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Read the wiki before posting a question.
It's a literacy test that's easy to pass.

This is the Serve thread. Post questions or information concerning other topics in the appropriate threads elsewhere in this forum.

For additional information on using prepaid debit cards, see PIN available now for Visa/MC prepaid debit cards.

Mentions of Softcard (formerly ISIS) are purely incidental to setting up and using Serve/Softcard. Softcard does not hold money, and you cannot load to it.


You cannot make an ACH pull from Serve. The direct deposit account and routing numbers are for deposits only.

https://www.serve.com/#/add-cash

If your card doesn't say "debit" on the front, it isn't a debit card.


Loads at 7-11 and CVS are cash only. Debit cards are NOT allowed.

Loads at Walmart have been confirmed with debit cards. Self checkout does not work for loading Serve. Many Walmart stores are enforcing a rule against the use of prepaid debit cards when loading, even though the register and the MCE do not enforce. Do not make your prepaid debit cards visible. Show them a bank debit card if asked, then discreetly use your prepaid card when asked to swipe. Otherwise, you may be asked by management to never visit the MC (Walmart Money Center) again to load.

Debit loading at Family Dollar appears to be limited to $500 per day per store total (not per person or per account). Whoever gets there first gets the load for the day. Troubleshooting loading problems at FD


Normal Serve
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $7k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

Serve/Softcard Check if your phone/network is compatible
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $8k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

The SD card in the iPhone case used for Softcard is account specific. Once an account has been registered to a card, it cannot be used for another.

Temp Serve
You can only load a maximum of $500/day, $1000/month on a temporary card. Once you get your permanent card, then you can load more. The initial $500 when you purchase the temp card doesn't count against the $5,000/month load limit.


Online Credit Card Loads
Only one card can be linked at a time.

As of 10/09/14, coding of credit card loads changed. In general, Mastercard and American Express cards post as before; see below for information on point earning. Visa cards transact as a cash advance and, therefore, require available CA limit; although most cards post as a purchase.

The Chase Ink Bold is a charge card and has no cash advance ability.

Treated as purchase, earns cashback/points/miles:
  • Bank of America (FIA) (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Barclaycard (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Capital One (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Chase (MasterCard, Visa)
  • Citi (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Discover

Treated as purchase, but doesn't earn points/miles:
  • American Express (May count toward minimum spend)

Posts as a cash advance:
For online CC/DC loads, the name on the Serve account is supposed to match the name of the primary or joint cardholder. So using someone else's CC/DB card to load a Serve account is not allowed.

Several people have reported no problems with loading with an AU card in the Serve account holder's name. Increase your chances by making sure the AUs social security number is on file with the Credit Card. YMMV.

When adding a new card you will usually need to call Serve Account security (1-800-555-4318) for verification of the new card on the second load try. This verification usually requires uploading of a photo of your ID and the credit card. You may pre-emptively avoid the error by going to the above website, logging in, and uploading a scan of a photo ID and the card you are trying to add. You may call back to expedite approval.


Online Debit Card Loads
For online debit load, only use of bank-issued cards is allowed. The use of pre-paid debit cards (Netspend, Paypower, Univision, Paypal*, etc.) and VGC/MGC/AGCs is not allowed. While initial transactions may work, your account will eventually be flagged.


Switching to Serve or Serve/Softcard
Helpful instruction post, latest. Thanks raeneye.

Also see this thread: Switching from Serve to BlueBird - 31 day wait???

Switching to Serve/Softcard
  1. Call up Bluebird or Serve and close account. Make sure your account is at $0.00 before calling. Just close it, don't ask for a temp Serve or anything. CSR will say account is now closed and you have 30 days to change your mind should you decide to re-open it.
  2. Download the Softcard mobile app from Apple App Store or Google Play Store. If you're an iPhone user you have to buy the NFC CashWrap case from your carrier store.
  3. Launch Softcard Mobile App and create Softcard account. You'll be asked if you want to open a Serve account; Yes you do. Start the registration through Softcard mobile app for a Serve account, once you are finished you will be told you will receive an Email from Amex with your account approval. I waited a few hours and called Serve customer service like the wiki says and completed the registration.
  4. Once I got off the phone with Serve I received an email from Serve where I verified my account and email; at this point Amex Serve is open.
  5. Launch Softcard Mobile app again click add new
  6. Activate card with Softcard and select Amex Serve. Follow the instructions & you're good to add. Once this is complete a Serve Card will populate in Softcard. Must activate physical card to get full load limits. Check account status and it automatically credits to your serve account based on who you signed up with. (Verizon - $25, T-Mobile - $50, AT&T - $30 (For AT&T: Get $15 w/activation. Earn additional $15 w/account replenishment))

