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This is the Serve thread. Post questions or information concerning other topics in the appropriate threads elsewhere in this forum.

For additional information on using prepaid debit cards, see PIN available now for Visa/MC prepaid debit cards.

Mentions of Softcard (formerly ISIS) are purely incidental to setting up and using Serve/Softcard. Softcard does not hold money, and you cannot load to it.


You cannot make an ACH pull from Serve. The direct deposit account and routing numbers are for deposits only.

https://www.serve.com/#/add-cash

If your card doesn't say "debit" on the front, it isn't a debit card.


Loads at 7-11 and CVS are cash only. Debit cards are NOT allowed.

Loads at Walmart have been confirmed with debit cards. Self checkout does not work for loading Serve. Many Walmart stores are enforcing a rule against the use of prepaid debit cards when loading, even though the register and the MCE do not enforce. Do not make your prepaid debit cards visible. Show them a bank debit card if asked, then discreetly use your prepaid card when asked to swipe. Otherwise, you may be asked by management to never visit the MC (Walmart Money Center) again to load.

Debit loading at Family Dollar appears to be limited to $500 per day per store total (not per person or per account). Whoever gets there first gets the load for the day. Troubleshooting loading problems at FD


Normal Serve
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $7k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

Serve/Softcard Check if your phone/network is compatible
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $8k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

The SD card in the iPhone case used for Softcard is account specific. Once an account has been registered to a card, it cannot be used for another.

Temp Serve
You can only load a maximum of $500/day, $1000/month on a temporary card. Once you get your permanent card, then you can load more. The initial $500 when you purchase the temp card doesn't count against the $5,000/month load limit.


Online Credit Card Loads
Only one card can be linked at a time.

As of 10/09/14, coding of credit card loads changed. In general, Mastercard and American Express cards post as before; see below for information on point earning. Visa cards transact as a cash advance and, therefore, require available CA limit; although most cards post as a purchase.

The Chase Ink Bold is a charge card and has no cash advance ability.

Treated as purchase, earns cashback/points/miles:
  • Bank of America (FIA) (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Barclaycard (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Capital One (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Chase (MasterCard, Visa)
  • Citi (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Discover

Treated as purchase, but doesn't earn points/miles:
  • American Express (May count toward minimum spend)

Posts as a cash advance:
For online CC/DC loads, the name on the Serve account is supposed to match the name of the primary or joint cardholder. So using someone else's CC/DB card to load a Serve account is not allowed.

Several people have reported no problems with loading with an AU card in the Serve account holder's name. Increase your chances by making sure the AUs social security number is on file with the Credit Card. YMMV.

When adding a new card you will usually need to call Serve Account security (1-800-555-4318) for verification of the new card on the second load try. This verification usually requires uploading of a photo of your ID and the credit card. You may pre-emptively avoid the error by going to the above website, logging in, and uploading a scan of a photo ID and the card you are trying to add. You may call back to expedite approval.


Online Debit Card Loads
For online debit load, only use of bank-issued cards is allowed. The use of pre-paid debit cards (Netspend, Paypower, Univision, Paypal*, etc.) and VGC/MGC/AGCs is not allowed. While initial transactions may work, your account will eventually be flagged.


Switching to Serve or Serve/Softcard
Helpful instruction post, latest. Thanks raeneye.

Also see this thread: Switching from Serve to BlueBird - 31 day wait???

