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Read the wiki before posting a question.
It's a literacy test that's easy to pass.

This is the Serve thread. Post questions or information concerning other topics in the appropriate threads elsewhere in this forum.

For additional information on using prepaid debit cards, see PIN available now for Visa/MC prepaid debit cards.

Mentions of Softcard (formerly ISIS) are purely incidental to setting up and using Serve/Softcard. Softcard does not hold money, and you cannot load to it.


You cannot make an ACH pull from Serve. The direct deposit account and routing numbers are for deposits only.

https://www.serve.com/#/add-cash

If your card doesn't say "debit" on the front, it isn't a debit card.


Loads at 7-11 and CVS are cash only. Debit cards are NOT allowed.

Loads at Walmart have been confirmed with debit cards. Self checkout does not work for loading Serve. Many Walmart stores are enforcing a rule against the use of prepaid debit cards when loading, even though the register and the MCE do not enforce. Do not make your prepaid debit cards visible. Show them a bank debit card if asked, then discreetly use your prepaid card when asked to swipe. Otherwise, you may be asked by management to never visit the MC (Walmart Money Center) again to load.

Debit loading at Family Dollar appears to be limited to $500 per day per store total (not per person or per account). Whoever gets there first gets the load for the day. Troubleshooting loading problems at FD


Normal Serve
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $7k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

Serve/Softcard Check if your phone/network is compatible
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $8k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

The SD card in the iPhone case used for Softcard is account specific. Once an account has been registered to a card, it cannot be used for another.

Temp Serve
You can only load a maximum of $500/day, $1000/month on a temporary card. Once you get your permanent card, then you can load more. The initial $500 when you purchase the temp card doesn't count against the $5,000/month load limit.


Online Credit Card Loads
Only one card can be linked at a time.

As of 10/09/14, coding of credit card loads changed. In general, Mastercard and American Express cards post as before; see below for information on point earning. Visa cards transact as a cash advance and, therefore, require available CA limit; although most cards post as a purchase.

The Chase Ink Bold is a charge card and has no cash advance ability.

Treated as purchase, earns cashback/points/miles:
  • Bank of America (FIA) (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Barclaycard (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Capital One (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Chase (MasterCard, Visa)
  • Citi (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Discover

Treated as purchase, but doesn't earn points/miles:
  • American Express (May count toward minimum spend)

Posts as a cash advance:
For online CC/DC loads, the name on the Serve account is supposed to match the name of the primary or joint cardholder. So using someone else's CC/DB card to load a Serve account is not allowed.

Several people have reported no problems with loading with an AU card in the Serve account holder's name. Increase your chances by making sure the AUs social security number is on file with the Credit Card. YMMV.

When adding a new card you will usually need to call Serve Account security (1-800-555-4318) for verification of the new card on the second load try. This verification usually requires uploading of a photo of your ID and the credit card. You may pre-emptively avoid the error by going to the above website, logging in, and uploading a scan of a photo ID and the card you are trying to add. You may call back to expedite approval.


Online Debit Card Loads
For online debit load, only use of bank-issued cards is allowed. The use of pre-paid debit cards (Netspend, Paypower, Univision, Paypal*, etc.) and VGC/MGC/AGCs is not allowed. While initial transactions may work, your account will eventually be flagged.


Switching to Serve or Serve/Softcard
Helpful instruction post, latest. Thanks raeneye.

Also see this thread: Switching from Serve to BlueBird - 31 day wait???

