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It's a literacy test that's easy to pass.

This is the Serve thread. Post questions or information concerning other topics in the appropriate threads elsewhere in this forum.

For additional information on using prepaid debit cards, see PIN available now for Visa/MC prepaid debit cards.

Mentions of Softcard (formerly ISIS) are purely incidental to setting up and using Serve/Softcard. Softcard does not hold money, and you cannot load to it.


You cannot make an ACH pull from Serve. The direct deposit account and routing numbers are for deposits only.

https://www.serve.com/#/add-cash

If your card doesn't say "debit" on the front, it isn't a debit card.


Loads at 7-11 and CVS are cash only. Debit cards are NOT allowed.

Loads at Walmart have been confirmed with debit cards. Self checkout does not work for loading Serve. Many Walmart stores are enforcing a rule against the use of prepaid debit cards when loading, even though the register and the MCE do not enforce. Do not make your prepaid debit cards visible. Show them a bank debit card if asked, then discreetly use your prepaid card when asked to swipe. Otherwise, you may be asked by management to never visit the MC (Walmart Money Center) again to load.

Debit loading at Family Dollar appears to be limited to $500 per day per store total (not per person or per account). Whoever gets there first gets the load for the day. Troubleshooting loading problems at FD


Normal Serve
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $7k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

Serve/Softcard Check if your phone/network is compatible
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $8k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

The SD card in the iPhone case used for Softcard is account specific. Once an account has been registered to a card, it cannot be used for another.

Temp Serve
You can only load a maximum of $500/day, $1000/month on a temporary card. Once you get your permanent card, then you can load more. The initial $500 when you purchase the temp card doesn't count against the $5,000/month load limit.


Online Credit Card Loads
Only one card can be linked at a time.

As of 10/09/14, coding of credit card loads changed. In general, Mastercard and American Express cards post as before; see below for information on point earning. Visa cards transact as a cash advance and, therefore, require available CA limit; although most cards post as a purchase.

The Chase Ink Bold is a charge card and has no cash advance ability.

Treated as purchase, earns cashback/points/miles:
  • Bank of America (FIA) (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Barclaycard (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Capital One (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Chase (MasterCard, Visa)
  • Citi (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Discover

Treated as purchase, but doesn't earn points/miles:
  • American Express (May count toward minimum spend)

Posts as a cash advance:
For online CC/DC loads, the name on the Serve account is supposed to match the name of the primary or joint cardholder. So using someone else's CC/DB card to load a Serve account is not allowed.

Several people have reported no problems with loading with an AU card in the Serve account holder's name. Increase your chances by making sure the AUs social security number is on file with the Credit Card. YMMV.

When adding a new card you will usually need to call Serve Account security (1-800-555-4318) for verification of the new card on the second load try. This verification usually requires uploading of a photo of your ID and the credit card. You may pre-emptively avoid the error by going to the above website, logging in, and uploading a scan of a photo ID and the card you are trying to add. You may call back to expedite approval.


Online Debit Card Loads
For online debit load, only use of bank-issued cards is allowed. The use of pre-paid debit cards (Netspend, Paypower, Univision, Paypal*, etc.) and VGC/MGC/AGCs is not allowed. While initial transactions may work, your account will eventually be flagged.


Switching to Serve or Serve/Softcard
Helpful instruction post, latest. Thanks raeneye.

Also see this thread: Switching from Serve to BlueBird - 31 day wait???

Switching to Serve/Softcard
  1. Call up Bluebird or Serve and close account. Make sure your account is at $0.00 before calling. Just close it, don't ask for a temp Serve or anything. CSR will say account is now closed and you have 30 days to change your mind should you decide to re-open it.
  2. Download the Softcard mobile app from Apple App Store or Google Play Store. If you're an iPhone user you have to buy the NFC CashWrap case from your carrier store.
  3. Launch Softcard Mobile App and create Softcard account. You'll be asked if you want to open a Serve account; Yes you do. Start the registration through Softcard mobile app for a Serve account, once you are finished you will be told you will receive an Email from Amex with your account approval. I waited a few hours and called Serve customer service like the wiki says and completed the registration.
  4. Once I got off the phone with Serve I received an email from Serve where I verified my account and email; at this point Amex Serve is open.
  5. Launch Softcard Mobile app again click add new
  6. Activate card with Softcard and select Amex Serve. Follow the instructions & you're good to add. Once this is complete a Serve Card will populate in Softcard. Must activate physical card to get full load limits. Check account status and it automatically credits to your serve account based on who you signed up with. (Verizon - $25, T-Mobile - $50, AT&T - $30 (For AT&T: Get $15 w/activation. Earn additional $15 w/account replenishment))