Switching to Serve/Softcard
  1. Call up Bluebird or Serve and close account. Make sure your account is at $0.00 before calling. Just close it, don't ask for a temp Serve or anything. CSR will say account is now closed and you have 30 days to change your mind should you decide to re-open it.
  2. Download the Softcard mobile app from Apple App Store or Google Play Store. If you're an iPhone user you have to buy the NFC CashWrap case from your carrier store.
  3. Launch Softcard Mobile App and create Softcard account. You'll be asked if you want to open a Serve account; Yes you do. Start the registration through Softcard mobile app for a Serve account, once you are finished you will be told you will receive an Email from Amex with your account approval. I waited a few hours and called Serve customer service like the wiki says and completed the registration.
  4. Once I got off the phone with Serve I received an email from Serve where I verified my account and email; at this point Amex Serve is open.
  5. Launch Softcard Mobile app again click add new
  6. Activate card with Softcard and select Amex Serve. Follow the instructions & you're good to add. Once this is complete a Serve Card will populate in Softcard. Must activate physical card to get full load limits. Check account status and it automatically credits to your serve account based on who you signed up with. (Verizon - $25, T-Mobile - $50, AT&T - $30 (For AT&T: Get $15 w/activation. Earn additional $15 w/account replenishment))

Switching from BB to Serve
  1. Login to BB account, bring account balance to Zero, (By Bill Pay, Send money, etc..)
  2. Call BB, tell them that you want to open a serve account and close your current BB account. after they check everything they will say something like: "Your account will be permanently closed after 31 days, you can reopen it within 31 day if you change your mind, and you can apply for your new Serve account now, just make sure use the exact same register info from BB."
  3. at this point BB is closed. next morning, goto CVS and get a temporary Serve card (only with cash), load $500, ($2.95 waived, Yeah!!)
  4. get back home, register temporary Serve online, First error: "phone number already registered, please try a different number" could be the my BB's ghost account still showing up on their system, could be my info is not match my BB's registration? i'm not really sure at this point. What I did is keep the same number but change from Cell phone to home phone. and registration went through
  5. after the register and login, second error: "We're still processing your application. Please check your email for an update"
  6. I have see people on the thread reported waiting for weeks for the same message, So, I pickup the phone and called them, ask them to speed up the process.
  7. CSR, told me that my account went to "account security protection department" transfer me to them.
  8. at account security protection department, they told me need to call back on my phone number which I registered to verify.
  9. after the call back of verification, CSR told me that my new Serve account is active now, email address verification will be send with in 5 minutes, permanent card will be received within 7-10 days.
  10. CSR also told me the I can load and spend on the temporary card, but not bill pay.

The number to call to approve your registration after closing Bluebird: Serve Account security 1-800-555-4318



Loading with debit card at Walmart register
Loads at register over $500 will sometimes trigger ID requirement. There is a limit of four swipes per transaction; this means your card plus three payments.

Training a WM cashier:
  • If the WM cashier doesn't know how to load the card, advise them to enter "70" then press "action code".
  • If you are using a temp card that doesn't have your name on it, you can swipe the card from your side of the terminal. The WM rep never has to touch any of your cards. The screen will say "enter account." That is your prompt to slide the card.
  • The terminal will ask the WM employee if you are loading in multiples of $2000. Advise them to enter "no."
  • Avoid saying gift card. Always refer to your card as a debit card.

Error Messages:
DEBIT NOT AVAILABLE
Received when I used a card I thought I had activated but hadn't.

DEBIT NOT APPROVED
Received when the card's monthly load limit had been reached.

TENDER NOT ALLOWED
Card was incorrectly read, or wrong PIN entered.

HOST TIMEOUT
Connection problems. The GC may be drained but the transaction should reverse itself, and funds will become available again. Try again later.


Using Serve
For online bill pay
  • You can pay the credit card that you used to buy VRs/GCs
  • Error 1302 means that you have 1 pending payment the same amount as the one you just submitted. For example, 1000 bill pay to sapphire preferred from Friday and then on Saturday you submit another bill pay for 1000 to sapphire preferred, you will get this error.
  • Tip: if using online bill pay to the same place multiple times, vary your amounts by $0.01 to make it easier to track since your confirmation number does not match the tracking number on your credit card statement



