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This is the Serve thread. Post questions or information concerning other topics in the appropriate threads elsewhere in this forum.

For additional information on using prepaid debit cards, see PIN available now for Visa/MC prepaid debit cards.

Mentions of Softcard (formerly ISIS) are purely incidental to setting up and using Serve/Softcard. Softcard does not hold money, and you cannot load to it.


You cannot make an ACH pull from Serve. The direct deposit account and routing numbers are for deposits only.

https://www.serve.com/#/add-cash

If your card doesn't say "debit" on the front, it isn't a debit card.


Loads at 7-11 and CVS are cash only. Debit cards are NOT allowed.

Loads at Walmart have been confirmed with debit cards. Self checkout does not work for loading Serve. Many Walmart stores are enforcing a rule against the use of prepaid debit cards when loading, even though the register and the MCE do not enforce. Do not make your prepaid debit cards visible. Show them a bank debit card if asked, then discreetly use your prepaid card when asked to swipe. Otherwise, you may be asked by management to never visit the MC (Walmart Money Center) again to load.

Debit loading at Family Dollar appears to be limited to $500 per day per store total (not per person or per account). Whoever gets there first gets the load for the day. Troubleshooting loading problems at FD


Normal Serve
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $7k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

Serve/Softcard Check if your phone/network is compatible
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $8k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

The SD card in the iPhone case used for Softcard is account specific. Once an account has been registered to a card, it cannot be used for another.

Temp Serve
You can only load a maximum of $500/day, $1000/month on a temporary card. Once you get your permanent card, then you can load more. The initial $500 when you purchase the temp card doesn't count against the $5,000/month load limit.


Online Credit Card Loads
Only one card can be linked at a time.

As of 10/09/14, coding of credit card loads changed. In general, Mastercard and American Express cards post as before; see below for information on point earning. Visa cards transact as a cash advance and, therefore, require available CA limit; although most cards post as a purchase.

The Chase Ink Bold is a charge card and has no cash advance ability.

Treated as purchase, earns cashback/points/miles:
  • Bank of America (FIA) (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Barclaycard (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Capital One (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Chase (MasterCard, Visa)
  • Citi (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Discover

Treated as purchase, but doesn't earn points/miles:
  • American Express (May count toward minimum spend)

Posts as a cash advance:
For online CC/DC loads, the name on the Serve account is supposed to match the name of the primary or joint cardholder. So using someone else's CC/DB card to load a Serve account is not allowed.

Several people have reported no problems with loading with an AU card in the Serve account holder's name. Increase your chances by making sure the AUs social security number is on file with the Credit Card. YMMV.

When adding a new card you will usually need to call Serve Account security (1-800-555-4318) for verification of the new card on the second load try. This verification usually requires uploading of a photo of your ID and the credit card. You may pre-emptively avoid the error by going to the above website, logging in, and uploading a scan of a photo ID and the card you are trying to add. You may call back to expedite approval.


Online Debit Card Loads
For online debit load, only use of bank-issued cards is allowed. The use of pre-paid debit cards (Netspend, Paypower, Univision, Paypal*, etc.) and VGC/MGC/AGCs is not allowed. While initial transactions may work, your account will eventually be flagged.


Switching to Serve or Serve/Softcard
Helpful instruction post, latest. Thanks raeneye.

Also see this thread: Switching from Serve to BlueBird - 31 day wait???

Switching to Serve/Softcard
  1. Call up Bluebird or Serve and close account. Make sure your account is at $0.00 before calling. Just close it, don't ask for a temp Serve or anything. CSR will say account is now closed and you have 30 days to change your mind should you decide to re-open it.
  2. Download the Softcard mobile app from Apple App Store or Google Play Store. If you're an iPhone user you have to buy the NFC CashWrap case from your carrier store.
  3. Launch Softcard Mobile App and create Softcard account. You'll be asked if you want to open a Serve account; Yes you do. Start the registration through Softcard mobile app for a Serve account, once you are finished you will be told you will receive an Email from Amex with your account approval. I waited a few hours and called Serve customer service like the wiki says and completed the registration.
  4. Once I got off the phone with Serve I received an email from Serve where I verified my account and email; at this point Amex Serve is open.
  5. Launch Softcard Mobile app again click add new
  6. Activate card with Softcard and select Amex Serve. Follow the instructions & you're good to add. Once this is complete a Serve Card will populate in Softcard. Must activate physical card to get full load limits. Check account status and it automatically credits to your serve account based on who you signed up with. (Verizon - $25, T-Mobile - $50, AT&T - $30 (For AT&T: Get $15 w/activation. Earn additional $15 w/account replenishment))

