a FR would be to not buy more VR than your reported income to them at the time of application would support.
Because of that any conjecture as to what would result in a closure is speculative at best.
As far as the actual topic of the thread, the best way to avoid a FR would be to not buy more VR than your reported income to them at the time of application would support.
#74
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: USA
Posts: 1,179
There has been a lot written about getting VR to load BB and some on what not to do. The what not to do advice gets lost in all the BB/VR threads. I wanted post dedicated to what NOT to do with BB and best ways to lower your chances of a FR from AMEX.
I imagine the biggest no no is to buy VR with an AMEX card then pay off the AMEX with BB.
What else shouldn't we do?
I imagine the biggest no no is to buy VR with an AMEX card then pay off the AMEX with BB.
What else shouldn't we do?
That's all I've done for the last 3 months...no issues yet.
#75
Join Date: Apr 2013
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Posts: 553
Not exactly. But I wouldnt think of it in terms of slowly adding to your balances. I would move quicker but certainly within your own limits and pace. I just wouldnt expect things to last. This is with no special knowledge just an observation of whats taking place now vs 5-10 yrs ago.