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Old Sep 11, 2014, 11:07 am
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Current MCT to/from LH at MUC:

Code:
MUC-MUC      FROM          -             TO             D/D  D/I  I/D  I/I
CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM
LH                BUS      -                            0100 0100 0100 0100
LH                         -                  BUS       0100 0100 0100 0100
LH                     2   -                       2    0040 0040 0040 0040
LH                BUS  2   -                       2    0100 0100 0100 0100
                  BUS      -LH                          0100 0100 0100 0100
                           -LH                BUS       0100 0100 0100 0100
                       2   -LH                     2    0040 0040 0040 0040
                       2   -LH                BUS  2    0100 0100 0100 0100
                       1   -LH                BUS  2    0130 ---- 0130 ----
             SC        2   -LH           AL        2    ---- ---- ---- 0050
             SC        2   -LH           BG        2    ---- ---- ---- 0050
             SC        2   -LH           CY        2    ---- ---- ---- 0050
             SC        2   -LH           EG        2    ---- ---- ---- 0050
             SC        2   -LH           GB        2    ---- ---- ---- 0050
             SC        2   -LH           GE        2    ---- ---- ---- 0050
             SC        2   -LH           IE        2    ---- ---- ---- 0050
             SC        2   -LH           ME        2    ---- ---- ---- 0050
             SC        2   -LH           RO        2    ---- ---- ---- 0050
             SC        2   -LH           RS        2    ---- ---- ---- 0050
             SC        2   -LH           TN        2    ---- ---- ---- 0050
             SC        2   -LH           TR        2    ---- ---- ---- 0050
             SC        2   -LH 0400-0799           2    ---- ---- ---- 0050
LH                BUS      -LH                          0100 0100 0100 0100
LH                         -LH                BUS       0100 0100 0100 0100
LH                BUS  2   -LH                     2    0100 0100 0100 0100
LH                     2   -LH                BUS  2    0100 0100 0100 0100
LH           AL        2   -LH           SC        2    ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH           BG        2   -LH           SC        2    ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH           CY        2   -LH           SC        2    ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH           EG        2   -LH           SC        2    ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH           GB        2   -LH           SC        2    ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH           GE        2   -LH           SC        2    ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH           IE        2   -LH           SC        2    ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH           ME        2   -LH           SC        2    ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH           RO        2   -LH           SC        2    ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH           RS        2   -LH           SC        2    ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH           TN        2   -LH           SC        2    ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH           TR        2   -LH           SC        2    ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH                BUS  2   -LH           IL        2    ---- 0100 ---- ----
LH                BUS  2   -LH           IN        2    ---- 0100 ---- ----
LH                BUS  2   -LH           US        2    ---- 0100 ---- ----
LH           SC        2   -LH           AL        2    ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH           SC        2   -LH           BG        2    ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH           SC        2   -LH           CY        2    ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH           SC        2   -LH           EG        2    ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH           SC        2   -LH           GB        2    ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH           SC        2   -LH           GE        2    ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH           SC        2   -LH           IE        2    ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH           SC        2   -LH           ME        2    ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH           SC        2   -LH           RO        2    ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH           SC        2   -LH           RS        2    ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH           SC        2   -LH           TN        2    ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH           SC        2   -LH           TR        2    ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH 0400-0799           2   -LH           SC        2    ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH           SC        2   -LH 0400-0799           2    ---- 0050 ---- 0050     
LH 9439-9439           2  Y-LH                     2    ---- ---- 0045 ----     
LH 9469-9469           2  Y-LH                     2    ---- ---- 0045 ----     
LH                       XQ-LH                          ---- ---- 0130 0130     
                           -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130     
                       2   -LH                     2 A3 ---- ---- ---- 0045     
                       1   -LH                     1 EW 0035 0050 0100 0100     
                       2   -LH                     1 EW 0100 0130 0130 0130     
                       1   -LH                     2 EW 0100 0130 0130 0130     
                       2   -LH                     2 EW 0035 0050 0100 0100     
LH                         -LH                       XQ ---- ---- ---- 0130     
LH                     2   -LH                     2 EW ---- 0040 ---- ----     
LH                     2   -LH                     2 UA ---- ---- ---- 0040     
LH                     2 AC-LH                     2 LG ---- ---- ---- 0200
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Old Nov 29, 2023, 6:47 am
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Quick Q re First Class Terminal access @ FRA when flying F from MUC....

If my same ticket itinerary is FRA - MUC (LH J class) - LAX (LH F class) will I be able to access the FCT in FRA as well as the F lounge in MUC?

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Old Nov 29, 2023, 7:02 am
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Originally Posted by 108912
Quick Q re First Class Terminal access @ FRA when flying F from MUC....

If my same ticket itinerary is FRA - MUC (LH J class) - LAX (LH F class) will I be able to access the FCT in FRA as well as the F lounge in MUC?

