Furious, being walked by Cheval Blanc Randheli (Maldives)
#196
Join Date: Jan 2009
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Lets face it, someone who books a room in the maldives in the low season, usually cant afford said hotel in the high season. (CBR costs 3x in high compared to low season)
This is not an important guest.
Since Hotels during that time in the maldives are far from full, any Hotel would be god damn stupid to not accept a buyout offer at that time.
This is not an important guest.
Since Hotels during that time in the maldives are far from full, any Hotel would be god damn stupid to not accept a buyout offer at that time.
Hotels value ALL revenue when low/less than full occupancy.
But I am fundamentally in agreement with your point that the hotel had every right to cancel for buyout. While it was initially not handled as well as it could have been, I think what has been offered is extremely generous. I personally would be jumping with joy and thinking of what kind of fabulous excursion I could take, or how I could add more time at one of these properties, with the money saved in this case as a result of cancellation and comped alternative accommodation.
FWIW, as much as I like Gathy design, I am not planning to go to CBR anytime soon. I am more of a Soneva/Gili Lankanfushi kind of person, or Four Seasons, etc... As a fan of Jean-Michel Gathy's designs, I do still have a stay in a Grand overwater villa at OO RR on my bucket list, despite the fact that the "crowd" at that resort doesn't necessarily suit me. I'll go in the low season during a good weather period and keep to myself.
#197
Join Date: Jun 2013
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Completely agree in general, but its a known fact that the best Weather in the Maldives is from dec/Jan till March/April. Crowds are never an issue in the maldives and its defintaley not a place where you want 1 week of rain... (which can easily happen during the shoulder/low season).
Of course you can have perfect weather in the low seasons, but chances of that are much lower.
Of course you can have perfect weather in the low seasons, but chances of that are much lower.
I don't subscribe to the logic that if you go during low season you can't afford peak season and I use my own travel habits as evidence of that. Our travel plans are predominantly dictated by more work schedule. That said we do have specific holidays we always do at the same time of year (August = Cote d'Azur).
Despite all the hassle the OP had I would still plan a stay at CBR.
#198
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 152
Not true re "not important". I am not otherwise occupied, so I often do target low/shoulder season for better rates and upgrades, as well as lower occupancy. And I often stay considerably longer than average and have significant F&B, spa, and activity/excursion spend.
Hotels value ALL revenue when low/less than full occupancy.
But I am fundamentally in agreement with your point that the hotel had every right to cancel for buyout. While it was initially not handled as well as it could have been, I think what has been offered is extremely generous. I personally would be jumping with joy and thinking of what kind of fabulous excursion I could take, or how I could add more time at one of these properties, with the money saved in this case as a result of cancellation and comped alternative accommodation.
FWIW, as much as I like Gathy design, I am not planning to go to CBR anytime soon. I am more of a Soneva/Gili Lankanfushi kind of person, or Four Seasons, etc... As a fan of Jean-Michel Gathy's designs, I do still have a stay in a Grand overwater villa at OO RR on my bucket list, despite the fact that the "crowd" at that resort doesn't necessarily suit me. I'll go in the low season during a good weather period and keep to myself.
Hotels value ALL revenue when low/less than full occupancy.
But I am fundamentally in agreement with your point that the hotel had every right to cancel for buyout. While it was initially not handled as well as it could have been, I think what has been offered is extremely generous. I personally would be jumping with joy and thinking of what kind of fabulous excursion I could take, or how I could add more time at one of these properties, with the money saved in this case as a result of cancellation and comped alternative accommodation.
FWIW, as much as I like Gathy design, I am not planning to go to CBR anytime soon. I am more of a Soneva/Gili Lankanfushi kind of person, or Four Seasons, etc... As a fan of Jean-Michel Gathy's designs, I do still have a stay in a Grand overwater villa at OO RR on my bucket list, despite the fact that the "crowd" at that resort doesn't necessarily suit me. I'll go in the low season during a good weather period and keep to myself.
Not worth the money they ask. Would always opt for a beach villa at OO.
#199
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Grand beach Villas (one and two bedrooms) really are tempting. They have those GORGEOUS Gathy designed private pools...