For bank transfers
Under Settings --> Funding & Transfers --> Bank & Cards --> U.S. Bank Account, you can add your bank info and transfer funds from your Serve card directly to your bank. The bank account must be verified, either by the standard "deposit 2 small sums into your account, such as $0.23 & $0.42" method, or doing an "instant verification" by actually logging into your bank account while still logged into Serve.
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Old Sep 11, 2013, 7:41 am
  #946  
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
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Originally Posted by rionio77
I have been having problems with my Serve card and I cannot fund my card because of technical issues with my card/website. I'm thinking of switching to BlueBird. I understand you can load $200/day $1k/mo with Serve. Can you load Bluebird with the same credit card limits as well?
BB does not allow you to load with CC. I was able to load my Serve with $200 yesterday with my US Bank Club Carlson Visa lastnight.
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Old Sep 12, 2013, 6:08 pm
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Can serve card be loaded at walmart using debit function ?
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Old Sep 17, 2013, 1:55 am
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I am not able to load $200 to serve with my BOA Virgin Atlantic Credit Card today. It says technical issue/error and requires me to call some number. Does anyone have the same problem.
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Old Sep 18, 2013, 10:11 am
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Originally Posted by outthemirror
I am not able to load $200 to serve with my BOA Virgin Atlantic Credit Card today. It says technical issue/error and requires me to call some number. Does anyone have the same problem.
They seem to require some type of acct verification. It involves Serve rep conferencing you with your cc or checking bank and cofirming your address and date the acct was opened for. If your cc has not been opened for 90 days, they will require you to fax in the cover page of your cc bill. Pain in the ... and waste of time imo.
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Old Sep 18, 2013, 7:00 pm
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Originally Posted by nix7
They seem to require some type of acct verification. It involves Serve rep conferencing you with your cc or checking bank and cofirming your address and date the acct was opened for. If your cc has not been opened for 90 days, they will require you to fax in the cover page of your cc bill. Pain in the ... and waste of time imo.
Thanks for the reply. Seems to me much more painful than Bluebird.
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Old Sep 18, 2013, 7:04 pm
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Originally Posted by outthemirror
Thanks for the reply. Seems to me much more painful than Bluebird.
Not that painful. Before I closed the Serve, I had a PrePaid linked, and they wanted to verify that 90-day stuffs (due to policy changes? The PrePaid was linked for a long time...4-5 months or more). They called the PrePaid bank, and supposedly they talked themselves, then 3-way to verify my identity, etc. I got lucky not busted for linking a PrePaid.
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Old Sep 22, 2013, 10:34 pm
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Originally Posted by nix7
They seem to require some type of acct verification. It involves Serve rep conferencing you with your cc or checking bank and cofirming your address and date the acct was opened for. If your cc has not been opened for 90 days, they will require you to fax in the cover page of your cc bill. Pain in the ... and waste of time imo.
Ok, so can't link a new credit card to Serve with new CC under 90 days old.
Does anyone know if Serve also have issues with linked debit cards that are also under 90 days old?
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Old Sep 23, 2013, 10:02 am
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Originally Posted by sharka
Ok, so can't link a new credit card to Serve with new CC under 90 days old.
Does anyone know if Serve also have issues with linked debit cards that are also under 90 days old?
you can associate cc under 90 days old.. but they need to verify with your bank over phone AND have you fax in the cc bill.

not too sure about debit card.. mine is more than 90 days old.
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Old Sep 30, 2013, 5:39 pm
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I called and verified my credit cards. I have loaded $1k into my serve account using my AA credit card. I wanted to pay my mortgage using Serve but was not able to add my Wells Fargo mortgage account. It keeps saying wrong account number or zip code.

Can I use serve to pay for my mortgage and credit card bill (even the credit card I use to fund Serve)?
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Old Sep 30, 2013, 6:09 pm
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Originally Posted by macboss
I called and verified my credit cards. I have loaded $1k into my serve account using my AA credit card. I wanted to pay my mortgage using Serve but was not able to add my Wells Fargo mortgage account. It keeps saying wrong account number or zip code.