Switching from BB to Serve
  1. Login to BB account, bring account balance to Zero, (By Bill Pay, Send money, etc..)
  2. Call BB, tell them that you want to open a serve account and close your current BB account. after they check everything they will say something like: "Your account will be permanently closed after 31 days, you can reopen it within 31 day if you change your mind, and you can apply for your new Serve account now, just make sure use the exact same register info from BB."
  3. at this point BB is closed. next morning, goto CVS and get a temporary Serve card (only with cash), load $500, ($2.95 waived, Yeah!!)
  4. get back home, register temporary Serve online, First error: "phone number already registered, please try a different number" could be the my BB's ghost account still showing up on their system, could be my info is not match my BB's registration? i'm not really sure at this point. What I did is keep the same number but change from Cell phone to home phone. and registration went through
  5. after the register and login, second error: "We're still processing your application. Please check your email for an update"
  6. I have see people on the thread reported waiting for weeks for the same message, So, I pickup the phone and called them, ask them to speed up the process.
  7. CSR, told me that my account went to "account security protection department" transfer me to them.
  8. at account security protection department, they told me need to call back on my phone number which I registered to verify.
  9. after the call back of verification, CSR told me that my new Serve account is active now, email address verification will be send with in 5 minutes, permanent card will be received within 7-10 days.
  10. CSR also told me the I can load and spend on the temporary card, but not bill pay.

The number to call to approve your registration after closing Bluebird: Serve Account security 1-800-555-4318



Loading with debit card at Walmart register
Loads at register over $500 will sometimes trigger ID requirement. There is a limit of four swipes per transaction; this means your card plus three payments.

Training a WM cashier:
  • If the WM cashier doesn't know how to load the card, advise them to enter "70" then press "action code".
  • If you are using a temp card that doesn't have your name on it, you can swipe the card from your side of the terminal. The WM rep never has to touch any of your cards. The screen will say "enter account." That is your prompt to slide the card.
  • The terminal will ask the WM employee if you are loading in multiples of $2000. Advise them to enter "no."
  • Avoid saying gift card. Always refer to your card as a debit card.

Error Messages:
DEBIT NOT AVAILABLE
Received when I used a card I thought I had activated but hadn't.

DEBIT NOT APPROVED
Received when the card's monthly load limit had been reached.

TENDER NOT ALLOWED
Card was incorrectly read, or wrong PIN entered.

HOST TIMEOUT
Connection problems. The GC may be drained but the transaction should reverse itself, and funds will become available again. Try again later.


Using Serve
For online bill pay
  • You can pay the credit card that you used to buy VRs/GCs
  • Error 1302 means that you have 1 pending payment the same amount as the one you just submitted. For example, 1000 bill pay to sapphire preferred from Friday and then on Saturday you submit another bill pay for 1000 to sapphire preferred, you will get this error.
  • Tip: if using online bill pay to the same place multiple times, vary your amounts by $0.01 to make it easier to track since your confirmation number does not match the tracking number on your credit card statement



For bank transfers
Under Settings --> Funding & Transfers --> Bank & Cards --> U.S. Bank Account, you can add your bank info and transfer funds from your Serve card directly to your bank. The bank account must be verified, either by the standard "deposit 2 small sums into your account, such as $0.23 & $0.42" method, or doing an "instant verification" by actually logging into your bank account while still logged into Serve.
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Old May 26, 2014, 5:12 pm
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Originally Posted by jsmithj88
i tried to pay my barclay CC bill by plugging in my serve acct info as my bank source
initially, i did a 5$ trial payment which cleared so i went to a 1k payment
both were eventually refunded and my acct was locked
i paid via my real bank and called in once my payment clear
the rep was able to lift the lock but my available credit wouldnt update until 10 days

has any1 had success paying barclay cc FROM serve via online BP
or is using the live check method the way to go?
lol. Oh boy.
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Old May 26, 2014, 6:56 pm
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Originally Posted by f0xx
lol. Oh boy.
LOL. Now see I expected you to have one your "f0xx-y" remarks there but you let me down.
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Old May 27, 2014, 1:41 am
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Is there a way to remove an Isis Serve card from your Isis wallet? Not seeing a clear cut way to do it from searching around. Trying to avoid having to buy and return an iPhone Isis case to sign up for multiple new Isis Serve cards with some family member's SSNs that have never had a Serve card.
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Old May 27, 2014, 4:37 am
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Originally Posted by payeco
Is there a way to remove an Isis Serve card from your Isis wallet? Not seeing a clear cut way to do it from searching around. Trying to avoid having to buy and return an iPhone Isis case to sign up for multiple new Isis Serve cards with some family member's SSNs that have never had a Serve card.
Are you trying to use one case for multiple iphones by removing the isis card each time? I don't think it's possible. I was told that the chip in the isis case gets programmed with your phone's info, or something to that effect.
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Old May 27, 2014, 8:25 am
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Originally Posted by gw14
She was misinformed also. Most of my loads were at the registers, a few at the money center. Usually like to buy MO at the money center and do the loads at the register.
I tried again yesterday with a nice cashier at regular register, no problem to loads 2 x 500 using two separate transactions. thanks!
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Old May 27, 2014, 8:43 am
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Are you able to deposit money orders to serve using the check capture feature?
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Old May 27, 2014, 9:01 am
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tried searching but did not see an answer, so apologies if this has already been discussed:

i have an android phone and SO has an iphone. i currently have serve w/ isis and she currently has no serve account (closed her bluebird a month ago).