Switching from BB to Serve
  1. Login to BB account, bring account balance to Zero, (By Bill Pay, Send money, etc..)
  2. Call BB, tell them that you want to open a serve account and close your current BB account. after they check everything they will say something like: "Your account will be permanently closed after 31 days, you can reopen it within 31 day if you change your mind, and you can apply for your new Serve account now, just make sure use the exact same register info from BB."
  3. at this point BB is closed. next morning, goto CVS and get a temporary Serve card (only with cash), load $500, ($2.95 waived, Yeah!!)
  4. get back home, register temporary Serve online, First error: "phone number already registered, please try a different number" could be the my BB's ghost account still showing up on their system, could be my info is not match my BB's registration? i'm not really sure at this point. What I did is keep the same number but change from Cell phone to home phone. and registration went through
  5. after the register and login, second error: "We're still processing your application. Please check your email for an update"
  6. I have see people on the thread reported waiting for weeks for the same message, So, I pickup the phone and called them, ask them to speed up the process.
  7. CSR, told me that my account went to "account security protection department" transfer me to them.
  8. at account security protection department, they told me need to call back on my phone number which I registered to verify.
  9. after the call back of verification, CSR told me that my new Serve account is active now, email address verification will be send with in 5 minutes, permanent card will be received within 7-10 days.
  10. CSR also told me the I can load and spend on the temporary card, but not bill pay.

The number to call to approve your registration after closing Bluebird: Serve Account security 1-800-555-4318



Loading with debit card at Walmart register
Loads at register over $500 will sometimes trigger ID requirement. There is a limit of four swipes per transaction; this means your card plus three payments.

Training a WM cashier:
  • If the WM cashier doesn't know how to load the card, advise them to enter "70" then press "action code".
  • If you are using a temp card that doesn't have your name on it, you can swipe the card from your side of the terminal. The WM rep never has to touch any of your cards. The screen will say "enter account." That is your prompt to slide the card.
  • The terminal will ask the WM employee if you are loading in multiples of $2000. Advise them to enter "no."
  • Avoid saying gift card. Always refer to your card as a debit card.

Error Messages:
DEBIT NOT AVAILABLE
Received when I used a card I thought I had activated but hadn't.

DEBIT NOT APPROVED
Received when the card's monthly load limit had been reached.

TENDER NOT ALLOWED
Card was incorrectly read, or wrong PIN entered.

HOST TIMEOUT
Connection problems. The GC may be drained but the transaction should reverse itself, and funds will become available again. Try again later.


Using Serve
For online bill pay
  • You can pay the credit card that you used to buy VRs/GCs
  • Error 1302 means that you have 1 pending payment the same amount as the one you just submitted. For example, 1000 bill pay to sapphire preferred from Friday and then on Saturday you submit another bill pay for 1000 to sapphire preferred, you will get this error.
  • Tip: if using online bill pay to the same place multiple times, vary your amounts by $0.01 to make it easier to track since your confirmation number does not match the tracking number on your credit card statement



For bank transfers
Under Settings --> Funding & Transfers --> Bank & Cards --> U.S. Bank Account, you can add your bank info and transfer funds from your Serve card directly to your bank. The bank account must be verified, either by the standard "deposit 2 small sums into your account, such as $0.23 & $0.42" method, or doing an "instant verification" by actually logging into your bank account while still logged into Serve.
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Old Dec 7, 2013, 6:51 pm
  #1111  
 
Join Date: May 2011
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Originally Posted by msnut1
I got my serve card about 7 days ago, was able to load using my FIA Amex CC. (I loaded different amounts: $100, $120, $140). For the last 2 days when I tried to load $90, I keep getting the error:

You have the following errors.

We're sorry - we are unable to complete your add funds request at this time. Please call Customer Service at 1-800-555-4318 so that we may help you with your request.

I called CS and they said that they could not find a problem on the serve side, the CC company might be blocking the purchase. I'm going to call them up and find out. Anyone else experience this with FIA Amex CC?
Got the same thing today. Will try again tomorrow.
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Old Dec 9, 2013, 7:39 pm
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is serve down or something? last 2 days I keep logging in and right before my account loads it says:

Technical Difficulties
Due to technical difficulties we are unable to process your request at the moment. Please try again.

We apologize for the inconvenience.


BUT, it will login if you use the serve app on android...
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Old Dec 9, 2013, 10:41 pm
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Originally Posted by killercut
is serve down or something? last 2 days I keep logging in and right before my account loads it says:

Technical Difficulties
Due to technical difficulties we are unable to process your request at the moment. Please try again.

We apologize for the inconvenience.