Switching from BB to Serve
  1. Login to BB account, bring account balance to Zero, (By Bill Pay, Send money, etc..)
  2. Call BB, tell them that you want to open a serve account and close your current BB account. after they check everything they will say something like: "Your account will be permanently closed after 31 days, you can reopen it within 31 day if you change your mind, and you can apply for your new Serve account now, just make sure use the exact same register info from BB."
  3. at this point BB is closed. next morning, goto CVS and get a temporary Serve card (only with cash), load $500, ($2.95 waived, Yeah!!)
  4. get back home, register temporary Serve online, First error: "phone number already registered, please try a different number" could be the my BB's ghost account still showing up on their system, could be my info is not match my BB's registration? i'm not really sure at this point. What I did is keep the same number but change from Cell phone to home phone. and registration went through
  5. after the register and login, second error: "We're still processing your application. Please check your email for an update"
  6. I have see people on the thread reported waiting for weeks for the same message, So, I pickup the phone and called them, ask them to speed up the process.
  7. CSR, told me that my account went to "account security protection department" transfer me to them.
  8. at account security protection department, they told me need to call back on my phone number which I registered to verify.
  9. after the call back of verification, CSR told me that my new Serve account is active now, email address verification will be send with in 5 minutes, permanent card will be received within 7-10 days.
  10. CSR also told me the I can load and spend on the temporary card, but not bill pay.

The number to call to approve your registration after closing Bluebird: Serve Account security 1-800-555-4318



Loading with debit card at Walmart register
Loads at register over $500 will sometimes trigger ID requirement. There is a limit of four swipes per transaction; this means your card plus three payments.

Training a WM cashier:
  • If the WM cashier doesn't know how to load the card, advise them to enter "70" then press "action code".
  • If you are using a temp card that doesn't have your name on it, you can swipe the card from your side of the terminal. The WM rep never has to touch any of your cards. The screen will say "enter account." That is your prompt to slide the card.
  • The terminal will ask the WM employee if you are loading in multiples of $2000. Advise them to enter "no."
  • Avoid saying gift card. Always refer to your card as a debit card.

Error Messages:
DEBIT NOT AVAILABLE
Received when I used a card I thought I had activated but hadn't.

DEBIT NOT APPROVED
Received when the card's monthly load limit had been reached.

TENDER NOT ALLOWED
Card was incorrectly read, or wrong PIN entered.

HOST TIMEOUT
Connection problems. The GC may be drained but the transaction should reverse itself, and funds will become available again. Try again later.


Using Serve
For online bill pay
  • You can pay the credit card that you used to buy VRs/GCs
  • Error 1302 means that you have 1 pending payment the same amount as the one you just submitted. For example, 1000 bill pay to sapphire preferred from Friday and then on Saturday you submit another bill pay for 1000 to sapphire preferred, you will get this error.
  • Tip: if using online bill pay to the same place multiple times, vary your amounts by $0.01 to make it easier to track since your confirmation number does not match the tracking number on your credit card statement



For bank transfers
Under Settings --> Funding & Transfers --> Bank & Cards --> U.S. Bank Account, you can add your bank info and transfer funds from your Serve card directly to your bank. The bank account must be verified, either by the standard "deposit 2 small sums into your account, such as $0.23 & $0.42" method, or doing an "instant verification" by actually logging into your bank account while still logged into Serve.
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Old Oct 8, 2013, 4:39 pm
  #961  
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
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Amex Serve - Free Load at CVS & 7-11 - Coming Soon

We are writing to tell you about some important changes to your American Express ServeŽ Account. These changes will allow us to provide you with even more value and convenience when you use your Account.

• Coming Soon - Free Ways to Add Cash at Retail Locations: American Express Serve customers will soon be able to add money to their Account for free at CVS/pharmacy stores nationwide and participating 7-Eleven locations. Stay tuned for more information.