Switching to Serve/Softcard
  1. Call up Bluebird or Serve and close account. Make sure your account is at $0.00 before calling. Just close it, don't ask for a temp Serve or anything. CSR will say account is now closed and you have 30 days to change your mind should you decide to re-open it.
  2. Download the Softcard mobile app from Apple App Store or Google Play Store. If you're an iPhone user you have to buy the NFC CashWrap case from your carrier store.
  3. Launch Softcard Mobile App and create Softcard account. You'll be asked if you want to open a Serve account; Yes you do. Start the registration through Softcard mobile app for a Serve account, once you are finished you will be told you will receive an Email from Amex with your account approval. I waited a few hours and called Serve customer service like the wiki says and completed the registration.
  4. Once I got off the phone with Serve I received an email from Serve where I verified my account and email; at this point Amex Serve is open.
  5. Launch Softcard Mobile app again click add new
  6. Activate card with Softcard and select Amex Serve. Follow the instructions & you're good to add. Once this is complete a Serve Card will populate in Softcard. Must activate physical card to get full load limits. Check account status and it automatically credits to your serve account based on who you signed up with. (Verizon - $25, T-Mobile - $50, AT&T - $30 (For AT&T: Get $15 w/activation. Earn additional $15 w/account replenishment))

Switching from BB to Serve
  1. Login to BB account, bring account balance to Zero, (By Bill Pay, Send money, etc..)
  2. Call BB, tell them that you want to open a serve account and close your current BB account. after they check everything they will say something like: "Your account will be permanently closed after 31 days, you can reopen it within 31 day if you change your mind, and you can apply for your new Serve account now, just make sure use the exact same register info from BB."
  3. at this point BB is closed. next morning, goto CVS and get a temporary Serve card (only with cash), load $500, ($2.95 waived, Yeah!!)
  4. get back home, register temporary Serve online, First error: "phone number already registered, please try a different number" could be the my BB's ghost account still showing up on their system, could be my info is not match my BB's registration? i'm not really sure at this point. What I did is keep the same number but change from Cell phone to home phone. and registration went through
  5. after the register and login, second error: "We're still processing your application. Please check your email for an update"
  6. I have see people on the thread reported waiting for weeks for the same message, So, I pickup the phone and called them, ask them to speed up the process.
  7. CSR, told me that my account went to "account security protection department" transfer me to them.
  8. at account security protection department, they told me need to call back on my phone number which I registered to verify.
  9. after the call back of verification, CSR told me that my new Serve account is active now, email address verification will be send with in 5 minutes, permanent card will be received within 7-10 days.
  10. CSR also told me the I can load and spend on the temporary card, but not bill pay.

The number to call to approve your registration after closing Bluebird: Serve Account security 1-800-555-4318



Loading with debit card at Walmart register
Loads at register over $500 will sometimes trigger ID requirement. There is a limit of four swipes per transaction; this means your card plus three payments.

Training a WM cashier:
  • If the WM cashier doesn't know how to load the card, advise them to enter "70" then press "action code".
  • If you are using a temp card that doesn't have your name on it, you can swipe the card from your side of the terminal. The WM rep never has to touch any of your cards. The screen will say "enter account." That is your prompt to slide the card.
  • The terminal will ask the WM employee if you are loading in multiples of $2000. Advise them to enter "no."
  • Avoid saying gift card. Always refer to your card as a debit card.

Error Messages:
DEBIT NOT AVAILABLE
Received when I used a card I thought I had activated but hadn't.

DEBIT NOT APPROVED
Received when the card's monthly load limit had been reached.

TENDER NOT ALLOWED
Card was incorrectly read, or wrong PIN entered.

HOST TIMEOUT
Connection problems. The GC may be drained but the transaction should reverse itself, and funds will become available again. Try again later.


Using Serve
For online bill pay
  • You can pay the credit card that you used to buy VRs/GCs
  • Error 1302 means that you have 1 pending payment the same amount as the one you just submitted. For example, 1000 bill pay to sapphire preferred from Friday and then on Saturday you submit another bill pay for 1000 to sapphire preferred, you will get this error.
  • Tip: if using online bill pay to the same place multiple times, vary your amounts by $0.01 to make it easier to track since your confirmation number does not match the tracking number on your credit card statement



For bank transfers
Under Settings --> Funding & Transfers --> Bank & Cards --> U.S. Bank Account, you can add your bank info and transfer funds from your Serve card directly to your bank. The bank account must be verified, either by the standard "deposit 2 small sums into your account, such as $0.23 & $0.42" method, or doing an "instant verification" by actually logging into your bank account while still logged into Serve.
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Old Apr 23, 2014, 1:11 pm
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Does Bluebird send you an email stating your account is closed? I have yet to receive anything and its been a couple hours. Looking to switch back to Serve ASAP.
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Old Apr 23, 2014, 1:45 pm
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Thank you

Thanks for the help. Appreciate it.