Thx
Yes, you will have FCT access in FRA.
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Old Dec 21, 2023, 7:06 am
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Will any of the lounges be closed over the next few days? Will SEN Cafe be open as usual Mon-Fri despite the holidays?
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Old Dec 21, 2023, 11:55 pm
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UA gives me these 2 itineraries, one connecting at MUC, one connecting at FRA, with 1hr and 1hr20m connection time to make the flight to EWR. We have another US domestic flight after that but there are 2+hr layover, I hope would be enough with GE.

Can the knowledgeable folks here tell me whether the connection time is enough to make the US bound flight?

VIE-MUC MUC-EWR
1:45pm-2:45pm, 3:45pm-6:45pm

VIE-FRA FR-EWR
10:30am-12:00pm 1:20pm-3:40pm

We would prefer the one FRA-EWR because it gets us home almost 3 hours earlier.
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Old Dec 22, 2023, 12:27 am
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While I'd usually advise picking a 1hr connection in MUC over a 1hr20min connection in FRA, both are entirely doable. And if the FRA gets you home 3hrs earlier, I'd pick that one.
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Old Dec 22, 2023, 1:38 am
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Both are doable but there is no margin for error. On a normal day the connection is easily done but just bad weather can cause already issues. Another issue with FRA is that you never know if your flight arrives on a bus gate and if you need to take scenic drive across the tarmac to the building. In such a case additional things can go wrong (stairs not ready, bus not there, long drive). That's why I would not exclude the MUC itinerary completely where only very very few flights end up on a remote stand.
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Old Dec 22, 2023, 7:39 am
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MUC is way better to connect at than FRA. Would choose MUC any day over FRA where you may need to walk a long distance.
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Old Dec 22, 2023, 8:14 am
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Can we assume that your inbound leg is on LH and your outbound is on UA? That could be a bit of a walk but nothing like FRA would be.
Last year, our UA flight from IAH to BUD started with a 1:15 connection in MUC. A later schedule change made it 55 minutes. Still doable. A thunderstorm at IAH delayed departure by 30 minutes but we landed MUC about 15 late. It was about a 15 minute walk to the LH gate. Still had time to hit the head. Arrived at the gate just as boarding began.
granted, we were in Biz class and seated near the exit door. That put us among the first to hit Passport control so no queue there yet. If you were in the back of the plane and among the last ones off, your timing would be different.

Regardless, it’s unlikely that the OP is going to be on a Jumbo jet so deplaning at the connecting airport shouldn’t take too long.
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Old Dec 22, 2023, 9:53 pm
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Originally Posted by Happy
UA gives me these 2 itineraries, one connecting at MUC, one connecting at FRA, with 1hr and 1hr20m connection time to make the flight to EWR. We have another US domestic flight after that but there are 2+hr layover, I hope would be enough with GE.

Can the knowledgeable folks here tell me whether the connection time is enough to make the US bound flight?

VIE-MUC MUC-EWR
1:45pm-2:45pm, 3:45pm-6:45pm

VIE-FRA FR-EWR
10:30am-12:00pm 1:20pm-3:40pm

We would prefer the one FRA-EWR because it gets us home almost 3 hours earlier.
Both very doable unless sh*t hits the fan, which has been a little to often lately. But in that case you're toast anyway. I'd take the FRA one. VIE tends to arrive into A, and US departures are from Z just above. It also gives you a nice recovery strategy as there's at least a later UA FRA-IAD that might still get your to your destination with an extra connection.

But I'd maybe also try harder to UA to put you on OS VIE-EWR assuming this was something they caused.
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Old Dec 24, 2023, 9:54 am
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Originally Posted by hugolover
Will any of the lounges be closed over the next few days? Will SEN Cafe be open as usual Mon-Fri despite the holidays?
The Senator Café is closed until January 6, 2024 per the LH website.
Since the 6th is a Saturday, I assume that it would reopen on the 8th and remain closed on the 7th as well.
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Old Jan 10, 2024, 5:35 am
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LH updated the MCT table for MUC... the min is now 50 minutes:


