Mar 16, 2014, 5:32 am
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This is ARCHIVE WEEK #1 (8 - 14 March UTC) of older posts from the original thread, MH 370 KUL-PEK Missing: now Search and Recovery [PLEASE SEE WIKI].
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MH 370 KUL-PEK Missing: 8 - 14 Mar 2014 UTC - ARCHIVE WEEK #1
Mar 9, 2014, 3:57 pm
#1546
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Yeah, that seems really absurd to me that they would be searching West of KUL and not where the last radar contact/ADS-B signal was seen......
Mar 9, 2014, 3:58 pm
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They would have just reached top of climb. I'd think they'd be into the service by then but not yet done. While I was thinking of cockpit crew only, the cabin crew would have access to oxygen through the extra mask at each seat bank until they could get to a walk-around oxygen bottle.
Mar 9, 2014, 4:03 pm
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However the whole front section survived in 1 piece and other large parts fell intact to the ground.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Am_Flight_103
interestingly it says "eight seconds after the explosion, the wreckage had a 1-nautical-mile (1.9 km) spread"
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Mar 9, 2014, 4:06 pm
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Mar 9, 2014, 4:09 pm
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Look at the wreckage of PanAm 103. A bomb lead to sudden decompression and all were killed.
However the whole front section survived in 1 piece and other large parts fell intact to the ground.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pa...ember_1988.jpg
interestingly it says "eight seconds after the explosion, the wreckage had a 1-nautical-mile (1.9 km) spread"
However the whole front section survived in 1 piece and other large parts fell intact to the ground.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pa...ember_1988.jpg
interestingly it says "eight seconds after the explosion, the wreckage had a 1-nautical-mile (1.9 km) spread"
Mar 9, 2014, 4:09 pm
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Maybe they're expanding the search area since they haven't found anything conclusive (except maybe the floating debris) near the last contact area yet in close to 2 days. The picture of the floating debris suspected to be an aircraft part posted a few posts up should be verified at daybreak (a few more hours).
Mar 9, 2014, 4:11 pm
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They would have just reached top of climb. I'd think they'd be into the service by then but not yet done. While I was thinking of cockpit crew only, the cabin crew would have access to oxygen through the extra mask at each seat bank until they could get to a walk-around oxygen bottle.
Mar 9, 2014, 4:12 pm
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They would have just reached top of climb. I'd think they'd be into the service by then but not yet done. While I was thinking of cockpit crew only, the cabin crew would have access to oxygen through the extra mask at each seat bank until they could get to a walk-around oxygen bottle.
Mar 9, 2014, 4:13 pm
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But... this occurred over open ocean, as much as we can determine, and there have been no witnesses to step forward and cal the authorities over falling debris. This is more similar to AF447, where it was lost over open sea and debris spotting and recovery were more difficult.
Mar 9, 2014, 4:15 pm
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another passport anomaly
taken from avherald:
According to the states run Chinese news agency Xinhua Chinese police established that one of the Chinese passengers listed on the manifest never left China, is still at home and in possession of his passport, therefore was not on the accident flight. The passenger's passport had not been lost or stolen, the numbers on his passport and the passport number noted on the manifest are identical however.
Mar 9, 2014, 4:17 pm
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Maybe they're expanding the search area since they haven't found anything conclusive (except maybe the floating debris) near the last contact area yet in close to 2 days. The picture of the floating debris suspected to be an aircraft part posted a few posts up should be verified at daybreak (a few more hours).
I assume MAS authorities feel the need to consider a hijacking a viable option.
This is a very big change in the search, not just expanding the current radius. I presume they have some very valid concerns or information we are not yet privy to, to justify stretching their resources over this massive additional area.
Things that make you go hmmmmmm
Mar 9, 2014, 4:17 pm
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For the past two days, they've been searching near where radar contact was lost. Some data apparently surfaced to suggest the plane may have continued in flight after contact was lost, hence some resources have been sent to search other regions (in addition to the primary search area).
Mar 9, 2014, 4:18 pm
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Maybe they're expanding the search area since they haven't found anything conclusive (except maybe the floating debris) near the last contact area yet in close to 2 days. The picture of the floating debris suspected to be an aircraft part posted a few posts up should be verified at daybreak (a few more hours).
Ho Chi Minh City / ne Saigon time is 0517 / 5:17 AM /// UTC / GMT / Zulu 22:17
Sunrise at 6:03 AM in direction 94 East East
Sunset at 6:04 PM in direction 266 West West
For the past two days, they've been searching near where radar contact was lost. Some data apparently surfaced to suggest the plane may have continued in flight after contact was lost, hence some resources have been sent to search other regions (in addition to the primary search area).
Mar 9, 2014, 4:24 pm
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Look at the wreckage of PanAm 103. A bomb lead to sudden decompression and all were killed.
However the whole front section survived in 1 piece and other large parts fell intact to the ground.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Am_Flight_103
interestingly it says "eight seconds after the explosion, the wreckage had a 1-nautical-mile (1.9 km) spread"
However the whole front section survived in 1 piece and other large parts fell intact to the ground.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Am_Flight_103
interestingly it says "eight seconds after the explosion, the wreckage had a 1-nautical-mile (1.9 km) spread"
But... this occurred over open ocean, as much as we can determine, and there have been no witnesses to step forward and cal the authorities over falling debris. This is more similar to AF447, where it was lost over open sea and debris spotting and recovery were more difficult.
Mar 9, 2014, 4:25 pm
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For the past two days, they've been searching near where radar contact was lost. Some data apparently surfaced to suggest the plane may have continued in flight after contact was lost, hence some resources have been sent to search other regions (in addition to the primary search area).