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This is the Serve thread. Post questions or information concerning other topics in the appropriate threads elsewhere in this forum.

For additional information on using prepaid debit cards, see PIN available now for Visa/MC prepaid debit cards.

Mentions of Softcard (formerly ISIS) are purely incidental to setting up and using Serve/Softcard. Softcard does not hold money, and you cannot load to it.


You cannot make an ACH pull from Serve. The direct deposit account and routing numbers are for deposits only.

https://www.serve.com/#/add-cash

If your card doesn't say "debit" on the front, it isn't a debit card.


Loads at 7-11 and CVS are cash only. Debit cards are NOT allowed.

Loads at Walmart have been confirmed with debit cards. Self checkout does not work for loading Serve. Many Walmart stores are enforcing a rule against the use of prepaid debit cards when loading, even though the register and the MCE do not enforce. Do not make your prepaid debit cards visible. Show them a bank debit card if asked, then discreetly use your prepaid card when asked to swipe. Otherwise, you may be asked by management to never visit the MC (Walmart Money Center) again to load.

Debit loading at Family Dollar appears to be limited to $500 per day per store total (not per person or per account). Whoever gets there first gets the load for the day. Troubleshooting loading problems at FD


Normal Serve
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $7k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

Serve/Softcard Check if your phone/network is compatible
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $8k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

The SD card in the iPhone case used for Softcard is account specific. Once an account has been registered to a card, it cannot be used for another.

Temp Serve
You can only load a maximum of $500/day, $1000/month on a temporary card. Once you get your permanent card, then you can load more. The initial $500 when you purchase the temp card doesn't count against the $5,000/month load limit.


Online Credit Card Loads
Only one card can be linked at a time.

As of 10/09/14, coding of credit card loads changed. In general, Mastercard and American Express cards post as before; see below for information on point earning. Visa cards transact as a cash advance and, therefore, require available CA limit; although most cards post as a purchase.

The Chase Ink Bold is a charge card and has no cash advance ability.

Treated as purchase, earns cashback/points/miles:
  • Bank of America (FIA) (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Barclaycard (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Capital One (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Chase (MasterCard, Visa)
  • Citi (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Discover

Treated as purchase, but doesn't earn points/miles:
  • American Express (May count toward minimum spend)

Posts as a cash advance:
For online CC/DC loads, the name on the Serve account is supposed to match the name of the primary or joint cardholder. So using someone else's CC/DB card to load a Serve account is not allowed.

Several people have reported no problems with loading with an AU card in the Serve account holder's name. Increase your chances by making sure the AUs social security number is on file with the Credit Card. YMMV.

When adding a new card you will usually need to call Serve Account security (1-800-555-4318) for verification of the new card on the second load try. This verification usually requires uploading of a photo of your ID and the credit card. You may pre-emptively avoid the error by going to the above website, logging in, and uploading a scan of a photo ID and the card you are trying to add. You may call back to expedite approval.


Online Debit Card Loads
For online debit load, only use of bank-issued cards is allowed. The use of pre-paid debit cards (Netspend, Paypower, Univision, Paypal*, etc.) and VGC/MGC/AGCs is not allowed. While initial transactions may work, your account will eventually be flagged.


Switching to Serve or Serve/Softcard
Helpful instruction post, latest. Thanks raeneye.

Also see this thread: Switching from Serve to BlueBird - 31 day wait???

Switching to Serve/Softcard
  1. Call up Bluebird or Serve and close account. Make sure your account is at $0.00 before calling. Just close it, don't ask for a temp Serve or anything. CSR will say account is now closed and you have 30 days to change your mind should you decide to re-open it.
  2. Download the Softcard mobile app from Apple App Store or Google Play Store. If you're an iPhone user you have to buy the NFC CashWrap case from your carrier store.
  3. Launch Softcard Mobile App and create Softcard account. You'll be asked if you want to open a Serve account; Yes you do. Start the registration through Softcard mobile app for a Serve account, once you are finished you will be told you will receive an Email from Amex with your account approval. I waited a few hours and called Serve customer service like the wiki says and completed the registration.
  4. Once I got off the phone with Serve I received an email from Serve where I verified my account and email; at this point Amex Serve is open.
  5. Launch Softcard Mobile app again click add new
  6. Activate card with Softcard and select Amex Serve. Follow the instructions & you're good to add. Once this is complete a Serve Card will populate in Softcard. Must activate physical card to get full load limits. Check account status and it automatically credits to your serve account based on who you signed up with. (Verizon - $25, T-Mobile - $50, AT&T - $30 (For AT&T: Get $15 w/activation. Earn additional $15 w/account replenishment))