If I targeted a low occupancy period with good weather, maybe I could have my choice of Grand water or Grand beach upon arrival. Or split the stay.
#200
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Lets face it, someone who books a room in the maldives in the low season, usually cant afford said hotel in the high season. (CBR costs 3x in high compared to low season)
This is not an important guest.
Since Hotels during that time in the maldives are far from full, any Hotel would be god damn stupid to not accept a buyout offer at that time.
This is not an important guest.
Since Hotels during that time in the maldives are far from full, any Hotel would be god damn stupid to not accept a buyout offer at that time.
#202
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: BKK
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Exactly. And if someone isn't constrained by children's school holidays etc... it makes absolutely perfect sense to NOT go when full occupancy - including all of the children etc...(don't get me wrong I do love kids), and lack of upgrade availability - when you can have a BETTER experience for less if you choose different dates.
#203
Join Date: Jan 2014
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I have kids who have to attend school so if we want a 2 weeks holiday in Maldives, there really aren't much options besides EU Summer and Christmas/NYE.
We had lovely weather by the way, apart from 2 days with a bit of rain.
#204
Join Date: Jan 2006
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Really, even "Grand" i.e. top overwaters? Layout in smaller clusters on jetties in around the island seem to be relatively low density. (Even though virtually everything is high density in Maldives, save perhaps FS private island etc...)
Grand beach Villas (one and two bedrooms) really are tempting. They have those GORGEOUS Gathy designed private pools...
If I targeted a low occupancy period with good weather, maybe I could have my choice of Grand water or Grand beach upon arrival. Or split the stay.
Grand beach Villas (one and two bedrooms) really are tempting. They have those GORGEOUS Gathy designed private pools...
If I targeted a low occupancy period with good weather, maybe I could have my choice of Grand water or Grand beach upon arrival. Or split the stay.
There are 1 or 2 which really face the sea and are more private, the rest not so and too expensive for what they offer anyhow.
#205
Join Date: Jun 2013
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We've never stayed in any category of Water Villa at O&O. However, we've stayed in a Beach Villa with a Pool and a Grand Beach Villa and they're both excellent! The Grand Beach Villa is especially nice given the oversized pool, private golf buggy and day bed outside. I actually think the novelty of a Water Villa wears off very quickly. We've tried them twice at other Maldives resorts and realise we definitely prefer a Beach Villa - especially a Gathy designed one.
#206
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We've never stayed in any category of Water Villa at O&O. However, we've stayed in a Beach Villa with a Pool and a Grand Beach Villa and they're both excellent! The Grand Beach Villa is especially nice given the oversized pool, private golf buggy and day bed outside. I actually think the novelty of a Water Villa wears off very quickly. We've tried them twice at other Maldives resorts and realise we definitely prefer a Beach Villa - especially a Gathy designed one.
Now if you're staying in a water villa, that means going all the way to the resort's main beach...
#207
Join Date: Jun 2013
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Same here - I can see why people want to do it as a 'once in a lifetime' kind of thing, but after the novelty has worn off after a couple of hours after entering the room, all you really want is a nice private beach on which to relax!
Now if you're staying in a water villa, that means going all the way to the resort's main beach...
Now if you're staying in a water villa, that means going all the way to the resort's main beach...
#209
Join Date: Jun 2013
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Which could of course mean rain overnight.... but I take your point the weather is not so stable in September.
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FS washington displaced guests for saudi king, reported in nypost, dailymail, etc >
FS LG 2BR overwaters do look nice, as do some others
coco prive is actually 'affordable'
was from 8K, island, up to 6BR
FS island includes yacht in rate
havent seen low season rate
not sure if cheval incl yacht
Guests who had booked to stay at the Four Seasons during the royal visit have apparently been moved to other luxury hotels in town. A call to the Four Seasons confirmed the hotel is sold out Thursday, Friday and Saturday nights.
coco prive is actually 'affordable'
was from 8K, island, up to 6BR
FS island includes yacht in rate
havent seen low season rate
not sure if cheval incl yacht
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