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MH370 Discussion and Speculation Thread
Mar 24, 2014, 8:28 am
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They haven't found any wreckage yet and because of the length of time since the crash even when they do they will have a very wide search area. Does anyone know what the sea bed topography is like in that area? Unless it's fairly flat it is going to be a difficult search.
Mar 24, 2014, 8:33 am
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But I'm wondering how long this might continue. In the event of a crash on land you can assume a specific end. Once the site has been cleared. The dead buried. There is some closure.
This could continue for quite some time. I guess Air France would have been similar. I wonder how long Air France continued to provide assistance to families on a day to day basis.
I would feel safe assuming so.
Mar 24, 2014, 8:39 am
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I'm sure this question has already been answered at some point in this thread, but:
If the plane ran out of fuel - does it do a straight down dive into the ocean, or more of a stable decent?
If the plane ran out of fuel - does it do a straight down dive into the ocean, or more of a stable decent?
Mar 24, 2014, 9:00 am
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Two things:
1. One does not declare 239 people dead without a single physical remain. Even if they are sure MH370 ended in the Indian Ocean they may still wish to presume the aircraft and passengers missing until at least one piece of physical evidence is found.
2. Malaysian PM did not say search would be continued. I am not saying they won't continue but he did not say they would.
Two things:
1. One does not declare 239 people dead without a single physical remain. Even if they are sure MH370 ended in the Indian Ocean they may still wish to presume the aircraft and passengers missing until at least one piece of physical evidence is found.
2. Malaysian PM did not say search would be continued. I am not saying they won't continue but he did not say they would.
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Mar 24, 2014, 9:13 am
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Two things:
1. One does not declare 239 people dead without a single physical remain. Even if they are sure MH370 ended in the Indian Ocean they may still wish to presume the aircraft and passengers missing until at least one piece of physical evidence is found.
2. Malaysian PM did not say search would be continued. I am not saying they won't continue but he did not say they would.
1. One does not declare 239 people dead without a single physical remain. Even if they are sure MH370 ended in the Indian Ocean they may still wish to presume the aircraft and passengers missing until at least one piece of physical evidence is found.
2. Malaysian PM did not say search would be continued. I am not saying they won't continue but he did not say they would.
2. Isn't it obvious that search will continue, as no sign of wreckage has been found so far?
Mar 24, 2014, 9:14 am
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The text message preceding the statement did declare them lost.
Mar 24, 2014, 9:26 am
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Winter is setting in Search will be hard. I'm glad they ruled out the northern arc. I really want to know more about tge analysis that allowed Inmarsat to make that conclusion.
Mar 24, 2014, 9:27 am
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They said it was the Doppler and how the signal was impacted and they were able to tell it was coming from the southern arc and not northern.
Mar 24, 2014, 9:30 am
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Mar 24, 2014, 9:33 am
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MH's statement is their own. I was referring to the PM's update. It is also a bit inconsistent that PM made sure not to assume the faith of the passengers while at the same MH texted their relatives everyone on board died.
Officials may also wish to explain (hopefully on the next conference) how chartering to Perth would help all those relatives.
Officials may also wish to explain (hopefully on the next conference) how chartering to Perth would help all those relatives.
Mar 24, 2014, 9:33 am
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Two things:
1. One does not declare 239 people dead without a single physical remain. Even if they are sure MH370 ended in the Indian Ocean they may still wish to presume the aircraft and passengers missing until at least one piece of physical evidence is found.
2. Malaysian PM did not say search would be continued. I am not saying they won't continue but he did not say they would.
1. One does not declare 239 people dead without a single physical remain. Even if they are sure MH370 ended in the Indian Ocean they may still wish to presume the aircraft and passengers missing until at least one piece of physical evidence is found.
2. Malaysian PM did not say search would be continued. I am not saying they won't continue but he did not say they would.
2. Search for location of where plane went down is paramount because they need to find the Blackbox. Its really not up to the PM whether the search will continue as the search currently is being held by the Australians.
Mar 24, 2014, 9:40 am
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Having been involved in something similar myself (though, fortunately, not as a relative), I recall that many relatives felt better and felt a sense of closure if they had an opportunity to visit either the nearest point on land to the incident, or the presumed location of the incident at sea. Indeed, for some relatives, closure was not possible without such a journey. So while a visit may not be helpful from the point of view of the investigation, it will nonetheless help some people profoundly from a psychological standpoint. And that is a factor that is taken quite seriously by those involved.