Originally Posted by cdancer20
You have to go through the "Add a card" option. You can either choose to add Serve or choose the "add other card" option. That will take you to the screen to either sign up or create new Serve acct.
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Old Apr 23, 2014, 2:08 pm
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Originally Posted by cdancer20
Well now I feel stupid for overbuying VRs this months lol (and putting myself into having to float more money that I prefer). Oh well. *shrug* That's the game.
Ditto. I'm still floating $25k in VRs. Just one week to go... At least I kept my 3 Serve cards open instead of switching to BB.
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Old Apr 23, 2014, 2:10 pm
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Originally Posted by DaveInLA
Are there now any advantages BB has over Serve?
BB still allows physical check writing and it has no monthly fee. For FTers, neither of those "advantages" really matter though since most will use electronic BP (not check writing) and most will load at least $500 to their Serve card, which waives the $1 monthly fee. Serve is the clear winner now IMO.

Last edited by bribro; Apr 23, 2014 at 3:25 pm
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Old Apr 23, 2014, 3:13 pm
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Originally Posted by cdancer20
So a couple of days ago I was in CVS doing some split payments for VGCs to get my $1 Isis. The cashier forgot to hit $1 and I assumed it wouldn't be a big deal since my Serve acct only had $70 or so on it wouldn't go through. I had forgotten though that I never set a limit to what they could pull my linked CC so the purchase went through.

So note to anyone that has linked their CC (or DC) as a backup source and plans to use the Serve for any split purchases. Change your limit. I didn't plan to use that credit card to buy gift cards that day.
hold up, you were doing $1 payments via ISIS for a $500 VGC? lol that cashier must have been annoyed doing atleast 50 separate transactions.

Originally Posted by lad2
I don't think that's right. There's no limit per load transaction. It might have something to do with the rumor WM register software update not allowing split tender/payment.
not sure if you're talking about kate, but yes there is a limit on the kiosks which dont allow split payments IME.

Originally Posted by bribro
Ditto. I'm still floating $25k in VRs. Just one week to go... At least I kept my 3 Serve cards open instead of switching to BB.
lol you can afford that bro, all day every day no problem
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Old Apr 23, 2014, 3:14 pm
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Originally Posted by bribro
Ditto. I'm still floating $25k in VRs. Just one week to go... At least I kept my 3 Serve cards open instead of switching to BB.
^ You got me beat! LOL. I only have $10k in VRs. I think more than the scare of having issues with pins (crossing my fingers not), it just hurts my insides to have to pay out that much money from my personal acct to the credit card bills. LOL.
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Old Apr 23, 2014, 3:16 pm
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Originally Posted by FTRox87
hold up, you were doing $1 payments via ISIS for a $500 VGC? lol that cashier must have been annoyed doing atleast 50 separate transactions.
LOL. I always look for patient cashiers. Sometimes I even explain to them why I'm doing it. Had a couple telling me that they need to get on it! One already had the Serve Isis on her phone. Note that you can only do a max of 7 splits.
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Old Apr 23, 2014, 3:21 pm
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Originally Posted by FTRox87
Originally Posted by lad2
I don't think that's right. There's no limit per load transaction. It might have something to do with the rumor WM register software update not allowing split tender/payment.
not sure if you're talking about kate, but yes there is a limit on the kiosks which dont allow split payments IME.
Let me clear that up for you. Slow down bro.
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Old Apr 23, 2014, 4:08 pm
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Originally Posted by cdancer20
Did you follow the steps in the wiki? You must sign up using the same information you used for BB but change your phone number. This will allow you to get past the registration screen into the "account pending review". Then you ask for the dept mentioned in the wiki and they can speed your process along. The front-line CSRs can't help you.
I can attest to trying to sign up on the app (changed phone to home per the wiki) and getting denied owing to an existing BB account (which was closed a week ago). I called both bluebird and serve for help but they can't do anything. The serve account security dept can't help either because they said the registration needs to at least be submitted/pending, but I'm flat out getting rejected.