Code:
MUC-MUC      FROM          -             TO             D/D  D/I  I/D  I/I
CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM
LH                BUS      -                            0100 0100 0100 0100
LH                         -                  BUS       0100 0100 0100 0100
LH                     2   -                       2    0040 0040 0040 0040
LH                BUS  2   -                       2    0100 0100 0100 0100
                  BUS      -LH                          0100 0100 0100 0100
                           -LH                BUS       0100 0100 0100 0100
                       2   -LH                     2    0040 0040 0040 0040
                       2   -LH                BUS  2    0100 0100 0100 0100
                       1   -LH                BUS  2    0130 ---- 0130 ----
             SC        2   -LH           AL        2    ---- ---- ---- 0050
             SC        2   -LH           BG        2    ---- ---- ---- 0050
             SC        2   -LH           CY        2    ---- ---- ---- 0050
             SC        2   -LH           EG        2    ---- ---- ---- 0050
             SC        2   -LH           GB        2    ---- ---- ---- 0050
             SC        2   -LH           GE        2    ---- ---- ---- 0050
             SC        2   -LH           IE        2    ---- ---- ---- 0050
             SC        2   -LH           ME        2    ---- ---- ---- 0050
             SC        2   -LH           RO        2    ---- ---- ---- 0050
             SC        2   -LH           RS        2    ---- ---- ---- 0050
             SC        2   -LH           TN        2    ---- ---- ---- 0050
             SC        2   -LH           TR        2    ---- ---- ---- 0050
             SC        2   -LH 0400-0799           2    ---- ---- ---- 0050
LH                BUS      -LH                          0100 0100 0100 0100
LH                         -LH                BUS       0100 0100 0100 0100
LH                BUS  2   -LH                     2    0100 0100 0100 0100
LH                     2   -LH                BUS  2    0100 0100 0100 0100
LH           AL        2   -LH           SC        2    ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH           BG        2   -LH           SC        2    ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH           CY        2   -LH           SC        2    ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH           EG        2   -LH           SC        2    ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH           GB        2   -LH           SC        2    ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH           GE        2   -LH           SC        2    ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH           IE        2   -LH           SC        2    ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH           ME        2   -LH           SC        2    ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH           RO        2   -LH           SC        2    ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH           RS        2   -LH           SC        2    ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH           TN        2   -LH           SC        2    ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH           TR        2   -LH           SC        2    ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH                BUS  2   -LH           IL        2    ---- 0100 ---- ----
LH                BUS  2   -LH           IN        2    ---- 0100 ---- ----
LH                BUS  2   -LH           US        2    ---- 0100 ---- ----
LH           SC        2   -LH           AL        2    ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH           SC        2   -LH           BG        2    ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH           SC        2   -LH           CY        2    ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH           SC        2   -LH           EG        2    ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH           SC        2   -LH           GB        2    ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH           SC        2   -LH           GE        2    ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH           SC        2   -LH           IE        2    ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH           SC        2   -LH           ME        2    ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH           SC        2   -LH           RO        2    ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH           SC        2   -LH           RS        2    ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH           SC        2   -LH           TN        2    ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH           SC        2   -LH           TR        2    ---- 0050 ---- ----
LH 0400-0799           2   -LH           SC        2    ---- ---- 0050 0050
LH           SC        2   -LH 0400-0799           2    ---- 0050 ---- 0050     
LH 9439-9439           2  Y-LH                     2    ---- ---- 0045 ----     
LH 9469-9469           2  Y-LH                     2    ---- ---- 0045 ----     
LH                       XQ-LH                          ---- ---- 0130 0130     
                           -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130     
                       2   -LH                     2 A3 ---- ---- ---- 0045     
                       1   -LH                     1 EW 0035 0050 0100 0100     
                       2   -LH                     1 EW 0100 0130 0130 0130     
                       1   -LH                     2 EW 0100 0130 0130 0130     
                       2   -LH                     2 EW 0035 0050 0100 0100     
LH                         -LH                       XQ ---- ---- ---- 0130     
LH                     2   -LH                     2 EW ---- 0040 ---- ----     
LH                     2   -LH                     2 UA ---- ---- ---- 0040     
LH                     2 AC-LH                     2 LG ---- ---- ---- 0200

The PTS to T2S will be switched to bus service from Jan 15 to Feb 24 due to work on the system. Busses for the K and L gates will depart from G61/62 and H25 respectively.
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Old Jan 10, 2024, 7:19 am
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So 50min MCT is only during Jan 15 to Feb 24, or perm?
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Old Jan 10, 2024, 9:27 am
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How is the baggage handling situation at MUC these days? Has it improved since the chaos from a few months ago?
My wife and I are planning a POZ-MUC-LHR r/t in June 2024 with LH (I know it is still some time to go) with checked baggage (cannot do HBO on this trip). It will be our first time transiting through MUC.
Some flights I found have MCTs between 1.35 - 3 hours in some connections so I am considering those flights as in theory it should provide enough time for us and our baggage to transfer between flights (in normal circumstances).
Also, if not flying in C, what are the best "non-status/Priority Pass" lounges at MUC?
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Old Jan 10, 2024, 9:47 am
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There are no PP lounges in MUC T2. You have to have M&M FTL, *G or Amex Platinum. 1:35 is plenty enough in MUC
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Old Jan 13, 2024, 5:40 am
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Sitting now in FMO. I was supposed to fly FMO-MUC-ZRH-PRN. Due to shortage of staff in MUC for de-icing, MUC-FMO is delayed by two hours (though all other flights that were supposed to depart between 10:50 and 11:30 left more or less on time). Now I will be landing in MUC 10 minutes after MUC-ZRH will have departed. HON line says that I will make it to my MUC-ZRH flight, as they will send a message to MUC team to hold the plane 🤭🤭 (right… I will believe it when I see it). HON team in ZRH just called me and said that they have protected me on WK the next day and on OS via VIE in case I wished to fly from MUC rather than from ZRH.

Let’s see what this will end up into. I am sure that luggage won’t make it.
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