You can now be able to add money as follows

$0 Direct Deposit
$0 Checking/Savings Account
$0 Debit/Credit Card

Coming Soon: Add cash for $0 at CVS/pharmacy stores nationwide and participating 7–Eleven locations (Hopefully we can swipe debit/credit card to load)

Load cash using MoneyPakŽ or Vanilla Reload (Third party fees may apply1)

NOTE: They also added a monthly fee of 1$ post Dec 3, 2013
This can be easily waived off if you deposit 500$ per month in your account
or simply keep your account balance 0$ and they wont take it into negative

Last edited by recklessmax; Oct 8, 2013 at 8:04 pm
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Old Oct 8, 2013, 4:44 pm
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Email from serve, New fees n most important, load $ for free at CVS n 7-11. Cc n gc please, I can dream :-)
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Old Oct 8, 2013, 4:46 pm
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FYI, found following in Serve T&C,

"b. Taxes.

As a result of new IRS rules, TRS may be required to report to the IRS and to you on Form 1099K the gross amount paid to you and received into your Account and, as applicable, Sub-Account(s). In order to carry out this required reporting, TRS will require your correct legal name and correct and valid Taxpayer Identification Number (usually your Social Security Number or Employer Identification Number) and, in some cases, a valid and complete Form W-9. Where you do not supply correct information, the IRS notifies us that it does match its records, or as otherwise required by Applicable Law, we will be required to back up withhold 28% of gross payments made to your Account. It is your responsibility to determine what, if any, taxes apply to the payments you make or receive and amounts you need to collect, report, or remit to the appropriate tax authority."
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Old Oct 8, 2013, 6:18 pm
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Originally Posted by digital330
FYI, found following in Serve T&C,

"b. Taxes.

As a result of new IRS rules, TRS may be required to report to the IRS and to you on Form 1099K the gross amount paid to you and received into your Account and, as applicable, Sub-Account(s). In order to carry out this required reporting, TRS will require your correct legal name and correct and valid Taxpayer Identification Number (usually your Social Security Number or Employer Identification Number) and, in some cases, a valid and complete Form W-9. Where you do not supply correct information, the IRS notifies us that it does match its records, or as otherwise required by Applicable Law, we will be required to back up withhold 28% of gross payments made to your Account. It is your responsibility to determine what, if any, taxes apply to the payments you make or receive and amounts you need to collect, report, or remit to the appropriate tax authority."
Has that always been there or was it recently added along with the updated monthly fees email folks are getting?
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Old Oct 8, 2013, 8:10 pm
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digital330 reported:

"b. Taxes.

As a result of new IRS rules, TRS may be required to report to the IRS and to you on Form 1099K the gross amount paid to you and received into your Account and, as applicable, Sub-Account(s). In order to carry out this required reporting, TRS will require your correct legal name and correct and valid Taxpayer Identification Number (usually your Social Security Number or Employer Identification Number) and, in some cases, a valid and complete Form W-9. Where you do not supply correct information, the IRS notifies us that it does match its records, or as otherwise required by Applicable Law, we will be required to back up withhold 28% of gross payments made to your Account. It is your responsibility to determine what, if any, taxes apply to the payments you make or receive and amounts you need to collect, report, or remit to the appropriate tax authority."

TRS = “TRS” or “AXP” means American Express Travel Related Services Company, Inc.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/21575963-post962.html

https://www.serve.com/legal.html?int...er-legal#taxes
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Old Oct 8, 2013, 9:32 pm
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Originally Posted by nuclfusion
Has that always been there or was it recently added along with the updated monthly fees email folks are getting?


It does say New IRS rules but not sure just how new though but wording does not sound good.
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Old Oct 9, 2013, 9:03 am
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Does anyone get an error when trying to add new bills to Serve -- something along the lines of being unable to add or modify a payee? I have gotten this error repeatedly over the past few weeks, no matter which bill I try to add. Serve claims that there are no restrictions on my account, but that Serve is performing some sort of check to ensure that the payee will accept the payment, and so the payees I'm entering must not be willing to accept payments from Serve. Seems like a doubtful explanation to me since I am just using the address from a credit card bill.
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Old Oct 9, 2013, 9:52 am
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Free Cash Load Network: Starting this November, American Express Serve customers will be able to take cash to the register at more than 14,000 participating CVS/pharmacy and 7-Eleven stores and add it to their American Express Serve Account. This is made possible through a relationship with InComm and its Vanilla Reload Network.
http://www.businesswire.com/news/hom...t-Capabilities

I fear they are going to implement the cash reload feature the way it's done in Dollar General and Family Dollar stores. I.e. it accepts debit cards at best for reload. I'd also think CVS made sure there is your name on card, as they do currently for VR purchases.