since we're on a family plan, i was thinking we could just temporarily switch our lines between the two phones on the verizon website, then she could open a serve w/ isis account using the android phone and her phone number/info, then once the account is open we could switch back and we would both have serve accounts with higher CC limits (she obviously would no longer have the Isis app since she'll be on an iphone, so i realize she won't be able to play the $1x50 game)

has anyone else done this? any hitches i'm not thinking of? and would doing a swap and swap back screw up our apps, media, contacts etc in some way i'm not thinking of?
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Old May 27, 2014, 9:07 am
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Originally Posted by cdancer20
LOL. Now see I expected you to have one your "f0xx-y" remarks there but you let me down.
I have to be a good boy or I get put in time out.

Originally Posted by dublin487
tried searching but did not see an answer, so apologies if this has already been discussed:

i have an android phone and SO has an iphone. i currently have serve w/ isis and she currently has no serve account (closed her bluebird a month ago).

since we're on a family plan, i was thinking we could just temporarily switch our lines between the two phones on the verizon website, then she could open a serve w/ isis account using the android phone and her phone number/info, then once the account is open we could switch back and we would both have serve accounts with higher CC limits (she obviously would no longer have the Isis app since she'll be on an iphone, so i realize she won't be able to play the $1x50 game)

has anyone else done this? any hitches i'm not thinking of? and would doing a swap and swap back screw up our apps, media, contacts etc in some way i'm not thinking of?
I know with AT&T it's the secureSIM where the information is stored. Not sure how this will work if you have a non-SIM VZW phone.
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Old May 27, 2014, 9:26 am
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Originally Posted by Peridot83
Are you able to deposit money orders to serve using the check capture feature?
Disallowed by ToS.
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Old May 27, 2014, 11:35 am
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Originally Posted by cdancer20
This is not true. You may see if it after the 3rd or 4th load.
I've done 3 different loads ($200, $200, $500) with 2 different credit cards and no verification call yet. But these have been spaced out a few days in between...not sure if that makes any difference. But I expect that 3-way call at any point.
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Old May 27, 2014, 12:07 pm
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Originally Posted by fletch512
Are you trying to use one case for multiple iphones by removing the isis card each time? I don't think it's possible. I was told that the chip in the isis case gets programmed with your phone's info, or something to that effect.
No, I'm trying to remove the Isis Serve card I signed up for from my Isis wallet. Then I can change the email address of my Isis account and register another.

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Old May 27, 2014, 12:29 pm
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Originally Posted by cdancer20
This is not true. You may see if it after the 3rd or 4th load.
Originally Posted by unkinected
I've done 3 different loads ($200, $200, $500) with 2 different credit cards and no verification call yet. But these have been spaced out a few days in between...not sure if that makes any difference. But I expect that 3-way call at any point.
Actually, you'll see it if they're not able to verify it in the background without you knowing.

Like what happened in my case, and what she explained to me. They will try to verify it in the background, but if they're unable to do so. You end up having to call in.

This happened when I tried using my BUXX card. They called US Bank and tried to verify that I was a US Bank card owner. US Bank was like "uhhhh wut" and so I had to tell her it was a prepaid card lol.
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Old May 27, 2014, 12:34 pm
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Originally Posted by unkinected
I've done 3 different loads ($200, $200, $500) with 2 different credit cards and no verification call yet. But these have been spaced out a few days in between...not sure if that makes any difference. But I expect that 3-way call at any point.
Honestly I like to get the verification process out of the way ASAP and they can leave me alone. No point of trying to figure out the amounts to beat around the verification bush. Eventually it will block you and you will have to verify your CC/DCs anyways. I just hit it hard with 2 x $200 charges for both my DC/CC right away and get the verification process over with. Ideally it would be nice if both your DC/CC both needed verification at the same time so you just have to make 1 call and kill 2 birds with 1 stone.
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Old May 27, 2014, 12:51 pm
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Originally Posted by sechs
I'm trying to find Coke vending machines that take Isis. This website is showing both "vending" and "Coca-Cola" locations.

Does anyone know the difference, if any, between these two?
I know the coke machines in my area are:
1) Usually in a Walmart or some other store
2) In schools or universities
3) The map function in ISIS is waaay off. Have to try and verify with Google maps or something.

The machines in Walmart usually sell the cans fro $1.00 so they are totally free. I pick up a few each time I do a "Action Code 70" run on my Serve. Some machines are fast but others are too slow to be wasting my time with approval, vending, completing transaction, etc.
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Old May 27, 2014, 3:40 pm
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FYI: I was able to open a Serve account immediately after closing my Bluebird by entering all of the same info. At first it gave me an error when entering my cell phone number that I used prior, but when I designated it as an "other" number rather than a "cellular" number, it went through.
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