Switching from BB to Serve
  1. Login to BB account, bring account balance to Zero, (By Bill Pay, Send money, etc..)
  2. Call BB, tell them that you want to open a serve account and close your current BB account. after they check everything they will say something like: "Your account will be permanently closed after 31 days, you can reopen it within 31 day if you change your mind, and you can apply for your new Serve account now, just make sure use the exact same register info from BB."
  3. at this point BB is closed. next morning, goto CVS and get a temporary Serve card (only with cash), load $500, ($2.95 waived, Yeah!!)
  4. get back home, register temporary Serve online, First error: "phone number already registered, please try a different number" could be the my BB's ghost account still showing up on their system, could be my info is not match my BB's registration? i'm not really sure at this point. What I did is keep the same number but change from Cell phone to home phone. and registration went through
  5. after the register and login, second error: "We're still processing your application. Please check your email for an update"
  6. I have see people on the thread reported waiting for weeks for the same message, So, I pickup the phone and called them, ask them to speed up the process.
  7. CSR, told me that my account went to "account security protection department" transfer me to them.
  8. at account security protection department, they told me need to call back on my phone number which I registered to verify.
  9. after the call back of verification, CSR told me that my new Serve account is active now, email address verification will be send with in 5 minutes, permanent card will be received within 7-10 days.
  10. CSR also told me the I can load and spend on the temporary card, but not bill pay.

The number to call to approve your registration after closing Bluebird: Serve Account security 1-800-555-4318



Loading with debit card at Walmart register
Loads at register over $500 will sometimes trigger ID requirement. There is a limit of four swipes per transaction; this means your card plus three payments.

Training a WM cashier:
  • If the WM cashier doesn't know how to load the card, advise them to enter "70" then press "action code".
  • If you are using a temp card that doesn't have your name on it, you can swipe the card from your side of the terminal. The WM rep never has to touch any of your cards. The screen will say "enter account." That is your prompt to slide the card.
  • The terminal will ask the WM employee if you are loading in multiples of $2000. Advise them to enter "no."
  • Avoid saying gift card. Always refer to your card as a debit card.

Error Messages:
DEBIT NOT AVAILABLE
Received when I used a card I thought I had activated but hadn't.

DEBIT NOT APPROVED
Received when the card's monthly load limit had been reached.

TENDER NOT ALLOWED
Card was incorrectly read, or wrong PIN entered.

HOST TIMEOUT
Connection problems. The GC may be drained but the transaction should reverse itself, and funds will become available again. Try again later.


Using Serve
For online bill pay
  • You can pay the credit card that you used to buy VRs/GCs
  • Error 1302 means that you have 1 pending payment the same amount as the one you just submitted. For example, 1000 bill pay to sapphire preferred from Friday and then on Saturday you submit another bill pay for 1000 to sapphire preferred, you will get this error.
  • Tip: if using online bill pay to the same place multiple times, vary your amounts by $0.01 to make it easier to track since your confirmation number does not match the tracking number on your credit card statement



For bank transfers
Under Settings --> Funding & Transfers --> Bank & Cards --> U.S. Bank Account, you can add your bank info and transfer funds from your Serve card directly to your bank. The bank account must be verified, either by the standard "deposit 2 small sums into your account, such as $0.23 & $0.42" method, or doing an "instant verification" by actually logging into your bank account while still logged into Serve.
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Old May 29, 2014, 8:24 am
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Originally Posted by mh1361
I've seen people post that the "day" for serve loads at Walmart resets at 11 EDT, but has anyone tested that? Has anyone loaded 1k at 10:55pm and then another 1k at 11:05pm on the same account? I'd be nice to save a trip to walmart.
Test it out for yourself. For me, I have loaded 1K at 8PM my time (west coast) and then 9:05 my time another 1K and that has worked well for a long time now. Both BB and serve
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Old May 29, 2014, 8:25 am
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Originally Posted by cdancer20
I have sent money to and from other Serve/BB accts. Not often but sometimes in huge amounts. No idea if you should make a habit of it.

However, do you HAVE to send money between accts each month? Remember that you can pay any bill/credit card from any acct.

Count me as a lucky person but I don't have a whole lot of bills so bill pay for me is limited. Don't own a house but rent apt and landlord only takes cash or checks. No car payments as I live in NYC and nowhere to park (bus or subway for me). So I load more into my Serve acct than what bill pay could take out. Also living in NYC means no nearby WM.
I guess I could bill pay my credit card bills but that would mean paying off the same CC that I use to fund my Serve acct, which some say is not advisable.