BUT, it will login if you use the serve app on android...
The website is working for me (at least, I can login and navigate around the site; haven't done any transactions today).
Maybe try a different web browser (I'm currently using Firefox). Try disabling ....... if you use that (previously, with ......., the serve website would make my browser use up all my cpu and appear to never finish loading).
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Old Dec 10, 2013, 6:40 am
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I can login, but when its supposed to show me my account it comes up with the technical difficulties page. everything loads fast on my computer...
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Old Dec 10, 2013, 5:27 pm
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Originally Posted by sbft77
Maybe we should be careful about talking too much about what works at CVS...
But I had basically the same experience as you, except I swiped the gift card myself, and it asked me Debit or Credit; I selected debit and entered a PIN (didn't try pressing Credit).
The Serve app (on Android at least) has a funny bug: it shows the transaction as a purchase, rather than a load. But it correctly showed the increased balance, and the website shows it as Cash Reload.
I tried this and it didnt work. They tried to use the reload option on their screen and then swipe the serve card and it says account cannot be found This is the same way green dot cards are loaded

If there is specific procedure please find out from your cvs cashier
here the cashiers are clueless on what can be done as system is not recognizing serve cards

ANybody who done it sucessfully please post the method how cvs cashier can load fund directly on a registered serve card
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Old Dec 11, 2013, 8:42 pm
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Tried on iPhone. Same error
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Old Dec 12, 2013, 4:56 am
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Originally Posted by killercut
I can login, but when its supposed to show me my account it comes up with the technical difficulties page. everything loads fast on my computer...
I think that means your account has a problem, even though it's appearing like a general error that applies to everyone. Log into your mobile app and click "Bill Pay"... you'll probably get an error there, too. And there will be a button at the upper-right that says "Verify SSN", but if you verify it, it won't make the button go away.
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Old Dec 12, 2013, 2:11 pm
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Am I First? $900 CC Reload at CVS

Am I first to report this? If so, let's remember not to abuse this... we don't want too much attention being paid here and we don't want to get shut down.

That said, I loaded $900 onto my serve card today from credit cards at CVS. I assumed I could do this cause previous reloads seemed to be reported as cash.

I tried to do a $990 transaction but it wouldn't go through on their computer. We then did $450, $250, and $250 transactions all of which went through without problem.
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Old Dec 12, 2013, 3:18 pm
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Originally Posted by jmj8778
I tried to do a $990 transaction but it wouldn't go through on their computer. We then did $450, $250, and $250 transactions all of which went through without problem.
Did you do the 3 smaller transactions all at once right after each other?

Did they ever look at your ID to match the Serve card? I don't want to give up my BB but I think I'll sign my wife up for Serve but she doesn't play this game so it would have to be me loading it for her.
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Old Dec 12, 2013, 3:30 pm
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unwise move
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Old Dec 12, 2013, 4:18 pm
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Also, do we know how the credit card company bills this? The card that would make the most sense to use for me is the Citi TYP, and I know Citi seems to have the lowest threshold to bill something as a cash advance.
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Old Dec 12, 2013, 6:30 pm
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My wife signed for Serve last week after buying the Serve card from CVS. Today she got a mail from Amex that they want a copy of her SSN and DL through email,fax or post.
Till now me/wife have never sent copy of SSN or DL to any bank/CC company.Most of the time they ask it over phone and done with it.
Is it ok to provide copies of these documents?
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Old Dec 12, 2013, 8:11 pm
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Originally Posted by jmj8778
Am I first to report this? If so, let's remember not to abuse this... we don't want too much attention being paid here and we don't want to get shut down.

That said, I loaded $900 onto my serve card today from credit cards at CVS. I assumed I could do this cause previous reloads seemed to be reported as cash.

I tried to do a $990 transaction but it wouldn't go through on their computer. We then did $450, $250, and $250 transactions all of which went through without problem.
Can you please check with cashier how this was done... i mean the process of loading . My cashiers are more than willing as my cvs manager knows me well but everytime they try to do the reload and swipe my serve card for account number it says not recognized

whats the process to load the serve card directly ?
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Old Dec 12, 2013, 8:18 pm
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Originally Posted by SVUS
My wife signed for Serve last week after buying the Serve card from CVS. Today she got a mail from Amex that they want a copy of her SSN and DL through email,fax or post.
Till now me/wife have never sent copy of SSN or DL to any bank/CC company.Most of the time they ask it over phone and done with it.
Is it ok to provide copies of these documents?
Yes... I had to too.
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Old Dec 12, 2013, 8:45 pm
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Join Date: Aug 2011
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I posted in here earlier this year about my issues with Serve. Unfortunately I have a spend requirement I need to hit this month so I decided I'd load to my account from CC again. First CC load went through... waited about 10 days to do it again (used it to make a real purchase as well at Amazon in between) and still got the dreaded call customer service message.

Long story short they said they had to do a bank verification for me to be able to load with the card again, but that I could use the funds currently on the card. I pointed out, however, I previously went through this exact same sequence of events before and they saw this on the notes that I'd had a bank verification already done in the past. I was then told a bank verification has to be done anytime a different debit card / credit card is used to fund the account (even though the first load went through fine)... and even though my bank and my checking funding source has remained the same, it isn't enough proof that it is 'really me' on the account. Ridiculous!
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