Worst, VRs at those locations could morph to "in-store use only" cards with only barcode and nothing else on the back side (as currently in Dollar General and Family Dollar stores). Thus only applicable to use for cash reload via Incomm system in-store. Such card/process doesn't accept CC...

Thus CVS might drop out completely as useful MS tool with VR regard...
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Old Oct 10, 2013, 12:03 am
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Originally Posted by pier11
http://www.businesswire.com/news/hom...t-Capabilities

I fear they are going to implement the cash reload feature the way it's done in Dollar General and Family Dollar stores. I.e. it accepts debit cards at best for reload. I'd also think CVS made sure there is your name on card, as they do currently for VR purchases.

Worst, VRs at those locations could morph to "in-store use only" cards with only barcode and nothing else on the back side (as currently in Dollar General and Family Dollar stores). Thus only applicable to use for cash reload via Incomm system in-store. Such card/process doesn't accept CC...

Thus CVS might drop out completely as useful MS tool with VR regard...
I highly doubt that would be true as its only the serve card that will be enabled for this , not bluebird or other cards that can still be loaded via VR

Also under Add Money summary they have various ways to load serve
in that they have the following
- Add cash for $0 at nationwide CVS/pharmacy and participating 7-ElevenŽ locations1
-Add cash using MoneyPakŽ or Vanilla Reload (Third party fees may apply2)

So they have both the options available for adding Money
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Old Oct 10, 2013, 5:19 am
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Originally Posted by recklessmax
I highly doubt that would be true as its only the serve card that will be enabled for this , not bluebird or other cards that can still be loaded via VR

Also under Add Money summary they have various ways to load serve
in that they have the following
- Add cash for $0 at nationwide CVS/pharmacy and participating 7-ElevenŽ locations1
-Add cash using MoneyPakŽ or Vanilla Reload (Third party fees may apply2)

So they have both the options available for adding Money
Option 1 is in CVS/7-11,
Option 2 is in other places.

Other cards - BB, MVD, etc. - can obviously be loaded via in-store Incomm system in CVS. As the current case in Dollar General and Family Dollar (Well not for BB, but for the rest of cards.)

So nothing contrary to my original post...
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Old Oct 10, 2013, 5:28 am
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I'm not understanding this exactly. Does this mean I will be able to go to a CVS to load BB instead of WM? There are like 10 CVSs closer to me than the nearest WM, so that would be great.
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Old Oct 10, 2013, 6:22 am
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Originally Posted by aradisc
I'm not understanding this exactly. Does this mean I will be able to go to a CVS to load BB instead of WM? There are like 10 CVSs closer to me than the nearest WM, so that would be great.
No word on BB yet. They are promicing it for Serve in November.
But CC load might not be available. (I refer to similar approach of Dollar General/Family Dollar stores.)
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Old Oct 10, 2013, 6:39 am
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Originally Posted by pier11
Other cards - BB, MVD, etc. - can obviously be loaded via in-store Incomm system in CVS. As the current case in Dollar General and Family Dollar (Well not for BB, but for the rest of cards.)
Can they be loaded with debit @ these places? I heard cash only.
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Old Oct 10, 2013, 7:02 am
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Originally Posted by vagrants
Can they be loaded with debit @ these places? I heard cash only.
You are probably right. Re-checked FM article/comments again - nothing affirmative on debit.

I tried to bring point that current in-store InComm systems don't support CC...
And maybe it's where CVS/InComm/Banks want to be...
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Old Oct 10, 2013, 4:38 pm
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Originally Posted by recklessmax

You can now be able to add money as follows

"$0 Debit/Credit Card"
3. Cash advance fees for credit card loads may apply; please check with your credit card issuer for details.

https://www.serve.com/how-it-works/

Hmm...
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