So thinking of using Serve like Amazon payment and send to my wife's acct or brothers acct and they could always send it back to me using Amazon payments. Just looking for workable options to unload.
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Old May 29, 2014, 8:26 am
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Originally Posted by tomcanada22
Count me as a lucky person but I don't have a whole lot of bills so bill pay for me is limited. Don't own a house but rent apt and landlord only takes cash or checks. No car payments as I live in NYC and nowhere to park (bus or subway for me). So I load more into my Serve acct than what bill pay could take out. Also living in NYC means no nearby WM.
I guess I could bill pay my credit card bills but that would mean paying off the same CC that I use to fund my Serve acct, which some say is not advisable.

So thinking of using Serve like Amazon payment and send to my wife's acct or brothers acct and they could always send it back to me using Amazon payments. Just looking for workable options to unload.
So just cut yourself a check with Billpay
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Old May 29, 2014, 8:49 am
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Originally Posted by tomcanada22
Count me as a lucky person but I don't have a whole lot of bills so bill pay for me is limited. Don't own a house but rent apt and landlord only takes cash or checks.

If you use billpay to pay your landlord, they just get a check in the mail. You can even send the check to yourself and hand deliver it. Of course, if they are "old fashioned" they might not like that the check isn't a regular hand-written check.
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Old May 29, 2014, 8:59 am
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Originally Posted by tomcanada22
Count me as a lucky person but I don't have a whole lot of bills so bill pay for me is limited. Don't own a house but rent apt and landlord only takes cash or checks. No car payments as I live in NYC and nowhere to park (bus or subway for me). So I load more into my Serve acct than what bill pay could take out. Also living in NYC means no nearby WM.
I guess I could bill pay my credit card bills but that would mean paying off the same CC that I use to fund my Serve acct, which some say is not advisable.

So thinking of using Serve like Amazon payment and send to my wife's acct or brothers acct and they could always send it back to me using Amazon payments. Just looking for workable options to unload.
Probably about 90+% of the people on this thread use Serve to directly pay back the same credit card that they used to load it via the old-CVS days or the card used to buy the GCs. Probably AT least 50% of us, don't have $5k+ bills each month either. Don't overcomplicate things. Just pay your CC bills.
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Old May 29, 2014, 9:07 am
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Originally Posted by cdancer20
Probably about 90+% of the people on this thread use Serve to directly pay back the same credit card that they used to load it via the old-CVS days or the card used to buy the GCs. Probably AT least 50% of us, don't have $5k+ bills each month either. Don't overcomplicate things. Just pay your CC bills.
Not defending him, but I think hes talking about the card he used to load serve online, which Ive also heard is inadvisable. Given that I MS with multiple cards, I never have a problem like this, but I suppose if you only have one card or do things small scale, then maybe....
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Old May 29, 2014, 9:19 am
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Originally Posted by raccah
Test it out for yourself. For me, I have loaded 1K at 8PM my time (west coast) and then 9:05 my time another 1K and that has worked well for a long time now. Both BB and serve
I plan to test it out Saturday night. And I'll be using 2 Serve cards, so I'll have to use 8 OVs total, fun. Worth it for the Citi exec though.
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Old May 29, 2014, 9:22 am
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Originally Posted by hamokmonky
Not defending him, but I think hes talking about the card he used to load serve online, which Ive also heard is inadvisable. Given that I MS with multiple cards, I never have a problem like this, but I suppose if you only have one card or do things small scale, then maybe....
I think a lot of people do that (myself included). Generally I won't load $200, and then immediately make a $200 payment. I might wait until I've made 3 loads, then send 2 bills for like $335 and $265, or something, but I'm sure people just load $200 and send a bill for $200 right afterwards too.
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Old May 29, 2014, 9:47 am
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Originally Posted by aarif1
If you use billpay to pay your landlord, they just get a check in the mail. You can even send the check to yourself and hand deliver it. Of course, if they are "old fashioned" they might not like that the check isn't a regular hand-written check.