Not sure what else to do! I may not be entering all the info exactly as Bluebird was, but I feel like I am!
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Old Apr 23, 2014, 4:17 pm
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Originally Posted by FTRox87
hold up, you were doing $1 payments via ISIS for a $500 VGC? lol that cashier must have been annoyed doing atleast 50 separate transactions.
Mad props to cdancer20 for this awesome idea... cdancer20 saved me $80 in activation fees for my VR's and VGC's.

At the end of March before CVS implemented the cash only policy, I bought 20 VR's over 2 days. The store manager (who already knew me) rang me up. After I explained to him about the ISIS promotion, he happily agreed to do the $1 split payments. As cdancer20 pointed out, there's a maximum of 7 split payments per transaction.

The store manager was awesome -- he set aside 10 VR's for me so I could purchase them the next day. When I came back the next day, as he was ringing me up, a line of customers started to form. I felt embarrassed. He had a cashier open up another register to help the other customers

At Harris Teeter where I purchased a VGC, the cashier was patient as she did 9 x $1 split payments. At the end, she gave me a high five.
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Old Apr 23, 2014, 4:33 pm
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Originally Posted by envoy245
Mad props to cdancer20 for this awesome idea... cdancer20 saved me $80 in activation fees for my VR's and VGC's.

At the end of March before CVS implemented the cash only policy, I bought 20 VR's over 2 days. The store manager (who already knew me) rang me up. After I explained to him about the ISIS promotion, he happily agreed to do the $1 split payments. As cdancer20 pointed out, there's a maximum of 7 split payments per transaction.

The store manager was awesome -- he set aside 10 VR's for me so I could purchase them the next day. When I came back the next day, as he was ringing me up, a line of customers started to form. I felt embarrassed. He had a cashier open up another register to help the other customers

I like buying 2 for $1 yogurts at the self serve at Meier, free yogurt is great.

At Harris Teeter where I purchased a VGC, the cashier was patient as she did 9 x $1 split payments. At the end, she gave me a high five.
I like doing 2 for $1 yogurts for free at Meier self check out.
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Old Apr 23, 2014, 4:37 pm
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Originally Posted by member7777
I like doing 2 for $1 yogurts for free at Meier self check out.
I have the Wells Fargo CC, which gives 20% CB per month (up to $100 per month). $200 cashback FTW
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Old Apr 23, 2014, 4:44 pm
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Reinstating Serve after closing

I have not seen this posted so I thought there might be someone with timing as bad as mine.

2 days ago I closed out my Serve account in anticipation of switching to Bluebird. The next morning I read that Serve was working with WM and switching was no longer desired.

I called Serve tonight expecting them to tell me tough beans, you already closed your account, wait 30 days or whatever. To my surprise the CSR reactivated my Serve account no problem.
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Old Apr 23, 2014, 5:07 pm
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Originally Posted by cdancer20
^ You got me beat! LOL. I only have $10k in VRs. I think more than the scare of having issues with pins (crossing my fingers not), it just hurts my insides to have to pay out that much money from my personal acct to the credit card bills. LOL.
Same here! I've got 15K and I'm just waiting for next month so that I can load my other BBs. WM isn't too convenient for me, I'd rather max out the load so I can close BB and open Serve on 5/5.
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Old Apr 23, 2014, 5:10 pm
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Originally Posted by wormtail
I have not seen this posted so I thought there might be someone with timing as bad as mine.

2 days ago I closed out my Serve account in anticipation of switching to Bluebird. The next morning I read that Serve was working with WM and switching was no longer desired.

I called Serve tonight expecting them to tell me tough beans, you already closed your account, wait 30 days or whatever. To my surprise the CSR reactivated my Serve account no problem.
If it's less than 30 days, then it's ok to close and reopen.
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