Can I use serve to pay for my mortgage and credit card bill (even the credit card I use to fund Serve)?
You can manually add as that's what I had to do with my auto lease company although I saw it on the list. I had issues adding account because of the same error you received so I added it manually and they received payment. Another way is to add your address but make payable to your mortage company and you will receive a check which then you can mail out.

I would not recommend paying off the same cc bill you are funding Serve with.
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Old Sep 30, 2013, 7:20 pm
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Originally Posted by macboss
I called and verified my credit cards. I have loaded $1k into my serve account using my AA credit card. I wanted to pay my mortgage using Serve but was not able to add my Wells Fargo mortgage account. It keeps saying wrong account number or zip code.

Can I use serve to pay for my mortgage and credit card bill (even the credit card I use to fund Serve)?
You have to use the zip code of the mortgage company located on your mortgage paperwork. Not your own zip code, but wherever you'd send the check to.
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Old Oct 2, 2013, 1:46 pm
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Originally Posted by nix7
They seem to require some type of acct verification. It involves Serve rep conferencing you with your cc or checking bank and cofirming your address and date the acct was opened for. If your cc has not been opened for 90 days, they will require you to fax in the cover page of your cc bill. Pain in the ... and waste of time imo.
The thing with Serve is it is very much a YMMV situation - I have had one credit card linked to Serve for over a year - sometimes it works with no problems, other times I get the error message.

Today I wanted to use a new credit card (United) which I have only received yesterday.First, I delete the existing credit card, as you can now have only ONE credit card linked to Serve. Put in the NEW card details, and then the default billing address Serve entered, was slightly different than the way Chase prints it on my statements - so I amended it, so that the address was EXACTLY the same format as Chase. Press submit and card is added

So I decide let's try and see if this works - expecting it will not, and I will have to fax info as stated above. Limit is $200 per day, so I do $199 - and viola !! The funds are added

It's only $1000 a month - but assuming I can do $200 x 4 more times this month (limit is $1000 per month), then fund my debit card with another $1000, then fund Serve via debit card (also $1000 per month) - then use Serve BILLPAY function to pay $2000 of other credit card bills.

This would take care of $6000 spending requirement over the next 3 months, without having to get out of my chair.

So while Serve is no where near as good as the Bird - if you live in NY and dont have Walmart, still can be a useful tool in MS for minimum requirements.
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Old Oct 2, 2013, 3:03 pm
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Originally Posted by forextrader
The thing with Serve is it is very much a YMMV situation - I have had one credit card linked to Serve for over a year - sometimes it works with no problems, other times I get the error message.

Today I wanted to use a new credit card (United) which I have only received yesterday.First, I delete the existing credit card, as you can now have only ONE credit card linked to Serve. Put in the NEW card details, and then the default billing address Serve entered, was slightly different than the way Chase prints it on my statements - so I amended it, so that the address was EXACTLY the same format as Chase. Press submit and card is added

So I decide let's try and see if this works - expecting it will not, and I will have to fax info as stated above. Limit is $200 per day, so I do $199 - and viola !! The funds are added

It's only $1000 a month - but assuming I can do $200 x 4 more times this month (limit is $1000 per month), then fund my debit card with another $1000, then fund Serve via debit card (also $1000 per month) - then use Serve BILLPAY function to pay $2000 of other credit card bills.

This would take care of $6000 spending requirement over the next 3 months, without having to get out of my chair.

So while Serve is no where near as good as the Bird - if you live in NY and dont have Walmart, still can be a useful tool in MS for minimum requirements.

don't be surprised the 2nd time you load using that CC you get the message to call in.
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Old Oct 4, 2013, 7:07 am
  #959  
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
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what are some debit card options that can be used with Serve? I'm currently maxing out 1000 on credit card and am looking to take advantage the debit card load limit as well.
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Old Oct 5, 2013, 10:16 am
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Originally Posted by nix7
don't be surprised the 2nd time you load using that CC you get the message to call in.
No issues at all with a new credit card - have loaded 4 days in a row - just under $800.
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