Yeah, landlord is old fashion and only likes a check printed with all my name, address etc and sign by me. I once tried to give him a MO but didn't accept that either.
So he only accepts personal check or cash.
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Old May 29, 2014, 9:56 am
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Originally Posted by hamokmonky
Not defending him, but I think hes talking about the card he used to load serve online, which Ive also heard is inadvisable. Given that I MS with multiple cards, I never have a problem like this, but I suppose if you only have one card or do things small scale, then maybe....
Haha, thanks for defending me. Yes, this is exactly what I'm doing. Using 1 CC to load into Serve online at $200/transaction. And I've read in the past maybe 9 mths ago that someone got shut down for paying the same CC that funded the Serve load. That's why I was being cautious. But if most think it's ok to do so then maybe serve have relaxed that CC bill pay rule and I,ll give it a shot.
Thanks again.
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Old May 29, 2014, 9:58 am
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Originally Posted by tomcanada22
Yeah, landlord is old fashion and only likes a check printed with all my name, address etc and sign by me. I once tried to give him a MO but didn't accept that either.
So he only accepts personal check or cash.
If I was your landlord I wouldn't accept MOs either. MOs have a bad connotation of scam so I would only accept check or cash. Even if I knew you were a MSer I still wouldn't allow MOs just because it just puts more pressure on me every time I have to deposit them in the bank. It won't raise suspicion if I deposit a rent check instead of rent MO. Just think about it if you were in their situation, would you accept MO as rent payment?
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Old May 29, 2014, 10:03 am
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Originally Posted by ttlmmky
So just cut yourself a check with Billpay

Hmm, didn't know I could do that. So I could use bill pay to cut a check to anyone I want ?
This could work if I could have Serve bill pay make out checks to other family members and they could always pay me back in cash or they could always cut me a check also using bill pay. Can I assume this is possible and if it is, do they impose any fees for cutting a check to someone else?

Thanks again
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Old May 29, 2014, 10:11 am
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Originally Posted by ericdabbs
If I was your landlord I wouldn't accept MOs either. MOs have a bad connotation of scam so I would only accept check or cash. Even if I knew you were a MSer I still wouldn't allow MOs just because it just puts more pressure on me every time I have to deposit them in the bank. It won't raise suspicion if I deposit a rent check instead of rent MO. Just think about it if you were in their situation, would you accept MO as rent payment?

Good valid point, but being that I've been a loyal tenant with on time payments always for 10+ yrs and he could always kick me out if I did him wrong! I would hope he would have just a little more trust. But I think the real reason he won't accept a MO is because he is real old fashion and don't know what to do with it
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Old May 29, 2014, 10:13 am
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Originally Posted by ericdabbs
If I was your landlord I wouldn't accept MOs either. MOs have a bad connotation of scam so I would only accept check or cash. Even if I knew you were a MSer I still wouldn't allow MOs just because it just puts more pressure on me every time I have to deposit them in the bank. It won't raise suspicion if I deposit a rent check instead of rent MO. Just think about it if you were in their situation, would you accept MO as rent payment?
For an ongoing transaction from a person whom you know pretty well (I'm pretty sure they do credit check and maybe more background investigation when renting apartments) I don't see the problem. If the money order doesn't go through, you just have to go back to the renter. I think personal check has a higher chance of not going through, due to insufficient funds or whatever.
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Old May 29, 2014, 10:26 am
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Originally Posted by mh1361
I think a lot of people do that (myself included). Generally I won't load $200, and then immediately make a $200 payment. I might wait until I've made 3 loads, then send 2 bills for like $335 and $265, or something, but I'm sure people just load $200 and send a bill for $200 right afterwards too.
Originally Posted by tomcanada22
Haha, thanks for defending me. Yes, this is exactly what I'm doing. Using 1 CC to load into Serve online at $200/transaction. And I've read in the past maybe 9 mths ago that someone got shut down for paying the same CC that funded the Serve load. That's why I was being cautious. But if most think it's ok to do so then maybe serve have relaxed that CC bill pay rule and I,ll give it a shot.
Thanks again.
I questioned that which is why I didn't list is a payment method (ie. load via CVS or cc used to purchase GCs.). However, I pay my credit card from my Serve which is the same that I use to load online. However, it's never load $1500, pay $1500. It's some other odd amount mixed in with other credit card payments. If you plan to only do the online loading, then sure you can possibly be timid of it. However, is this the only credit card that you ever you use? Does your wife/family member use the same card on their acct (as an AU)? If not and you are worried, then you pay your family members credit card bill and they pay yours.

Also you say your landlord only takes personal check or cash and denied a MO. Have you ever asked him about taking a check written directly from your bank? He may be open to that since it's coming straight from the bank who knows you have(had) the money to cover it. (Of course in the case of Serve, they take the money out immediately.)
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